Electivire (QC 2/3)

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Overview
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Electivire is a Pokemon with many appealing qualities that is let down by a large number of glaring flaws. For one thing, despite its ability to hit 13 of the 18 types for super effective damage, its reliance on low Base Power moves means it struggles to do significant damage to the opposing team. Electivire also suffers from having only an average Speed stat for an offensive Pokemon, leaving it outpaced by faster Pokemon and makes it inferior to other Electric-types, such as Jolteon and Heliolisk. Its lack of sufficient power or speed is worsened by its frailty, which makes Electivire relatively easy to KO. This is especially the case since Electivire wears itself down very quickly with Life Orb and Wild Charge recoil. What Electivire can do is pressure teams with its great coverage with entry hazard support, and also be able to switch into Electric-types somewhat effectively thanks to Motor Drive. However, this is not enough to justify Electivire's use, as all these roles are played by much better RU Pokemon. Always consider your other options before using Electivire. There are many.

Mixed Attacker
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name: Mixed Attacker
move 1: Wild Charge
move 2: Ice Punch
move 3: Flamethrower
move 4: Earthquake
ability: Motor Drive
item: Life Orb
evs: 248 Atk / 36 SpA / 224 Spe
nature: Naive

Moves
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Wild Charge serves as Electivire's best and most reliable Electric-type STAB move that packs a decent amount of power, which is preferred as Electivire is primarily a physical attacker. Ice Punch provides good coverage with Wild Charge, allowing Electivire to hit Grass- and Dragon-types such as Amoonguss, Virizion, and Druddigon. Flamethrower is used mainly to hit some common Pokemon who lack special bulk, such as Tangrowth and Doublade, for decent damage, while also hitting Escavalier. Earthquake is used to hit Jolteon and Heliolisk for super effective damage, which is especially useful since Electivire should aim to switch in on such Pokemon. Hidden Power Grass, however, is a viable alternative if Rhyperior poses a problem to your team, as it can heavily dent Rhyperior.

Set Details
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The EV spread above gives Electivire enough power to OHKO Tangrowth without Assault Vest after entry hazards while providing just enough Speed to outspeed Moltres. A Naive nature is the best nature to use on Electivire, as it does not cut into its offensive stats and gives it more Speed. A Life Orb is chosen to give Electivire extra power to be able to deal moderately significant damage. An Expert Belt could be used, however, to prevent Electivire from wearing itself down with constant recoil and still make use if its incredible coverage, however, this causes Electivire to lose significant damage output against neutral targets.

Usage Tips
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Electivire mainly attempts to be used as a wallbreaker and sweeper that uses its incredible coverage to attempt to break down walls and sweep teams, but does not do it very well due to its lack of sufficient power and speed. Electivire should try to come in on Electric-types such as Jolteon and Heliolisk to obtain a Speed boost to attempt to sweep. Even if Electivire cannot OHKO much of the tier, it can function as a wallbreaker and sweeper if given immense support. However, one must not use Electivire under any circumstances, as the amount of effort needed to be able to use Electivire effectively is not worthwhile.

Team Options
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Electivire requires entry hazards, such as Spikes, Stealth Rock, and Sticky Web to be even moderately successful at sweeping. A Pokemon that can successfully attract Jolteon and Heliolisk, such as a Water-type, could be useful for Electivire to attempt to obtain a speed boost and attempt to sweep. Wallbreakers such as Delphox and Druddigon could be useful to aid Electivire in its goal of breaking down walls. Let's face it though; you really shouldn't be trying to support Electivire in the first place.

Other Options
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Electivire has access to Cross Chop if you are looking for a way to hit Normal-types such as Miltank hard, but it provides no real notable coverage that Earthquake can't. Electivire also has Meditate to be able to boost its physical attack to make up for its lack of power, but it is too frail to boost effectively. Electivire also has a couple of other attacks such as Focus Punch, which can be used in tandem with Substitute to hit Pokemon such as Cobalion hard. Electivire also has access to Fire Punch and Focus Blast as alternative coverage options. Unfortunately, Electivire's use is already extremely limited as it is, and using any of these coverage options will only further limit its utility.

Checks and Counters
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**Ground-types** Rhyperior can take on anything Electivire can muster and retaliate with Earthquake. Dugtrio can also revenge kill Electivire, and Arena Trap prevents Electivire from escaping.

**Revenge Killers** Electivire is quite easy to revenge kill, so anything that is faster that also hits hard, such as Cinccino, Delphox, and Virizion, can hit it before it can retaliate. Priority such as Zoroark's Sucker Punch works as well, and Mega Banette is also effective with priority Will-O-Wisp to cripple Electivire for the remainder of the match.

**Physically Bulky Pokemon** This includes, but is not limited to, Cofagrigus, Hitmontop, and Bronzong. These Pokemon can take on repeated assaults from Electivire and proceed to wear it down. Cofagrigus can also burn Electivire with Will-O-Wisp to render it useless.
 
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Written in a very negative and sarcastic way, throughout literally all of the analysis, to the point where it is not informative and just annoying.

Eg,
"can't KO anything," "can't KO them," ... And then when it actually can KO something (Jolteon), you simply write "hits Jolteon." It does more than hit, my friend!
Hazards like Spikes, SR, and Sticky Web are needed for Electivire to be even remotely successful at sweeping or wallbreaking
LO is needed for Electivire to be anything useful -- this statement means nothing to anyone
mediocre sweeper
mediocre wallbreaker
failure of an offensive pokemon


Maybe you don't like Electivire and maybe it isn't the best Pokemon to be using in this niche in this tier (or anything above), but there is no need to knock it this strongly. You're treating it like it's the WORST Pokemon in the world. Electivire can be useful in certain situations and I've seen him used well.

Maybe they should get someone else to write this, take a look at the review for other generally not-so-great Pokemon, and re-evaluate whether or not Electivire deserves to be spoken about this way.

Sidenote, why is a mixed set the only viable set? I've seen Scarf sets with Jolly run well, and Electivire has plenty of options. Any hesitation on my part about mentioning Volt Switch was removed when you write about Hidden Power Grass--- they should both be included. Especially on a Choice Set.

And, your last 3 counters PRETTY MUCH are counters for every single pokemon there is that doesn't have Magic Guard and isn't named Deoxys S. Maybe be more specific? Pokemon (like x, y, z) who outspeed Electivire will cause problems because they can OHKO with their powerful super-effective coverage moves, etc... Come on man.
 
Written in a very negative and sarcastic way, throughout literally all of the analysis, to the point where it is not informative and just annoying.

Eg,
"can't KO anything," "can't KO them," ... And then when it actually can KO something (Jolteon), you simply write "hits Jolteon." It does more than hit, my friend!
Hazards like Spikes, SR, and Sticky Web are needed for Electivire to be even remotely successful at sweeping or wallbreaking
LO is needed for Electivire to be anything useful -- this statement means nothing to anyone
mediocre sweeper
mediocre wallbreaker
failure of an offensive pokemon


Maybe you don't like Electivire and maybe it isn't the best Pokemon to be using in this niche in this tier (or anything above), but there is no need to knock it this strongly. You're treating it like it's the WORST Pokemon in the world. Electivire can be useful in certain situations and I've seen him used well.

Maybe they should get someone else to write this, take a look at the review for other generally not-so-great Pokemon, and re-evaluate whether or not Electivire deserves to be spoken about this way.

Sidenote, why is a mixed set the only viable set? I've seen Scarf sets with Jolly run well, and Electivire has plenty of options. Any hesitation on my part about mentioning Volt Switch was removed when you write about Hidden Power Grass--- they should both be included. Especially on a Choice Set.

And, your last 3 counters PRETTY MUCH are counters for every single pokemon there is that doesn't have Magic Guard and isn't named Deoxys S. Maybe be more specific? Pokemon (like x, y, z) who outspeed Electivire will cause problems because they can OHKO with their powerful super-effective coverage moves, etc... Come on man.

Yes it actually does written this way because it needs to encourage new players not to use this thing at all costs. This thing is extremely outclassed as a wallbreaker, and as such a write-up making it sound horrible will (hopefully) stop people from using this.

A Choice Scarf set is extremely outclassed by Life Orb / Choice Specs Jolteon, who doesn't even need Choice Scarf to be fast, and Choice Scarf Rotom-C, who has a powerful secondary STAB, Trick, good defenses, Levitate, and a nice secondary typing.

The C&C will be more specific when it's written up.
 
The point of analyses is to be honest about a Pokemon's viability. This analysis is written negatively because as it currently stands, Electivire is ranked E on the viability thread (in other words unviable and not worth using on a serious team), is collectively agreed on by the RU community as a terrible Pokemon, and the analysis is supposed to deter people from using it. The write-up is less scathing than the skeleton, but if a Pokemon is poor in the metagame, then its analysis should be written in a tone to reflect that.

Speaking of which, this is written up and awaiting a third QC approval.
 
There are some sentences which provide no useful information here, including the last 2 sentences of the overview, last sentence of Team Options, and the last sentence of Usage Tips. I get that its bad but explicitly saying not to use is something that I don't like.

It doesn't really need Sticky Web so remove that.

Mention specific stuff with Spikes and Stealth Rocks like Omastar, Qwilfish (both lure Electric-types) Rhyperior, that kind of stuff.

I know this may seem weird, but mention a Choice Band in OO. Electric is honestly not that bad a type to be locked into (outside of Dugtrio obviously) and it actually does hit pretty hard and has access to Volt Switch to keep up momentum (I tested it, I was really looking to see if there was a better set), but mention it would prefer the coverage since its its main niche.

QC APPROVED 3/3
 
The point of analyses is to be honest about a Pokemon's viability. This analysis is written negatively because as it currently stands, Electivire is ranked E on the viability thread (in other words unviable and not worth using on a serious team), is collectively agreed on by the RU community as a terrible Pokemon, and the analysis is supposed to deter people from using it. The write-up is less scathing than the skeleton, but if a Pokemon is poor in the metagame, then its analysis should be written in a tone to reflect that.

Speaking of which, this is written up and awaiting a third QC approval.

Honesty is good. It's FINE and GOOD to say that a Pokemon is not viable in the metagame because of x y z reasons, etc. But just saying over and over again that it's useless and crappy and needs too much support—without giving concrete reasons, is not helping anyone get better. Part of the reason for making it clear that a Pokemon is not viable is to help users understand the forces in the meta that make it that way.

Unless Smogon is trying to breed drones that can't critically think on their own, I don't think this analysis is sufficient. You say you want to make good battlers by telling them not to use Electivire. How about making good battlers by showing them why he's not a good option, and maybe suggesting others that outclass him?

Just my 2 cents that everyone will probably disregard. l.e.l.
 
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