NU Ferroseed

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Overview
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With its unique typing and great defenses, Ferroseed takes a leap to NU as an amazing entry hazard setter. Ferroseed's unique Grass / Steel typing resists nine types and is immune to Poison. This allows Ferroseed to wall some of the strong Water-type threats in NU, such as Feraligatr, Samurott, and Seismitoad, as well as prominent Grass-types such as Ludicolo, Sceptile, and Cacturne. Due to the fact that Ferroseed is not fully evolved, it can utilize Eviolite, which is extremely beneficial in boosting its Defense and Special Defense to help it better wall offensive threats. Ferroseed's ability, Iron Barbs, allows it to punish physical attackers, making opponents think twice before attacking. Ferroseed's low Speed is a gift, as it can utilize Gyro Ball well, allowing it to turn its slow Speed into a strength and deal significant damage against speedy opponents. Ferroseed's low HP is also advantageous as it drains more health with Leech Seed from Pokemon with higher HP. A huge weakness that Ferroseed has is its 4x weakness to Fire. Ferroseed also struggles against setup sweepers with Substitute such as Klingklang because it lacks offensive presence, and can also be setup bait.

Hazard Setter
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name: Hazard Setter
move 1: Spikes / Stealth Rock
move 2: Gyro Ball / Seed Bomb
move 3: Leech Seed
move 4: Protect / Thunder Wave
ability: Iron Barbs
item: Eviolite
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD or 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
nature: Relaxed / Sassy

Moves
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Spikes are valuable for racking up residual damage every time opponents switch in, as well as breaking Focus Sashes. Stealth Rock should be used if other teammates lack it. STAB Gyro Ball allows Ferroseed to punish naturally faster Pokemon, Choice Scarf users, and Unburden users such as Slurpuff. However, Seed Bomb can be used instead of Gyro Ball as a STAB move, dealing huge amounts of damage against offensive threats such as Feraligatr, Floatzel, and Seismitoad. Leech Seed increases Ferroseed's longevity, and is a viable method of recovery. It often applies pressure to opponents to either switch out, or continue to take damage from Leech Seed. Protect can be useful for stalling in conjunction with Leech Seed, and is very useful for scouting opponent's arsenals to determine the appropriate plays. Thunder Wave can be used on switch-ins and can help to rack up Spikes damage by forcing switches. Leech Seed works well with Thunder Wave as it can apply pressure causing opponents to switch, allowing Ferroseed to capitalize with Thunder Wave and cripple dangerous threats such as Typhlosion, Magmortar, and Sawk.

Set Details
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Maximum HP and Defense investment helps Ferroseed tank a hit or two against physical powerhouses. Ferroseed takes advantage of Eviolite to bolster its Defense and Special Defense, making it a stronger wall. A Relaxed nature helps boost Ferroseed's Defense while also lowering its Speed, which benefits Ferroseed when using Gyro Ball. Alternatively, Ferroseed can invest in HP and Special Defense with a Sassy nature to make it a special wall capable of handling specially oriented Grass- and Water-types.

Usage Tips
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Start off by setting up entry hazards if possible, as this will apply pressure to the opponent, causing them to think more carefully about switching in and out. If there is no chance to set up hazards at first, start off with Protect to scout out the opponent’s moves. Take full advantage of this to help determine what moves the opponent might have and what you can do to counter it. Set up a Leech Seed after hazards have been set up, and follow it up with Protect. This will help Ferroseed remain in control of the matchup; not only receiving HP each turn but also slowly wearing down opposing Pokemon. Opponents will attempt to switch; being able to determine switch-ins is key for Ferroseed as it can use Leech Seed on an incoming opponent to wear them down or Gyro Ball for damage. Use Gyro Ball after Protect to make sure Ferroseed recovers from any damage taken. Thunder Wave can also be used when opponents switch in to slow them down for setup sweepers. However, it's worth noting that Thunder Wave is somewhat counterproductive with Gyro Ball, so always think about when to utilize both. Being able to predict Poison-type moves is useful, as Ferroseed can be tossed into play, saving teammates such as Slurpuff, Lilligant, or even Granbull from danger.

Team Options
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Having teammates such as Dragalge works perfectly for Ferroseed, as Dragalge resists Fighting- and Fire-type moves and can take special attacks such as Focus Blast, Fire Blast, and Flamethrower relatively easily due to its high Special Defense. Teammates such as Feraligatr and Magmortar are great because of their offensive presence. Feraligatr can sweep teams if it can set up, often getting rid of Ferroseed's checks in the process. Magmortar can sweep severely weakened teams as well. Ghost-types such as Mismagius are wonderful for spinblocking and are immune to Fighting-types, bar Pangoro. Togetic, Vullaby, and Pelipper are all valuable teammates with Defog in case the field gets scattered with hazards, as Ferroseed dislikes them. Instead of utilizing Defog, Cryogonal and Sandslash may be used as spinners, so that you don't have to get rid of your own hazards. Bulky walls such as Camerupt and Rhydon are useful teammates to allow Ferroseed to switch in safely. Seismitoad is great against Fire-types due to its resistance to Fire, and Ferroseed can wall Grass-types for Seismitoad in return.

Other Options
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Instead of Thunder Wave, Ferroseed can utilize Toxic to stall out opponents in conjunction with Protect and Leech Seed. Explosion can be used as a kamikaze attack, either crippling or completely taking out an enemy. Choice Band can be utilized to give Ferroseed an extra edge in physical damage; Choice Band is best used with Seed Bomb and Gyro Ball. Curse allows Ferroseed to boost its Attack and Defense while also lowering its Speed, allowing Ferroseed to demolish opponents with Gyro Ball. Bullet Seed in conjunction with Curse helps Ferroseed break through Substitutes and hit opponents such as Seismitoad.

Checks & Counters
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**Fire-types**: Magmortar can usually KO Ferroseed with a Lava Plume. Typhlosion can OHKO Ferroseed with Eruption or Fire Blast. Camerupt and Pyroar can usually KO Ferroseed with Flamethrower and Fire Blast.

**Taunt**: Taunt is detrimental to Ferroseed, stopping it from using entry hazards, Protect, and status moves. Taunt also leaves Ferroseed susceptible to status, hazards, and leaves it wide open for attacks.

**Substitute**: Substitute users can not only avoid Ferroseed's status moves but also stall out Gyro Ball, leaving Ferroseed as setup fodder. Pokemon such as Klinklang can use Substitute and set up on Ferroseed, then sweep.

**Fighting-types**: Gurdurr, Hariyama, and Sawk can not only utilize Knock Off to get rid of Eviolite, but can also KO Ferroseed with Close Combat, Superpower, and Drain Punch. Hariyama and Gurdurr can carry Guts, so avoid using Thunder Wave or Toxic against them.

**Hidden Power Fire Users**: Hidden Power Fire has now become more common, often seen on Grass-types such as Lilligant and Vileplume. Mesprit also commonly carries HP Fire.

**Xatu**: Thanks to Magic Bounce, Xatu is immune to everything in Ferroseed's arsenal, bar attacks, and can eliminate Ferroseed with Heat Wave. On top of this, Xatu can PP stall Gyro Ball and can whittle Ferroseed's HP down with Night Shade.

**Focus Blast Users**: Pokemon such as Sceptile, Dragalge, Jynx, Raichu, and Ludicolo all carry Focus Blast to counter Steel-types, making them highly dangerous to Ferroseed.
 
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Under checks and counters mention that knocking off Ferroseed's eviolite can be huge. Also Dragalge can carry Focus blast and seeing as you said Ferroseed should come in on it, its important to note that Specs Dragalge messes Ferroseed up 252+ SpA Choice Specs Dragalge Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Ferroseed: 268-316 (91.7 - 108.2%) -- 50% chance to OHKO.
Also under checks and counters anything with taunt or sub effectively walls Ferro, as they can stall out Gyro Ball PP and sub and set up in Ferroseeds face.
 
I'd move Seed Bomb to moves just because with Gyro Ball you lose to stuff you should beat like SubSd Gate and has much better synergy with Twave (You hit Ground types immune to it for SE and aren't weak as hell against paralyzed targets)
 
When it comes to the - of having low HP that infact can be a + because when coupled with leech seed recovery it allows for Ferro to get back a lot of HP from various mons with larger HP stats. I maybe wouldnt take out the - in the overview but maybe mention somewhere like in usage tips, that the amount of HP gained back from leech seed is greater due to its low HP stat, and that protecting every other turn can allow Ferro to take a hit over and over again. Or something along those lines.
 
Bullet seed is only really better for sub feraligatr, which is on the rise. Talked about it a bit on irc and dont think it deserves a /.
looks good [QC 2/3]
 
a lot of your usage tips are misleading.
  • Set up Spikes or Stealth Rock as soon as possible, typically the turn Ferroseed is out.
this isn't correct a lot of times since ferroseed will often be switching into set up sweepers such feraligatr, lilligant, or slurpuff and you wouldn't want to be setting up hazards against those pokemon
  • Gyro Ball on switch ins and outs
i can guarantee you that leech seed will be better for pretty much every switch in that's not xatu or a grass-type

i might sound nitpicky but a lot of new players will take these tips seriously

also for team options i would just mention rapid spinners such as cryogonal and sandslash instead of defoggers since you don't wanna kill your spikes

after you fix these you can consider this as the third qc check
 
Overview:
your overview focuses a lot on Ferroseed's traits and not so much on its roles. You should at least mention that Ferroseed walls most of the tier's offensive Water and Grass-types that lack HP Fire thanks to its fantastic typing. I'd also like you to add that Ferroseed doesn't have much offensive presence leaving it prone to being set up on by some annoying stuff like Klinklang

Also I'm not sure if multiple EV spreads are allowed on a set, because this wasn't the case last gen iirc. Raseri can you confirm?
 
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Overview
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With its unique typing and great defenses, Ferroseed takes a leap to NU as an amazing a great hazard setter. As mentioned, (comma) Ferroseed’s unique Grass / Steel typing allows it to resist 9 different typings and makes it immune to Poison. This allows Ferroseed to wall some of the strongest Water threats in NN NU tier such as Feraligatr, Samurott, and Seismitoad, (comma) and can as well as walling prominent Grass-types such as Ludicolo, Sceptile, and Cacturne as well. Due to the fact that Ferroseed is a not fully evolved, (comma) Pokemon it can utilize Eviolite, which is extremely beneficial in spiking boosting its defense and special defense to help it wall offensive threats. Ferroseed’s ability, (comma) Iron Barbs, (comma) allows it to punish physically offensive Pokemon, (comma) making opponents think twice before attacking Ferroseed. Ferroseed’s low speed is a gift as it can utilize Gyro Ball, allowing it to take turn its weakness and make it into a strength, allowing it to dealing out significant damage against speedy opponents. Ferroseed’s low HP is also a great strength as it drains more health from with Leech Seed from Pokemon with higher HP Stats. A huge glaring weakness that Ferroseed faces is its 4x weakness to Fire-types, (comma) which can take taking out Ferroseed relatively quickly in a match. Ferroseed also struggles against Substitute set up setup sweepers such as Klingklang because it lacks a huge offensive presence, (comma) and can also become set up setup bait.

Hazard Setter
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name: Hazard Setter
move 1: Spikes / Stealth Rock
move 2: Gyro Ball / Seed Bomb
move 3: Leech Seed
move 4: Protect / Thunderwave Thunder Wave
ability: Iron Barbs
item: Eviolite
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD | 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
nature: Relaxed / Sassy

Moves
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Spikes are valuable for garnering huge residual damage every time opponents switch in and out of a battle, as well as they're also able to breaking Focus Sash users as well. Alternatively, (comma) Stealth Rocks can be used to damage Flying-types as well as damage non-Flying-types. Stealth Rock should be used if other teammates lack it.(are you saying here that SR is better than Spikes? If yes, then switch the slashes around and make Spikes be the alternative, or remove this line) STAB Gyro Ball allows Ferroseed to punish naturally faster Pokemon, Choice Scarf Users, and Unburden users such as Slurpuff. However, Seed Bomb can be used instead of Gyro Ball as a STAB move, to dealing huge damage against offensive threats such as Feraligatr, Floatzel, and Seismitoad. Leech Seed increases Ferroseed's (apostrophe) longevity, (comma) and is a viable choice form of recovery. (period) It often applying applies pressure to opponents to either switch out, (comma) or continue to take more damage from Leech Seed. Protect can be useful for saving Ferroseed from death, allowing it to stall in conjunction with Leech Seed, (comma) and is very useful for scouting opponents arsenals to determine more appropriate plays. Thunderwave may be used on switch ins when the opponent wants to switch out, coupled with spike damage its great for rapid switches. Leech Seed works well as it can apply pressure causing opponents to switch allowing Ferrothorn to capitalize with Thunderwave Thunder Wave crippling dangerous threats such as Typlosion, Magmortar and Sawk.

Set Details
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Max HP and defense investments help Ferroseed tank a shot hit or two against physical powerhouses. (I think that 248 def / 8 sdef is better because you want even numbers for eviolite bonus) Ferroseed takes advantage of Eviolite to spike its Defense and Special Defense making it a stronger wall to withstand attacks. A Relaxed nature helps boost Ferroseed's (apostrophe) defense while also lowering its speed, which is a benefit for Ferroseed when utilizing Gyro Ball. Alternatively Ferroseed can also have investments in HP and Special Defense with a Sassy nature to make it a Special Wall capable of handling specially offensive Grass-and Water-types.

Usage Tips
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Start off by setting up hazards if possible as this will apply huge pressure to the opponent, (comma) causing them to think more carefully about switching in and out,. (period) If there is no chance to set up hazards at first, (comma) start off with Protect to scout out the opponent's (apostrophe) moves. Take full advantage of this to help determine what moves sets the opponent might have and what you can do to counter it. Set up a Leech Seed after hazards have been set up, and follow it up with Protect afterwords,. (period) This will help Ferroseed, (removed comma) remain in control of the match up, not only receiving HP after each turn but slowly wearing out opponents opposing Pokemon as they cannot break through Protect. Opponents will attempt to switch,; (semicolon) being able to determine switch-ins (hyphen) is key for Ferroseed as it can use Leech Seed an incoming opponent, or Gyro Ball. Use Gyro Ball after Protect and then back to Protect to help make sure Ferroseed recovers from any damage from its opponents. Alternatively Thunderwave Thunder Wave can also be used when opponents switch in and out, (comma) to slow them down for set up setup sweepers to come in on. However it's (apostrophe) worth noting that Thunderwave Thunder Wave is somewhat counterproductive with Gyro Ball so always think about when to utilize both. Being able to predict Poison moves is useful, (comma) as Ferroseed can be tossed into play, (comma) saving teammates such as Slurpuff, Lilligant, or even Granbull from danger.

Team Options
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Having teammates such as Dragalge works perfectly for Ferroseed, (comma) as Dragalge resists Fighting-and Fire-types and can take special attacks such as Focus-Blast, Fire Blast, and Flamethrower relatively easy due to its special defenses. Dragalge depends on Ferroseed because of its defensive capabilities. Offensive Teammates such as Feraligatr and Magmortar are great teammates because of their offensive presence. Feraligatr can sweep teams if set up setup, often getting rid of Ferroseed's (apostrophe) weaknesses. Magmortar can sweep severely weakened teams as well. Ghost-types such as Mismagius are wonderful for spin blocking spinblocking and are immune to Fighting-types, (comma) bar Pangoro. Togetic, Vullaby, and Pelliper are all valuable teammates with Defog in case the field gets scattered with hazards, (comma) as Ferroseed hates dislikes getting stuck in hazards. Alternatively Instead of utilizing Defog, Cryogonal and Sandslash my may be used as spinners, so that you don't have to get rid of your own hazards incase they're up. (space)Heavy Bulky walls such as Camerupt and Rhydon are useful teammates for to allow Ferroseed to switch into safely on stall squads. Seismitoad is great against Fire-types due to its 2x resistance to Fire-types. Ferroseed also resists Grass moves, (comma) walling Grass-types for Seismitoad.

Other Options
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Instead of Thunderwave Thunder Wave, Ferroseed can utilize Toxic to toxic stall out opponents with Protect and Leech Seed as well. Explosion can be used as a Kamakazi kamikaze attack, (comma) either crippling an offensive sweeper, a wall, or completely taking out an enemy completely. Choice Band can be utilized to give Ferroseed and extra edge in physical damage, often best used with Gyro Ball or and Seed Bomb to cause maximum damage. Curse also allows Ferroseed to bulk up boost its attack and defense, (comma) but also lowers lowering its speed significantly, (comma) allowing Ferroseed to demolish opponents with Gyroball if set up properly. Bullet Seed, in conjunction with Curse, helps Ferroseed demolish remove Substitute and can hit opponents such as Sub Seismitoad.

Checks & Counters
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**Fire-types**: Magmortar can usually KO Ferroseed with a Lava Plume. Typhlosion can OHKO Ferroseed with Eruption or Fire Blast. Camerupt and Pyroar can usually KO Ferroseed by utilizing with moves such as Flamethrower, or Fire Blast as well.

**Taunt**: Taunt is detrimental to Ferroseed, stopping it from utilizing hazards, Protect, or status moves. Taunt also leaves Ferroseed susceptible to statuses inflictions, hazards, and leaves it wide open for attacks.

**Substitute**: Substitute Pokemon can not only avoid status inflictions Ferroseed's status moves but can also stall out Gyro Ball, (comma) causing Ferroseed to be left as set up setup bait. Pokemon such as Klinklang can Substitute and set up setup on Ferroseed, (comma) then sweep.

**Fighting-types**: Gurdurr, Hariyama, and Sawk can not only utilize Knock Off to get rid of Eviolite, but they can also KO Ferroseed with Close Combat, Superpower, (comma) and Drain Punch. Hariyama and Gurdurr can carry Guts, so avoid using Thunderwave Thunder Wave or Toxic against them as they will only benefit from them the status.

**HP Fire Users**: Hidden Power Fire has now become more common, (comma) often seen on Grass-types such as Lilligant and Vileplume.; (semicolon) Mesprit can also access commonly uses HP Fire. (period) as well, making it a dangerous as well.

**Xatu**: Thanks to Magic Bounce, Xatu ignores everything in Ferroseed's (apostrophe) arsenal, (comma) bar attacks, and can eliminate Ferroseed with Heatwave. On top of this, (comma) Xatu can PP stall Gyro Ball and can utilize Night Shade as well, causing Ferroseed to get stopped in its tracks.

**Focus Blast Users**: Pokemon such as Sceptile, Dragalge, Jynx, Raichu, and Ludicolo all carry Focus Blast to counter Steel-types, making them highly dangerous against Ferroseed.
 
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Overview
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With its unique typing and great defenses, Ferroseed takes a leap to NU as an amazing great entry hazard setter. As mentioned,(RC) Ferroseed's unique Grass / Steel typing allows it to resists 9 different typings nine types and makes it is immune to Poison. This allows Ferroseed to wall some of the strongest Water-type threats in NU such as Feraligatr, Samurott, and Seismitoad, as well as walling prominent Grass-types such as Ludicolo, Sceptile, and Cacturne. Due to the fact that Ferroseed is a not fully evolved, it can utilize Eviolite, which is extremely beneficial in boosting its Defense and Special Defense to help it better wall offensive threats. Ferroseed's ability, Iron Barbs, allows it to punish physically offensive Pokemon physical attackers, making opponents think twice before attacking Ferroseed. Ferroseed's low Speed is a gift,(AC) as it can utilize Gyro Ball, allowing it to turn its this weakness into a strength,(RC) and dealing significant damage against speedy opponents. Ferroseed's low HP is also a strength advantageous as it drains more health from with Leech Seed from Pokemon with higher HP Stats. A huge weakness that Ferroseed faces has is its 4x weakness to Fire-types, taking out Ferroseed relatively quickly in a match. Ferroseed also struggles against Substitute setup sweepers with Substitute such as Klingklang because it lacks offensive presence, and can also become setup bait.


Hazard Setter

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name: Hazard Setter
move 1: Spikes / Stealth Rock
move 2: Gyro Ball / Seed Bomb
move 3: Leech Seed
move 4: Protect / Thunder Wave
ability: Iron Barbs
item: Eviolite
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD or 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
nature: Relaxed / Sassy


Moves

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Spikes are valuable for garnering racking up residual damage every time opponents switch in, as well as breaking Focus Sashes. Alternatively, Stealth Rocks can be used to damage Flying-types as well as damage non-Flying-types. Stealth Rock should be used if other teammates lack it. STAB Gyro Ball allows Ferroseed to punish naturally faster Pokemon, Choice Scarf users, and Unburden users such as Slurpuff. However, Seed Bomb can be used instead of Gyro Ball as a STAB move, dealing huge damage against offensive threats such as Feraligatr, Floatzel, and Seismitoad. Leech Seed increases Ferroseed's longevity,(RC) and is a viable choice method of recovery. It often applies pressure to opponents to either switch out, or continue to take damage from Leech Seed. Protect can be useful for saving Ferroseed from death,(RC) allowing it to stalling in conjunction with Leech Seed, and is very useful for scouting opponent's arsenals to determine more the appropriate plays. Thunder Wave may can be used on switch-ins when the opponent wants to switch out, coupled with spike damage its great for rapid switches and can help to rack up Spikes damage by forcing switches. Leech Seed works well with Thunder Wave as it can apply pressure causing opponents to switch,(AC) allowing Ferrothorn Ferroseed to capitalize with Thunder Wave crippling and cripple dangerous threats such as Typhlosion, Magmortar,(AC) and Sawk.


Set Details

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Maximum HP and Defense investments helps Ferroseed tank a hit or two against physical powerhouses. (I think that 248 def / 8 sdef is better because you want even numbers for eviolite bonus) Ferroseed takes advantage of Eviolite to spike bolster its Defense and Special Defense,(AC) making it a stronger wall. A Relaxed nature helps boost Ferroseed's Defense while also lowering its Speed, which is a benefits for Ferroseed when utilizing using Gyro Ball. Alternatively,(AC) Ferroseed can also have investments in HP and Special Defense with a Sassy nature to make it a special wall capable of handling specially offensive oriented Grass- and Water-types.


Usage Tips
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Start off by setting up entry hazards if possible,(AC) as this will apply huge pressure to the opponent, causing them to think more carefully about switching in and out. If there is no chance to set up hazards at first, start off with Protect to scout out the opponent’s moves. Take full advantage of this to help determine what moves the opponent might have and what you can do to counter it. Set up a Leech Seed after hazards have been set up, and follow it up with Protect. This will help Ferroseed remain in control of the matchup; not only receiving HP after each turn but also slowly wearing out down opposing Pokemon as they cannot break through Protect. Opponents will attempt to switch; being able to determine switch-ins is key for Ferroseed as it can use Leech Seed on an incoming opponent,(RC) to wear them down or Gyro Ball for damage. Use Gyro Ball after Protect and then back to Protect to help make sure Ferroseed recovers from any damage from its opponents taken. Thunder Wave can also be used when opponents switch in,(RC) to slow them down for setup sweepers to come in on. However,(AC) it's worth noting that Thunder Wave is somewhat counterproductive with Gyro Ball,(AC) so always think about when to utilize both. Being able to predict Poison moves is useful, as Ferroseed can be tossed into play, saving teammates such as Slurpuff, Lilligant, or even Granbull from danger.


Team Options
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Having teammates such as Dragalge works perfectly for Ferroseed, as Dragalge resists Fighting- and Fire-types and can take special attacks such as Focus Blast, Fire Blast, and Flamethrower relatively easy easily due to its high Special Defenses. Dragalge depends on Ferroseed because of its defensive capabilities. Teammates such as Feraligatr and Magmortar are great because of their offensive presence. Feraligatr can sweep teams if it can set up, often getting rid of Ferroseed's weaknesses checks in the process. Magmortar can sweep severely weakened teams as well. Ghost-types such as Mismagius are wonderful for spinblocking and are immune to Fighting-types, bar Pangoro. Togetic, Vullaby, and Pelipper are all valuable teammates with Defog in case the field gets scattered with hazards, as Ferroseed dislikes getting stuck in hazards them. Instead of utilizing Defog, Cryogonal and Sandslash may be used as spinners, so that you don't have to get rid of your own hazards. Bulky walls such as Camerupt and Rhydon are useful teammates to allow Ferroseed to switch in safely. Seismitoad is great against Fire-types due to its 2x resistance to Fire-types,(AC) and Ferroseed also resists Grass moves, can walling Grass-types for Seismitoad.


Other Options
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Instead of Thunder Wave, Ferroseed can utilize Toxic to toxic stall out opponents in conjunction with Protect and Leech Seed. Explosion can be used as a kamikaze attack, either crippling or completely taking out an enemy. Choice Band can be utilized to give Ferroseed and extra edge in physical damage, which often best used with Gyro Ball and Seed Bomb to cause for maximum damage. Curse also allows Ferroseed to boost its Attack and Defense,(RC) while also lowers lowering its Speed significantly, allowing Ferroseed to demolish opponents with Gyro Ball. Bullet Seed,(RC) in conjunction with Curse,(RC) helps Ferroseed remove break through Substitutes and can hit opponents such as Sub Seismitoad.


Checks & Counters

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**Fire-types**: Magmortar can usually KO Ferroseed with a Lava Plume. Typhlosion can OHKO Ferroseed with Eruption or Fire Blast. Camerupt and Pyroar can usually KO Ferroseed with Flamethrower and Fire Blast.


**Taunt**: Taunt is detrimental to Ferroseed, stopping it from utilizing using entry hazards, Protect, or and status moves. Taunt also leaves Ferroseed susceptible to statuses, hazards, and leaves it wide open for attacks.


**Substitute**: Substitute Pokemon users can not only avoid Ferroseed's status moves but can also stall out Gyro Ball, causing leaving Ferroseed to be left as setup bait fodder. Pokemon such as Klinklang can use Substitute and set setup on Ferroseed, then sweep.


**Fighting-types**: Gurdurr, Hariyama, and Sawk can not only utilize Knock Off to get rid of Eviolite, but can also KO Ferroseed with Close Combat, Superpower, and Drain Punch. Hariyama and Gurdurr can carry Guts, so avoid using Thunder Wave or Toxic against them as they will only benefit from them.


**Hidden Power Fire Users**: Hidden Power Fire has now become more common, often seen on Grass-types such as Lilligant and Vileplume. Mesprit also commonly uses carries HP Fire.


**Xatu**: Thanks to Magic Bounce, Xatu ignores is immune everything in Ferroseed's arsenal, bar attacks, and can eliminate Ferroseed with Heat wave. On top of this, Xatu can PP stall Gyro Ball and can utilize whittle Ferroseed's HP down with Night Shade.

**Focus Blast Users**: Pokemon such as Sceptile, Dragalge, Jynx, Raichu, and Ludicolo all carry Focus Blast to counter Steel-types, making them highly dangerous against to Ferroseed.
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Leech Seed works well as it can apply pressure causing opponents to switch allowing Ferrothorn to capitalize with Thunder Wave crippling dangerous threats such as Typlosion, Magmortar and Sawk.
You wrote Ferrothorn instead of Ferroseed this one time. (This has absolutely no relevance to the actual GP checks btw)
 
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Overview
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With its unique typing and great defenses, Ferroseed takes a leap to NU as an amazing entry hazard setter. Ferroseed's unique Grass / Steel typing resists nine types and is immune to Poison. This allows Ferroseed to wall some of the strong Water-type threats in NU, such as Feraligatr, Samurott, and Seismitoad, as well as prominent Grass-types such as Ludicolo, Sceptile, and Cacturne. Due to the fact that Ferroseed is not fully evolved, it can utilize Eviolite, which is extremely beneficial in boosting its Defense and Special Defense to help it better wall offensive threats. Ferroseed's ability, Iron Barbs, allows it to punish physical attackers, making opponents think twice before attacking. Ferroseed's low Speed is a gift,(AC) as it can utilize Gyro Ball well, allowing it to turn ithis weaknesslow Speed into a strength and deal significant damage against speedy opponents. Ferroseed's low HP is also advantageous as it drains more health with Leech Seed from Pokemon with higher HP. A huge weakness that Ferroseed has is its 4x weakness to Fire. Ferroseed also struggles against setup sweepers with Substitute such as Klingklang because it lacks offensive presence, and can also be setup bait.

Hazard Setter
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name: Hazard Setter
move 1: Spikes / Stealth Rock
move 2: Gyro Ball / Seed Bomb
move 3: Leech Seed
move 4: Protect / Thunder Wave
ability: Iron Barbs
item: Eviolite
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD or 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
nature: Relaxed / Sassy

Moves
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Spikes are valuable for racking up residual damage every time opponents switch in, as well as breaking Focus Sashes. Stealth Rock should be used if other teammates lack it. STAB Gyro Ball allows Ferroseed to punish naturally faster Pokemon, Choice Scarf users, and Unburden users such as Slurpuff. However, Seed Bomb can be used instead of Gyro Ball as a STAB move, dealing huge amounts of damage against offensive threats such as Feraligatr, Floatzel, and Seismitoad. Leech Seed increases Ferroseed's longevity, and is a viable method of recovery. It often applies pressure to opponents to either switch out, or continue to take damage from Leech Seed. Protect can be useful for stalling in conjunction with Leech Seed, and is very useful for scouting opponent's arsenals to determine the appropriate plays. Thunder Wave can be used on switch-ins, and can help to rack up Spikes damage by forcing switches. Leech Seed works well with Thunder Wave, as it can apply pressure, causing opponents to switch, allowing Ferroseed to capitalize with Thunder Wave and cripple dangerous threats such as Typhlosion, Magmortar, and Sawk.

Set Details
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Maximum HP and Defense investment helps Ferroseed tank a hit or two against physical powerhouses. Ferroseed takes advantage of Eviolite to bolster its Defense and Special Defense, making it a stronger wall. A Relaxed nature helps boost Ferroseed's Defense while also lowering its Speed, which benefits Ferroseed when using Gyro Ball. Alternatively, Ferroseed can invest in HP and Special Defense with a Sassy nature to make it a special wall capable of handling specially oriented Grass- and Water-types.

Usage Tips
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Start off by setting up entry hazards if possible, as this will apply pressure to the opponent, causing them to think more carefully about switching in and out. If there is no chance to set up hazards at first, start off with Protect to scout out the opponent’s moves. Take full advantage of this to help determine what moves the opponent might have and what you can do to counter it. Set up a Leech Seed after hazards have been set up, and follow it up with Protect. This will help Ferroseed remain in control of the matchup; not only receiving HP each turn but also slowly wearing down opposing Pokemon. Opponents will attempt to switch; being able to determine switch-ins is key for Ferroseed as it can use Leech Seed on an incoming opponent to wear them down or Gyro Ball for damage. Use Gyro Ball after Protect to make sure Ferroseed recovers from any damage taken. Thunder Wave can also be used when opponents switch in to slow them down for setup sweepers. However, it's worth noting that Thunder Wave is somewhat counterproductive with Gyro Ball, so always think about when to utilize both. Being able to predict Poison-type moves is useful, as Ferroseed can be tossed into play, saving teammates such as Slurpuff, Lilligant, or even Granbull from danger.

Team Options
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Having teammates such as Dragalge works perfectly for Ferroseed, as Dragalge resists Fighting- and Fire-type moves and can take special attacks such as Focus Blast, Fire Blast, and Flamethrower relatively easily due to its high Special Defense. Teammates such as Feraligatr and Magmortar are great because of their offensive presence. Feraligatr can sweep teams if it can set up, often getting rid of Ferroseed's checks in the process. Magmortar can sweep severely weakened teams as well. Ghost-types such as Mismagius are wonderful for spinblocking and are immune to Fighting-types, bar Pangoro. Togetic, Vullaby, and Pelipper are all valuable teammates with Defog in case the field gets scattered with hazards, as Ferroseed dislikes them. Instead of utilizing Defog, Cryogonal and Sandslash may be used as spinners, so that you don't have to get rid of your own hazards. Bulky walls such as Camerupt and Rhydon are useful teammates to allow Ferroseed to switch in safely. Seismitoad is great against Fire-types due to its resistance to Fire, and Ferroseed can wall Grass-types for Seismitoad in return.

Other Options
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Instead of Thunder Wave, Ferroseed can utilize Toxic to stall out opponents in conjunction with Protect and Leech Seed. Explosion can be used as a kamikaze attack, either crippling or completely taking out an enemy. Choice Band can be utilized to give Ferroseed an extra edge in physical damage, wh; Choich ofte Band is best used with Gyro Ball and Seed Bomb for maximum damageand Gyro Ball. Curse also allows Ferroseed to boost its Attack and Defense while also lowering its Speed, allowing Ferroseed to demolish opponents with Gyro Ball. Bullet Seed in conjunction with Curse helps Ferroseed break through Substitutes and hit opponents such as Seismitoad.

Checks & Counters
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**Fire-types**: Magmortar can usually KO Ferroseed with a Lava Plume. Typhlosion can OHKO Ferroseed with Eruption or Fire Blast. Camerupt and Pyroar can usually KO Ferroseed with Flamethrower and Fire Blast.

**Taunt**: Taunt is detrimental to Ferroseed, stopping it from using entry hazards, Protect, and status moves. Taunt also leaves Ferroseed susceptible to status, hazards, and leaves it wide open for attacks.

**Substitute**: Substitute users can not only avoid Ferroseed's status moves but also stall out Gyro Ball, leaving Ferroseed as setup fodder. Pokemon such as Klinklang can use Substitute and set up on Ferroseed, then sweep.

**Fighting-types**: Gurdurr, Hariyama, and Sawk can not only utilize Knock Off to get rid of Eviolite, but can also KO Ferroseed with Close Combat, Superpower, and Drain Punch. Hariyama and Gurdurr can carry Guts, so avoid using Thunder Wave or Toxic against them.

**Hidden Power Fire Users**: Hidden Power Fire has now become more common, often seen on Grass-types such as Lilligant and Vileplume. Mesprit also commonly carries HP Fire.

**Xatu**: Thanks to Magic Bounce, Xatu is immune to everything in Ferroseed's arsenal, bar attacks, and can eliminate Ferroseed with Heat wWave. On top of this, Xatu can PP stall Gyro Ball and can whittle Ferroseed's HP down with Night Shade.

**Focus Blast Users**: Pokemon such as Sceptile, Dragalge, Jynx, Raichu, and Ludicolo all carry Focus Blast to counter Steel-types, making them highly dangerous to Ferroseed.
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This one was a bit more interesting to tackle, Im glad it turned out this way and as always want to thank the QC'ers for advice, the GP'ers, and the Community for always helping out. This is never a one man effort, its always a group effort and Im glad we all can come together to make something like this occur. I can't see a better way than to post my 300th post, by thanking all of you for the help now, the help in the past, and hopefully the help in the future. Thank you.
 
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