Welp i was seeing hoopz as an all out attacker but this thing has acces to taunt...Thats something i missed completely. I swear to good i was looking for WOW for sub shennanigans and i missed tm 12...Ill give you that he isnt yhe kind of mon you want to switch into nor the kind of mon wich switches in easily. But as everybody said he can potentually criple some good defensive cores and check medicham. Im still without a soft dpot for this guy but well he could fo some serious damage in UU.