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The Counter Game
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Snorlax @ Choice Band
Immunity
120 HP/252 Atk/136 SpDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Return
- Earthquake
- Crunch
- Fire Blast
Swampert @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
Relaxed Nature
EV's: 240 HP/212 Def/56 SAtk
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
Ludicolo @ Leftovers
Swift Swim
252 HP/252 Def/6 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Grass Knot
- Leech Seed
- Hidden Power Fire
- Surf
@Brayels' Swampert
Bellossom@Leftovers
Bold 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpAtk
~Moonlight
~Energy Ball
~Sleep Powder
~HP Fire
Bellossom@Leftovers
Bold 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpAtk
~Moonlight
~Energy Ball
~Sleep Powder
~HP Fire
Magnezone @ Leftovers
252 HP / 252 SAtk / 6 SDef -- Modest
Thunderbolt
Substitute
Whatever
Whatever
To counter Cress...
Heracross@CB/S
Pursuit
Close Combat
Megahorn
Stone Edge
Here comes Gliscor...
Heracross@CB/S
Pursuit
Close Combat
Megahorn
Stone Edge
Here comes Gliscor...
Oops delete that last post...
To counter Magnezone...
Gliscor@CB
EQ
Aerial Ace
SR
Fire Fang
To counter Magnezone...
Gliscor@CB
EQ
Aerial Ace
SR
Fire Fang
Mantine
@Focus Sash
252 SpDef, 252 HP, 4 Spd
Substitute
Surf
HP Grass
Ice Beam
Come in on anything but Explosion, Substitute which he can't break, then pick him apart with Surf. If he Explodes the turn you came in, he's still...y'know, gone...and Mantine still technically survived.
Clamperl @Deepseatooth
EVs: 200 HP/252 SPATK/56 SPDEF
Ability: Shell Armor
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam
~ Hidden Power Electric
~ Substitute
Can come on a Surf or Ice Beam just fine, or even a sub, sets up a sub of its own, which if the Mantine is Encored, will be stuck into Ice Beam or Surf which can't bust through Clamperl's substitute thanks to the EVs and resistances, then it can 2HKO with Hidden Power Electric.
Cresselia @ Leftovers
106 HP/252 SpAtk/152 SpDef
Modest (+SpAtk, -Atk)
Charge Beam (use if you would rather do damage and boost your SpAtk stat rather than calm mind)/HP Electric
Ice Beam
Calm Mind
Moonlight
Switches in to any of Clamperl's attacks. It then uses calm minds, uses moonlight, and then finishes off with charge beam(s).
Houndoom @Leftovers
Pursuit
Crunch
Taunt
Howl
252 HP/Attack, 4 Speed
Adamant nature
Switches in on either of Cresselia's attacks (resists Ice Beam and Charge Beam is, well, weak), Taunt its attempts to Moonlight or Calm Mind, Pursuit if it switches out, Crunch if it doesn't.
Pursuit
Crunch
Taunt
Howl
252 HP/Attack, 4 Speed
Adamant nature
Switches in on either of Cresselia's attacks (resists Ice Beam and Charge Beam is, well, weak), Taunt its attempts to Moonlight or Calm Mind, Pursuit if it switches out, Crunch if it doesn't.
Garchomp @ Choice Band
Jolly - Sand Veil
6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Outrage
Earthquake
Fire Blast
Stone Edge
Garchomp likes to abuse Aggron's Earthquake weakness with its stabbed version of EQ. Garchomp can take Aggrons attacks.
Kingdra@cb
~hydro pump
~surf
~water gun
~protect
Rain is activated and comes in bp'd 3 nasty plots btw.
~hydro pump
~surf
~water gun
~protect
Rain is activated and comes in bp'd 3 nasty plots btw.
Arceus @ Grass Plate
~ Judgement
~ Dark Pulse
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Recover
Resists 3/4ths of Palkia's moves, can Recover off damage, and hit it hard with either Judgement or Dragon Pulse. (Dark Pulse to prevent someone from posting Shedinja again, and its Psychic owning properties.
Not assuming flinches or any other haxes
Wobbuffet @ Leftovers
- Counter
- Mirror Coat
- Encore
- Safeguard
Uncounterable since you can't switch out of it. Game over
Crobat@Life Orb
Mean Look
Nasty Plot
Shadow Ball
HP fighting
No matter if it do Encore, Mean Look traps, Nasty Plot sets up and SB for the win
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