ORAS OU Mega Gyarados ORAS Team (my first RMT)

Xerxes132

Xerxes132

With mega gyarados getting crunch in ORAS and a few of my other liked pokemon becoming decent checks/counters to new threats, i figured this would be a good time to try them out.

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Gyarados @ Gyaradosite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Crunch
- Waterfall
- Ice Fang

The mega of the team. It was the base of this team. Mega Gyarados can play mindgames with opponents with its typing with it changing types and forcing your opponent to predict or not whether im going to mega that turn, next turn, or at all.

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Rhyperior @ Leftovers
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 212 HP / 44 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Rock Blast
- Ice Punch

Physical tank. Rhypherior can check/counter quite a bit in the new ORAS meta, including mega salamence. Also as a rock setter, it can destroy mega salamence and alot of other pokemon that it resists, which without this team is very weak to. heres some calcs just in case:
+1 252+ Atk Aerilate Salamence Return vs. 212 HP / 252 Def Rhyperior: 127-150 (29.9 - 35.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
44+ Atk Rhyperior Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Salamence: 264-312 (79.5 - 93.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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Thundurus @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Volt Switch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Taunt

Used mainly as a crippler, Prankster t-wave and taunt can be used to severely cripple sweepers and use volt switch to pivot out in case danger is ahead. Hidden power Ice for the ground types that would come i on a t-wave or a volt switch expecting a free switch, and taunt to stop anybody setting up. Generally my anti-lead pokemon.

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Togekiss @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 232 HP / 252 SDef / 24 Spd
Calm Nature
- Roost
- Defog
- Air Slash
- Thunder Wave

Looking at the team its been noted that this team was very mega sceptile weak, and togekiss was suggested. It worked better than i expected. 232 evs in hp for a leftovers number, max out SpDef to take most special hits being boosted by its calm nature. Roost for recovery, defog to clear hazards because this team is very weak to them, air slash for STAB and thunder wave for some crippling power as well.

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Slowbro @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Slack Off
- Fire Blast
- Scald
- Ice Beam

Slowbro s my go to physical wall that resists and can tank most physical hits thrown at it. Its water/psychic typing offers plenty of coverage with the rest of the team. Slack off for recovery, Scald for STAB and burns to take physical hits easier. Fire Blast for steel types and anything that resists scald. Ice beam is on here because of the constant landos, lati twins, and other dragons running around, ce beam allows slowbro to touch them and have more coverage.

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Goodra @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 240 HP / 252 SpA / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb
- Muddy Water

Goodra is my special tank and offers most of the important coverage needed on this team along with taking the water hits rhyperior cant. Sap sipper is to counter ferrothorn and breloom, so i will most of the time have a switch in for the leech seeds, spores, etc. Draco for a very hard hitting STAB move, Fire blast to deal with the steel types draco dosent, Sludge bomb for the azumarills, clefables, and any other predicted switches. Lastly muddy water because it 2hkos heatran just like modest eq but also gives me coverage against pokemon like landorus.

Thank you for looking at my first RMT. Any suggestions will be greatly connsidered
 
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Hello, not to be nitpicky but you should add more descriptions on the pokemons.
At any rates, I can see Mega Sceptile being problematic for you, he doesn't care about thunder wave from thundurus, dragon pulse can hurt goodra, while giga drain slowbro, rhypherior and gyara, scizor too isn't safe because of hp fire.
I would consider Bulky Defog Togekiss over Scizor, while an unusual choice, he can defog, just like Scizor, and is immune to dragon moves, well actually ground types too, so stuff like Garchomp has no chances.

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Togekiss (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 232 HP / 252 SDef / 24 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Roost
- Defog
- Air Slash
- Thunder Wave
232 hp evs gives you a Leftovers number
Hope it helped, good luck!
 
Enki said:
Hello, not to be nitpicky but you should add more descriptions on the pokemons.
At any rates, I can see Mega Sceptile being problematic for you, he doesn't care about thunder wave from thundurus, dragon pulse can hurt goodra, while giga drain slowbro, rhypherior and gyara, scizor too isn't safe because of hp fire.
I would consider Bulky Defog Togekiss over Scizor, while an unusual choice, he can defog, just like Scizor, and is immune to dragon moves, well actually ground types too, so stuff like Garchomp has no chances.

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Togekiss (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 232 HP / 252 SDef / 24 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Roost
- Defog
- Air Slash
- Thunder Wave
232 hp evs gives you a Leftovers number
Hope it helped, good luck!
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bulky togekiss might work. ive used it before n didnt like it much but it seems to fit here. ill try it out, especially since scizor was originally a banded slightly editted when i editted the team a bit before this. id like another physical attacker but i cant exactly be nitpicky lol. and i apologize for the lack of description
 
Xerxes132 said:
bulky togekiss might work. ive used it before n didnt like it much but it seems to fit here. ill try it out, especially since scizor was originally a banded slightly editted when i editted the team a bit before this. id like another physical attacker but i cant exactly be nitpicky lol. and i apologize for the lack of description
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Regular Defog Scizor is so much worse than Defog Mega Scizor due to the substantial loss of bulk. Togekiss also gives you more leverage against MSceptile, whereas Scizor is flat-out OHKOd by Hidden Power Fire. Is it the best replacement? I cannot answer that. Is it a better choice than Scizor? Yes.

I recommend a slight change in Slowbro's EV spread; 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 SDef ensures that Slowbro will never be 2HKOd by Choice Specs Keldeo's Hydro Pump after Stealth Rock, which is really needed, since you do not have anything else that can actually beat Keldeo.

Make those changes, and you should be fine for now. Good luck!
 
Alfalfa said:
Regular Defog Scizor is so much worse than Defog Mega Scizor due to the substantial loss of bulk. Togekiss also gives you more leverage against MSceptile, whereas Scizor is flat-out OHKOd by Hidden Power Fire. Is it the best replacement? I cannot answer that. Is it a better choice than Scizor? Yes.

I recommend a slight change in Slowbro's EV spread; 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 SDef ensures that Slowbro will never be 2HKOd by Choice Specs Keldeo's Hydro Pump after Stealth Rock, which is really needed, since you do not have anything else that can actually beat Keldeo.

Make those changes, and you should be fine for now. Good luck!
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thanks alot. i didnt think i got screwed by mega sceptile that badly. i now only dont have anything for fairy types, but i can manage
 
You should be fine, Goodra scares off Clefable with Sludge Bomb and great special bulk, Slowbro can stop Assault Vest Azumarill, while Gardevoir althrough troublesome isn't that much bulky so she will find an hard time setting up, Goodra can take a hit if the situation requires it, both Thundurus and Togekiss can paralyze her (hyper voice fails to 2hko togekiss) and roost off the damage.
 
Xerxes132 Mega Sceptile+Talonflame seems to absolutely decimate your team, with both of them weakening each other's checks for either to sweep. I would say Zapdos is a better defogger than Scizor on your team, since mixed defensive Zapdos can handle both Mega Sceptile and Talonflame well.

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/144 DEF/112 SPDEF
Bold Nature
-Thunderbolt
-HP Ice
-Roost
-Defog

If you find the need to outspeed Adamant Bisharp, you can move 16 EVs from Defense to Speed

Here are some relevant Damage Calcs
252 SpA Sceptile Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 112 SpD Zapdos: 145-172 (37.7 - 44.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO (edited the typing and base special attack)
+2 252 Atk Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 128+ Def Zapdos: 258-304 (67.1 - 79.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 SpA Zapdos Thunderbolt vs. 88 HP / 0 SpD Talonflame: 320-378 (100.3 - 118.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Zapdos Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Sceptile: 240-284 (85.4 - 101%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO (edited the typing already)
 
gorex said:
Xerxes132 Mega Sceptile+Talonflame seems to absolutely decimate your team, with both of them weakening each other's checks for either to sweep. I would say Zapdos is a better defogger than Scizor on your team, since mixed defensive Zapdos can handle both Mega Sceptile and Talonflame well.

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/144 DEF/112 SPDEF
Bold Nature
-Thunderbolt
-HP Ice
-Roost
-Defog

If you find the need to outspeed Adamant Bisharp, you can move 16 EVs from Defense to Speed

Here are some relevant Damage Calcs
252 SpA Sceptile Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 112 SpD Zapdos: 145-172 (37.7 - 44.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO (edited the typing and base special attack)
+2 252 Atk Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 128+ Def Zapdos: 258-304 (67.1 - 79.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 SpA Zapdos Thunderbolt vs. 88 HP / 0 SpD Talonflame: 320-378 (100.3 - 118.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Zapdos Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Sceptile: 240-284 (85.4 - 101%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO (edited the typing already)
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im fine on physical bulk with rhyperior slowbro mix. the togekiss seems to be the better option in this case
 
Xerxes132 The thing is that both Rhyperior and Slowbro take a chunk or get killed by Mega Sceptile's Giga Drain, allowing Talonflame to just come through after one Swords Dance. And Talonflame can take on Scizor and Goodra for Mega Sceptile to come through. But it is your team after all, this is just my opinion
 
Ok i tried out the zapdos and the togekiss and the togekiss seemed to work better. The zapdos didnt help me very much with my M-sceptile problem and the togekiss countered it almost perfectly when i fought them. I decided to go with the togekiss and have made changes to the opening post as well
 
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