They Call Me ScepToad!!!
(art by me)
Introduction(art by me)
Sup smogon, this is my first rmt here and this team is one of my best team I've ever built (I guess). This team has been bringing me a lot of fun and success, it helped me to peak#11 on suspect ladder and Seismitoad is a fun mon to use, so I do love this team!
More importantly, this team is made before Metagrossite is suspected, so this team is usable in OU with Mega Metagross on it (but u do need to play very carefully cus its a really great threat)
Obviously I'm JY Test lol
I peaked #11 with 53-14 W/L (got haxed a lot not gonna lie)
I peaked #11 with 53-14 W/L (got haxed a lot not gonna lie)
At first, I saw this core on Team Building Shop Redux, and I like the sub mega scep + banded scizor a lot, so I tried to build a team around these two mons
Then, I added talon with my favoruite set: sdef stall breaker talon, so as to deal with the annoying ferro, also fairies like mega altaria and clefable, and to deal with opposing scizor cus this talon can switch-in to any scizor safely. More importantly, it can takle zard Y and stall out the sun... and many many good things, really love this mon
Afterward, I found my team is weak to keldeo, and have no safe switch-in to scald (I don't want my sceptile to be burned), so I used Starmie as my answer to keldeo, also it can help talon to spin out the hazards
Looking at these 4 mons, I knew I'm weak to sand team that Drill can sweep my team, then I thought of lando-t was a great counter and check for opposing Drill
However, I switched lando-t to Gliscor cus I love how sdef SD gliscor and beat mega sab, switch-in to gengar, and also checks Drill.
Lastly, I do need a Stealth Rocker which is not afraid of water, also act as a bird check, so I found Seismitoad is the perfect mon for my team, and I do enjoy using the mon that is not common in OU
Team at a Glance
Team Details
Sceptile-Mega (M) @ Sceptilite
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Dragon Pulse
- Focus Blast
- Giga Drain / Leaf Storm
- Substitute / Hidden Power Ice
I lovvvvvvvvvve this set of Mega Sceptile, it's a fast mega, even faster then all the common fast megas in OU like Mega Lopunny. I just use the standard spread for Mega Sceptile with sub +3 atks.
Dragon Pulse - To hit Dragons like the Latios and Latias, its a STAB move with 145 SpA after mega which means it can deal massive damage to any mons except walls.
Focus Blast - To hit Ferro, Heatran and Tyranitar, also to hit Scizor, Klefki if needed. (It guranteed 2HKO any types of Ferro and Heatran).
Giga Drain - Prefered cus im using sub, it does enough to take on those bulky water types like Slowbro, Azumarill and Rotom-Wash (mostly are guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock), Giga Drain also guaranteed OHKO Mega Diancie even without SR on opponent's field.
Substitute - I like using sub cus if I get the prediction right, I do gain a chance to spam any moves, and I have Giga Drain to recover the lost of HP. One of the best example is that u can predict the Sucker Punch and go for sub, then u can easily click attack without a fear of getting serious damage from sucker punch.
Hidden Power Ice - It can be an option over sub cus sdef Gliscor with SD+Roost can potentially 6-0 my team if I dont play it carefully, therefore, HP Ice can help smash Gliscor, but u do lose a chance to spam moves behind the sub, and ur opponent can spam sucker punch 1v1 ur scep.
If u use HP Ice over sub, Leaf Storm can be adopted cus u dont need HP recover as much as when u have sub, and u can have a much powerful move which guaranteed OHKO any Azumarill after Stealth Rock now (except its sap sipper ;_; and OHKO non-av azum even without SR)
Talonflame (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 248 HP / 244 SpD / 16 Spe
Careful Nature
- Brave Bird
- Will-O-Wisp / Bulk Up / Swords Dance
- Taunt
- Roost
Its a sdef Talon which acts as a stallbreaker. As it has become very common now, I have 16 spe ev instead of the standard 8 spe ev so that I can outspeed another sdef talon to taunt it (originally runs 12, and some are running 12 too.. so i guess 16 spe is fine). This thing can switch into every Scizor safely and cripple it with will-o-wisp, as well as its a safe switch to Slyveon, Clefable, even eat up a Draco at full then roost up.
Brave Bird - It's pretty self explanatory
Will-O-Wisp - Wow is to cripple lando-t and ttar on switching, also it can weaken rotom-wash, also cripple scizor, bisharp and many physical attackers. Bulk UP/ SD can be another options cus u can set up on Heatran which does not carry Stone Edge or Ancient Power.
Taunt - Taunt is a need to break stall mons like stopping clef from setting up, stalling out Quagsire, Skarmony, Chansey, Ferrothorn, Alomomola, it can even stall out Zapdos and Raikou if needed.
Roost - Important to recover the HP and the effect of losing flying type helps stalling out lots of mons using electric or rock atks
Seismitoad (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature (Relaxed Nature if using EQ)
IVs: 0 Atk (31 Atk if using EQ)
- Scald
- Stealth Rock
- Icy Wind / Earth Power / Earthquake
- Toxic
Its actually a great mon in OU tho its not common at all. Its ability is so great that it can stop scarf/specs Keldeo from spamming sclad/hydros. Also it does have great defense to eat up physical attacks from Zard X, Meaga Metagross without Grass Knot, Victini without Energy Ball, Azumarill, Bisharp, Excadrill, Tyranitar, Garchomp, Lando-T, Scizor...... Even more, its a perfect check and counter of Magnezone, Mega Manetric and Thundurus without Grass Knot or Nasty Plot
Scald - 30% burn chance can be very important to cripple the physical attackers
Stealth Rock - Mainly for flying type mons.
Icy Wind - To help deal with Dragonite or some setup sweepers (shoutout to habajiga for the suggestion)
Toxic - To beat some setup sweeper without sub
Earth Power - It helps beat Heatran quicker, hit; Earthquake can be an option to hit heatran harder (Thanks ~yoda~ for the suggestion)
Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 244 HP / 184 SpD / 80 Spe
Careful Nature
- Knock Off / Ice Fang
- Swords Dance / Roost
- Earthquake
- Taunt / Roost
This is another stall breaker in my team cus i hate stall ;_; Thanks cosine180 for the spread. 80 spe ev is good enough to beat another Gliscor and stopped it from SDing or taunting or roosting (i've mentioned that sdef Gliscor with SD+Roost may 6-0 my team, this is my best answer to it). This set also beats M.Sableye, Chansey, Quagsire, Chansey, Ferrothorn, Alomomola and Skarmony. Moreover, its a great answer to Gengar cus it can eat up two shadow balls. I normally use it as a check to Lando-T and Excadrill.
Knock Off - Beat Gengar, Latias, Latios and Knock off some lefties so that u can stall out a mon more easier
Swords Dance - It helps beat Mega Sableye and many walls
Earthquake - Powerful STAB move to beat Drill
Taunt - Beat stall
Ice Fang - Beat opp's Gliscor, and prevent Dragonite from setting up on Gliscor.
Roost - Roost can be an alternative over Taunt/SD to increase the number of switch-in to Gengar, also helps beat the Latis 1v1 at full by predicting Draco and use Roost, stall out Rotom Wash's hydros and finally beat it. However, roost over taunt will give u a hard time vs stall team with skarmony cus skarm can whirlwind, roost..... u cant beat it; while roost over SD will make u lose to CM Mega Sab 1v1.
*You can run Knock off, Taunt, Earthquake and Roost if your Talonflame runs Brave Bird, Swords Dance, Taunt and Roost. (Thanks Nelson for it)
Starmie @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Psyshock
- Rapid Spin
- Recover
Undoubtedly, Starmie is the best spinner in OU. I like the bulky set cus it ensures me to beat Keldeo even it got CM up. I run max speed cus i found the extra def ev is not important to help me avoid some OHKO or 2HKOs and now I can force a speed tie vs Raikou if needed. It kills Gengar in one hit even without any SpA investment.
0 SpA Starmie Psyshock vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gengar: 260-308 (100.3 - 118.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Scald - 30% burn yummy ;P
Psyshock - OHKO Gengar, beat CM Sub Keldeo
Rapid Spin - Help talon
Recover - I like to be healthy why not
Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 200 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Spe
Adamant Nature
- U-turn
- Pursuit / Knock Off
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
CB Scizor is very good to beat some setup sweepers especially those Fairies setup sweepers like Mega Altaria, Mega Diancie, Clefable. It just works like a charm. 56 Spe ev can help me outspeed standard BD Azumarill and hit it with BP before it uses Aqua Jet if neeed. 200 HP ev provides enough bulk to take some hit from Draco, Hyper Voice from Mega Altaria and Mega Gardvoir (in range of 2HKO if Garde is modest).
U-turn - Slow U-turn is great for my team cus I can guarantee get my Gliscor's toxic orb activated, send out the fast sceptile or some threats to my opponents' team
Pursuit - To trap the Lati@s or Gengar, I find pursuit is much useful than Knock Off cus Lati@s is one of the threats on my team
Bullet Punch - Beat those fairies and lots of things
Superpower - Deal massive damage to Ferro, OHKO Heatran on switch
Biggest Threats
Replays
VS Mega Glalie Team (You can see how Talon beat specs Raikou)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-213388872
VS Trick Room Team
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-213391108
VS Mob Barley (my Talon got 3 paras in row was no joke lol)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-213392299
Played bad in early game but Gliscor was MVP
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-213395418
VS Mega Gardevoir Team (Pretty scary match cus its a great threat as i mentioned)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-213418688
VS lure Heatran Team (Turn 1 OHKO my toad ;_;)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-213422522
VS Sun Team
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-213425181
Tough game (Ferro + Heatran core is very annoying)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-213658265
Another tough game (Didn't expect Thunder Punch from Mega Metagross)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-221151223
Replays from frens:
Gee Mick used it in room tour and it showcased how this team works
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-213500132
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-213388872
VS Trick Room Team
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-213391108
VS Mob Barley (my Talon got 3 paras in row was no joke lol)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-213392299
Played bad in early game but Gliscor was MVP
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-213395418
VS Mega Gardevoir Team (Pretty scary match cus its a great threat as i mentioned)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-213418688
VS lure Heatran Team (Turn 1 OHKO my toad ;_;)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-213422522
VS Sun Team
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-213425181
Tough game (Ferro + Heatran core is very annoying)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-213658265
Another tough game (Didn't expect Thunder Punch from Mega Metagross)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-221151223
Replays from frens:
Gee Mick used it in room tour and it showcased how this team works
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-213500132
Importable
Sceptile-Mega (M) @ Sceptilite
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Dragon Pulse
- Focus Blast
- Giga Drain
- Substitute
Talonflame (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 248 HP / 244 SpD / 16 Spe
Careful Nature
- Brave Bird
- Will-O-Wisp
- Taunt
- Roost
Seismitoad (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Stealth Rock
- Icy Wind
- Toxic
Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 244 HP / 184 SpD / 80 Spe
Careful Nature
- Knock Off
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Taunt
Starmie @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Psyshock
- Rapid Spin
- Recover
Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 200 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Spe
Adamant Nature
- U-turn
- Pursuit
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Dragon Pulse
- Focus Blast
- Giga Drain
- Substitute
Talonflame (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 248 HP / 244 SpD / 16 Spe
Careful Nature
- Brave Bird
- Will-O-Wisp
- Taunt
- Roost
Seismitoad (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Stealth Rock
- Icy Wind
- Toxic
Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 244 HP / 184 SpD / 80 Spe
Careful Nature
- Knock Off
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Taunt
Starmie @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Psyshock
- Rapid Spin
- Recover
Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 200 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Spe
Adamant Nature
- U-turn
- Pursuit
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
Shoutouts
Nelson Thank u for appreciating my team and help me test out the team with some changes, also seeing u beat Lyconik with my team means a lot cus i've been always trying to improve my team building skills. (tho that was just a fun friednly match, still nice n_n) Also, thanks for bringing me to bof, I've improved a lot since then cus I can talk with and learn from many great players on smogon ;)
cosine180 Thank u for giving me some great teams which inspired me to make this team :)
Alkov Buddy!!! Thank u for being with me when I was trying to use this team to peak the ladder, and also thanks for showing ur understanding when I got haxed n_n (cus we both do y/n lol)
FalseHopes Hey, thank u for supporting me and cheering with me the whole time when I trying to peak. Also, u helped me to make this thread's name! I like it ;)
Mistaken One of my best friend on PS! Really thank you for being so nice to me and encourage me when I got haxed to death :)
Tom Bus Thank u for encouraging me to keep battling when I was doing well, and also being with me when im battling :)
DennisEG Big thanks for helping me test and discuss how to deal with the biggest threat to my team :)
Prankster. Thank you for being so nice to me and u made me realised the great threat to my team cus u almost 6-0ed me with ur sdef Gliscor once lol
Big thanks to bof, u guys are just great, i've learnt a lot from u guys so that I can finally make a team that I feel great and works great n_n Also thanks for helping me to get this thread's name, those suggested names were so funny rofl
cosine180 Thank u for giving me some great teams which inspired me to make this team :)
Alkov Buddy!!! Thank u for being with me when I was trying to use this team to peak the ladder, and also thanks for showing ur understanding when I got haxed n_n (cus we both do y/n lol)
FalseHopes Hey, thank u for supporting me and cheering with me the whole time when I trying to peak. Also, u helped me to make this thread's name! I like it ;)
Mistaken One of my best friend on PS! Really thank you for being so nice to me and encourage me when I got haxed to death :)
Tom Bus Thank u for encouraging me to keep battling when I was doing well, and also being with me when im battling :)
DennisEG Big thanks for helping me test and discuss how to deal with the biggest threat to my team :)
Prankster. Thank you for being so nice to me and u made me realised the great threat to my team cus u almost 6-0ed me with ur sdef Gliscor once lol
Big thanks to bof, u guys are just great, i've learnt a lot from u guys so that I can finally make a team that I feel great and works great n_n Also thanks for helping me to get this thread's name, those suggested names were so funny rofl
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