Pretty much sums up how I feel right now with the argument I am trying to make. But I will try this again and a few more times if I have to.
About the whole claim situation, I'm still not convinced how it would help the town in any form. I've defended myself and managed to ward off people like
Celever and even
Spiffy when they thought they'd find something scummy in my behaviour.
I'm not asking for any kind of impunity with regards to my possible power role. What I want is for people to start to actually scumhunt based on previous day, and their results from last night.
This is a paradox. You want us to scum hunt based on the results from last night and this is what we're doing. The announcer states he was almost lynched. Someone used an action that linked you to the announcer as well. This isn't just about your actions at the end of day one. It is also about going with the only source of information that has been made public to the group. That is the announcers clues and you being tagged to the announcer. This is why I said at the very least, you need to tell us if you are or are not the announcer. It would help narrow down the targets of possible people who they could be and allow us to focus elsewhere.
That make sense? I have a list of people who the announcer could be. And depending on if or if you are not the announcer, it helps us to look at other people and better avoid a miss lynch on day two. You need to let me and the group know if you're him or not. This will both go a ways to lessen suspicion from you and focus on other people who were almost lynched last day as being somewhat "safer." And there are additional reasons I want a yes or no answer because I have follow ups on both sides. And no, I'm not telling you these because this isn't a Goosebumps pick your path book. If you answer honestly, you'll be okay and everything should make sense. And I will tell you all of what you need to know about why I'm doing what I'm doing. I just cant now.
Anyways the bolded quote is a paradox. You were a suspect the previous day (debate this all you want but you were by many people for good reasons) and you are tied to two pieces of information from the night. You say that you don't want impunity, but yet you set yourself up as an exception to the goal you just wanted? All because you think you have answered everything by claiming a power role and want to move on. But, and insert sarcasm here, you don't want an exception. I swear to god man, you are literally being Patrick.
That's the whole point of everything here. Once you wake up and see half the town is lynching you, even after you bring decent reasoning for defense that convinces some of the more experienced players (like Jalmont, fate), you start to get paranoid. Spiffy can confirm this
Pretty much what I am getting from this wording and based on your actions in being reluctant to claim is that you lied about being a power role to save your own ass? In this game, some villagers are going to have to die to protect others. And some are going to have to die to give the rest valuable information. You got paranoid, claimed a power roll to save yourself, and are now trying to cover that up with these self righteous acts. You didn't care about the mafia having information on who was a power role when you made the claim. So you saying you care now doesn't hold ANY water in your sinking boat. Only reason you are saying that is because 1) you are a villager and you lied about a power role so you could keep playing, and dont want to get caught in the lie because it will mean another miss lynch or 2) you are mafia and lied because that's literally what you want to do, and dont want to get subjected to the villages criticisms for your Jalmost-esque weirdness.
Also, Spiffy might have been paranoid but he though rationally and convinced us not to vote for him based on his play and his reasoning. He didn't resort to claiming he was a power role, but then had to go be somewhere else in 10 minutes, assuring he wouldn't have to claim and making a plausible enough explanation to avoid suspicion.
Finally, and this is a big point:
Did you ever bother to do this?? Almost on every tournament scheduling I've mentioned my timezone and proposed weekends as my available days. Honestly I don't know why you need me to prove this to you.
You were never under fire for telling a lie about your time zone. It helps to explain why you werent posting and gives you a very legitimate reason to possibly skate by. However let me point this out right now. None of us has changed our schedules, yet you have been one of the most vocal and talkative of the group. Where was this day 1? Where was this passion and self motivation to question people and give your opinions?
You seem to be using your time zone as a shield. It's a legitimate excuse that you can use to make us seem that how you play is based on a natural reason, when in fact you are purposely not contributing because you figured out you have a natural defense should you be called out. The whole thing about "where was this passion and this level of movtiation" supports this. So does how you weasel your way out of the lynch by going "oh yeah I know it's moments before the deadline but guys I'm a power role but I dont want to tell you my role. And wow, look at that time difference I got to go to bed good luck. *fake snore* "
I am letting you know this now.
You using your time zone as an excuse is not a valid strategy/defense in the future to me. If we get to another god damned deadline and you pull this nonsense again I will do everything in my power to get you targeted. You need to learn how to play and contribute DESPITE your limitations instead of making excuses and doing chickenshit actions BECAUSE of your limitations and knowing you can get away with it.
Spiffy Fatecrashers vonFiedler Amianki rssp1 for comments on all of this. Other people can comment too, but these are the players who have been the most involved and logical. And whose thoughts/strategies I value the most.
