what does stealing a team have to do with observing the meta lol? least amount of games you have to play is like 50, i'd say anyone that has done that deserves to be heard and respected. dont matter if u built the team or not imoConsidering I almost made reqs for Lando-i test back in BW with swagplay as a joke, and the general quality of the suspect ladders, I'd say not really. You can steal a good team and just spam games and you'll probably make reqs if you don't make absolutely retarded plays.
Is that a bad thing? By that logic Aim must be shit since he spams lots of ladder games in lives with borrowed teams.You can steal a good team and just spam games and you'll probably make reqs if you don't make absolutely retarded plays.
Considering I almost made reqs for Lando-i test back in BW with swagplay as a joke, and the general quality of the suspect ladders, I'd say not really. You can steal a good team and just spam games and you'll probably make reqs if you don't make absolutely retarded plays.
I don't really think uu is banced yet, although I do think its the most balanced tier thus far, which is why its so enjoyableYeah, i think there should be a Mega-Pidgeot suspect test, it's overcentralizing because of it's speed, attack and ability, it ohko's almost every pokemon in Underused, i think it would be a great decision to Suspect Mega-Pidgeot, but the tier is balanced now because of Victini's ban, so everything's great.
Making a pretty bold claim saying that Pidgeot "ohko's almost every pokemon in Underused" when nothing in the S-through-A- ranks takes 100% from Hurricane/Heat Wave unless they're hit super effectively by them. (and even then Mega Aggron can eat at least 1 Heat Wave).Yeah, i think there should be a Mega-Pidgeot suspect test, it's overcentralizing because of it's speed, attack and ability, it ohko's almost every pokemon in Underused, i think it would be a great decision to Suspect Mega-Pidgeot, but the tier is balanced now because of Victini's ban, so everything's great.
In reply to the Rhyperior part, I have recently built a team that had Rhyperior in it. I was told to change it to Nidoqueen, which I did, but I changed back due to M-Pidge problems. But that's irrelevant.At least on paper, Rhyperior appears to be a very nice Mega Pidgeot check. I'm not experienced with it and haven't seen much of it on the ladder, but that obscurity is part of what makes it good in this context. If bulky rock-types like Rhyperior were more common in UU then Mega Pidgeot would respond by running HP Grass, but barring a substantial rise in Rhyperior's usage no one is going to do that. I'd really like to hear from people who have used Rhyperior as a Pidgeot check. What spread do you use, and what teammates do you use to help deal with the bulky waters that Rhyperior is going to lure?
As to the whole OHKO thing, while Pidgeot certainly doesn't OHKO the entire meta it does 2HKO a huge portion of it with Hurricane alone. People rightly have talked quite a bit about confusion, but I think it's equally important to emphasize the raw power of Hurricane. Even without any confusion at all, this thing still hits like a truck and nabs a huge number of relevant 2HKO's. This is what creates a powerful asymmetry; if the hax go against Pidgeot and he gets no relevant confusion then he still gets to deliver a viciously hard-hitting STAB move, but if hax go in his favor and the opponent hurts themselves in confusion they get nothing. The 1v1 scenario against Blastoise is actually a very good illustration of this:
252+ SpA Mega Blastoise Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mega Pidgeot: 266-314 (86.6 - 102.2%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Mega Pidgeot Hurricane vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Mega Blastoise: 165-195 (45.7 - 54%) -- 46.5% chance to 2HKO
It's slightly in favor of Pidgeot after accounting for the chance of confusion hax, but not by too much. Both players are taking a risk in this engagement. However, the Mega Pidgeot player is at an advantage here because he's better hedged. Even with the worst-case, Pidgeot is guaranteed at least one hit before getting OHKO'd by a high roll, but equally-likely is that Blastoise will suffer confusion and give Pidgeot the free turn it needs to eliminate Blastoise for free. Moreover, as a fast pokemon with access to reliable recovery Pidgeot is also in a better position to remain relevant after trading blows with a powerhouse like Blastoise in the average case scenario.
I'm a big fan of Mega Pidgeot; it's definitely my favorite mega in UU right now. While I do think it has some notable flaws, there's no question in my mind that it deserve the upcoming suspect.
You can also try out technician hp fire to bop forretress on the switch in when they try to be cheeky with overcoat.In reply to the Rhyperior part, I have recently built a team that had Rhyperior in it. I was told to change it to Nidoqueen, which I did, but I changed back due to M-Pidge problems. But that's irrelevant.
Rhyperior works really good as Pidge check, actually. I choose the max HP and 244 SpD version, since his SpD is weak. As of now, I haven't seen a single Pidgeot run any kind of HP, but if Rhyperior was used more, it would probably be.
252 SpA Mega Pidgeot Hidden Power Grass vs. 248 HP / 244 SpD Solid Rock Rhyperior: 231-273 (53.3 - 63%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
So that's that.
I've been running Roserade along with Rhyperior to beat bulky waters. I used to have a defensive SpD spiker version, but its now an offensive spiker so it's less passive. Roserade draws out M-Pidge quite easily, actually. I've seen many bulky waters paired with M-Pidge.
Now that M-pidge is everywhere, I run Spikes/Sleep Powder/Sludge Bomb/Giga Drain. Sleep Powder (if it hits) will get the burd good, while you can switch out to Rhyp or something else.
I'm pretty sure Shaymin works well with Rhyperior as well, since Seed Flare beats walls easier, as well as nailing other Pidge teammates, and having better all-around bulk than Roserade. But I choose Roserade due to Sleep Powder, which helps immensely.
Hit it up with the innovational No-Guard Zap Cannon or Blizzard imo (courtesy of Euphonos)Speaking of stuff to deal with M-Pidgeot, the only good thing about something so strong on the tier is that most of the time it forces you to think outside of the box a lot, looking at the teambuilder for options through many tiers. Ok, straight to the point:
Regice @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 248 HP / 176 Def / 84 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Protect
- Toxic / Thunder Wave
Cooler than cool. Niche as heck but I was looking for a Mega Pidgeot switch-in hence why I choosed this over mamo. The EV spread could be optimized but it serves as an all around special wall that can handle nidos beautifully, hydreigon and a good couple of special attackers which can otherwise be pretty threatening.
The defensive investment let it handle salamence really well also (if that salamence is life orb, thing are gonna get ugly) and stomach neutral physical types rather well. Protect for scouting purposes and you could surprise your standard mienshao, and the 4th movepool... it is a filler but toxic or thunder wave are the best fillers tbh. It demands a spinner and wish support, thankfully stuff like tentacruel and florges blend well with The Iceberg Pokemon. Isnt a sitting duck either with respectable 100 base spA.
Also, I dont like P2. sorry
no I meant #only90gxeCLUBMan I don't know I feel like 2650 is a good spot. It definitely felt harder than 2500 because that last 150 was brutal. I'm cool with 2650
Hit it up with the innovational No-Guard Zap Cannon or Blizzard imo (courtesy of Euphonos)
Gravity is better in that regard, though :(
It's for beating Pidgeot, and no guard affects the entire fieldMostly because Regice doesn't get No Guard.... which means I guess you're relying on Skill Swapping an opposing Doublade?
It's for beating Pidgeot, and no guard affects the entire field