If (multiple people please, that way I know it's not gale's partner keeping him safe, or mafia bussing him) could confirm that celever's statements about gale are true, please do.
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NOC Fire and Ice Mafia: Fire and Ice tie, the village loses.
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I thought about it and that does seem like the best strategy for them on face value. However, it's pretty high risk, because they're put in a really bad position should the villagers lynch the second mafia the next day.
This is a really weird conversation to be having, anyway. The mafia don't know who the others are so it's not exactly a conscious decision about whether they kill the other or not. Mafia will inevitably be trying to act town anyway, and that means scumhunting regardless. If they happen to actually hit another mafia, then good for them. And us, because we're taking out mafia! n_n
You do know that trying to act hard and offending the other players really isn't becoming of you? Especially because you didn't actually post a rebuttal to TIK's argument in the first place... I don't think you read his accusations properly, accusations.
My vote on Pokeguy was RVS, don't look into it...
And my vote on you is totally serious. What about my playstyle feels like the last time I was scum with you?
I wasn't referring to you there Celever :p
Now that I'm here and posting, my strongest townread so far is TIK.
Few people in this game have played closely with him before IIRC, especially not in NOC. I've got more than enough experience with him since we've allied with each other in a couple FFAs (or was it only one?)
Y'see, if I were mafia this might be funny.
I agree with you there at least n_n
Okay w/e, I don't mind if you guys want to Lynch me. Someone is supposed to be Mislynched on D1 as per the game's tradition ^_^. Let me know if you guys want to discuss something that I mentioned, otherwise that is all for me for D1.
I will change my vote to DLE, US or Celever if you guys are voting for one of them later on.
I will change my vote to DLE, US or Celever if you guys are voting for one of them later on.
The AtE is real.
Unlynch Haunted Diamond (still suspicious though, see you tomorrow)
Lynch Gale Wing Srock
That's 4 votes I believe? No one else vote him for now, we're getting kinda close to a majority.
What is AtE? And btw I am going to sleep.
Appeal to Emotion
That is ridiculous lol. Why will I do that? I just lost interest because no one is providing any solid thinking behind their Lynch votes. And are contradicting themselves.
Welcome to NOC Day 1, have fun (and don't forget the salt!)
Because people sometimes get dissuaded from voting a user if their emotions are played on, and there are a few newer players in this game so it might have even worked.
And villagers shouldn't feel defeatism. Generally defeatists end up as mafia upon flip.
Gale's reasoning is really poor and he is being really unhelpful but there is enough pressure on him for now, I will be very suspicious of anyone else jumping on the Gale wagon.
Da Letter El I need to see more from. I'm leaning scummy but am not confident in that read.
Celever is playing well but is also being a bit of a non-aggression player. He is trying to be helpful/smart without actually stepping on anyone's toes or being anything other than neutral, and that seems a bit scummy to me. I'd definitely like to see him accuse people more/who he thinks is mafia.
Yeti I'd like to see more from; she's been helpful so far but I'd think that a villageryeti would be posting a bit more.
TIK looks like noobtown to me. He has been all over the place and is just wrong with a lot of his reasoning, but I have a feeling that if he were mafia he would care more/put more effort into his posts and thought process.
Cancerous as I've already said I think is town. However, that being said, I would like to see more from him, as he didn't say much about the bandwagon on me other than 'I disagree with this' without actually telling people to stop voting, which could be seen as a mafia wanting the lynch to go through but not wanting to be blamed for the result. It read more to me like he was just focused on other things, however.
Hannahh and The Idiotic One are basically AFK. Would like their input at some point. PokeguyNXB isn't AFK but may as well be. Please provide more substantive contributions in your posts.
Haunted Diamond accusing Celever and buddying TIK is interesting. He feels like someone we definitely want to look into given he was also a bandwagoner on my lynch and has provided basically nothing useful up to now. I'd put my vote on him right now if I didn't want to force Gale to actually respond to points made against him and feel that maintaining L-3 pressure is the best way to do so.
For right now I want people's input on how scum-led they felt that the bandwagon developed on me earlier in the day was. Specifically, out of the obvious bandwagoners (acidphoenix, Gale Wing SRock, and Haunted Diamond), how many do you think are mafia? I sort of doubt that all three are but I'm thinking that both Gale and Haunted Diamond look really scummy and acidphoenix doesn't look much better, though he was also the first to unvote upon 'realizing his mistake' which could be looked at as both a positive or a negative depending on how competent you think he is (ie if he is competent that's a big negative, if he isn't then its a positive). Outside of that I want opinions on DLE, TIK, and Cancerous.
Finally, I support subbing the inactives if they don't post by tonight. That being said most of the posts made here have been in the last 15 or so hours so give them a bit to read through and contribute imo.
Da Letter El I need to see more from. I'm leaning scummy but am not confident in that read.
Celever is playing well but is also being a bit of a non-aggression player. He is trying to be helpful/smart without actually stepping on anyone's toes or being anything other than neutral, and that seems a bit scummy to me. I'd definitely like to see him accuse people more/who he thinks is mafia.
Yeti I'd like to see more from; she's been helpful so far but I'd think that a villageryeti would be posting a bit more.
TIK looks like noobtown to me. He has been all over the place and is just wrong with a lot of his reasoning, but I have a feeling that if he were mafia he would care more/put more effort into his posts and thought process.
Cancerous as I've already said I think is town. However, that being said, I would like to see more from him, as he didn't say much about the bandwagon on me other than 'I disagree with this' without actually telling people to stop voting, which could be seen as a mafia wanting the lynch to go through but not wanting to be blamed for the result. It read more to me like he was just focused on other things, however.
Hannahh and The Idiotic One are basically AFK. Would like their input at some point. PokeguyNXB isn't AFK but may as well be. Please provide more substantive contributions in your posts.
Haunted Diamond accusing Celever and buddying TIK is interesting. He feels like someone we definitely want to look into given he was also a bandwagoner on my lynch and has provided basically nothing useful up to now. I'd put my vote on him right now if I didn't want to force Gale to actually respond to points made against him and feel that maintaining L-3 pressure is the best way to do so.
For right now I want people's input on how scum-led they felt that the bandwagon developed on me earlier in the day was. Specifically, out of the obvious bandwagoners (acidphoenix, Gale Wing SRock, and Haunted Diamond), how many do you think are mafia? I sort of doubt that all three are but I'm thinking that both Gale and Haunted Diamond look really scummy and acidphoenix doesn't look much better, though he was also the first to unvote upon 'realizing his mistake' which could be looked at as both a positive or a negative depending on how competent you think he is (ie if he is competent that's a big negative, if he isn't then its a positive). Outside of that I want opinions on DLE, TIK, and Cancerous.
Finally, I support subbing the inactives if they don't post by tonight. That being said most of the posts made here have been in the last 15 or so hours so give them a bit to read through and contribute imo.
Feel free to look into me all you want, but look soon because i gotta go to bed in a few hours.
Lol
I unvoted because Sam doesn't generally tl;dr like that just to lie and it was early in the morning so I didn't actually want to read the tl;dr. Also a vote getting to 5 this early in the game is awful and I didn't want majority pushed over before any discussion happened. I still haven't read much this game and will make a substantive post later tonight.
I think I've been decisive enough with Haunted. I'd definitely like to see him lynched today. I don't find anyone else overly scummy, because while Gale on paper should be, his town meta is scummier than his scum meta... I'm just keeping some pressure on him so that he might actually be useful! People don't seem particularly keen on lynch HD for whatever reason which is why I changed my vote.
I think that it's entirely possible that both Gale and HD are scum, possibly even a scum team with each other. It's too early to create a definitive read on acidphoenix because none of us have played with him before. He seems quite inexperienced, though. I think that TIK is a town read, but he's not very good at being town.
What I do want to know is what about US' post made you vote for him, Da Letter El? The post where you lynched him didn't provide much reasoning at all.
I find celver scummy because he's playing just like the last game; starting the day off friendly with saying a bucnh of useless stuff and trying to be friendly, then trying to force a vote on inactive/noob users. Also he's been very defensive.
I read TIK's post and dle's post and felt convinced to lynch you for the moment. I had no idea about majority but then again i got on for like only 2 mintues last night so you can sue me for being inactive.
sam tbh there's not much to tl;dr about on day one. i am also pretty dead in the mornings and forgot to give my friend her keys back from my purse so i had to drive back and give them to her so it was a brief post.
something to note: after celever says he's settled on a HD lynch, HD immediately says he finds celever scummy. so they both find each other suspicious, huh?
the thing about the US bus that leads me to believe he's village is at least one mafia was bussing him i am sure, so that's one team he isn't on. however if sam is mafia i'd rather lynch him sooner than later, since he can be a very loud and directing force and there are few users who will stand up to him without fear of being lynched. how dumb his post was is out of character for him but i can't tell what way it goes - is he playing less brash and controlling than usual as a villager or because he's mafia and doesn't want to be THE center of things (so the other mafia can't kill him)?
i need to re-read gale's stuff as i read them on my phone but the dude's posts def seem ????? suspicious at the least.
something to note: after celever says he's settled on a HD lynch, HD immediately says he finds celever scummy. so they both find each other suspicious, huh?
the thing about the US bus that leads me to believe he's village is at least one mafia was bussing him i am sure, so that's one team he isn't on. however if sam is mafia i'd rather lynch him sooner than later, since he can be a very loud and directing force and there are few users who will stand up to him without fear of being lynched. how dumb his post was is out of character for him but i can't tell what way it goes - is he playing less brash and controlling than usual as a villager or because he's mafia and doesn't want to be THE center of things (so the other mafia can't kill him)?
i need to re-read gale's stuff as i read them on my phone but the dude's posts def seem ????? suspicious at the least.
I've been finding celever scummy since my first post.
DLE's post consisted of three words and a lynch vote. There is no point to lynching someone other than to A. Apply pressure and see how they react or B. Actually lynch them. Clearly since you literally posted nothing else and had no other thoughts outside of 'I'm convinced' when there are three other votes on me at the time you just wanted to lynch me based on one TIK post. That is at best horrendously poor play and at worst a clear mafia bandwagon which you're not even trying to defend.
Yeti said:
I have no idea why you think any of my posts have been 'dumb' or out of character or any less or more brash than I usually am. I am being slightly more controlling thus far than I would ideally like to be because DLE/you/anyone else hasn't provided any decent basis for discussion, but I am certainly not being less 'in the spotlight' than I ever am as a villager. I'd argue that I AM the center of things so far and I'm perfectly ok with that.
Finally, HD and Celever have found each other suspicious since the beginning of the game basically. Not sure what's so curious about that.
Oh one thing worth noting though is that Celever has been buddying me super hard while Haunted Diamond has been buddying TIK super hard, and both did so while the corresponding buddee was seen as generally town. Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if both were mafia but on different teams.
Yeti does make a good point in that there is 100% a mafia on the bus on me, there is just no way that so many villagers were that stupid. I'd be willing to bet almost anything that at least one of Gale/Haunted Diamond/Acidphoenix are mafia and most likely two or even all three are. Unless I see something really weird from someone else today I am unlikely to support a lynch outside of on one of those three users.
Yeti does make a good point in that there is 100% a mafia on the bus on me, there is just no way that so many villagers were that stupid. I'd be willing to bet almost anything that at least one of Gale/Haunted Diamond/Acidphoenix are mafia and most likely two or even all three are. Unless I see something really weird from someone else today I am unlikely to support a lynch outside of on one of those three users.
I defended you before people thought you were town, or at least the vocal people. That'd be a dumb move to make if I were mafia.
That's true about Haunted Diamond buddying TIK though.
Umm, I went to sleep and woke up with +3 more pages. I just finished half of page two and decided to tell you all: I am still alive, I haven't had time to check this today, and I'm going to finish reading pages 2, 3, and what we so far have of 4.
Also, I really need to start learning these names.
I will post again once I get caught up. (I'm EST so you all posted a ton at around 4-6 AM my time... Ciao until I finish reading.
Also, I really need to start learning these names.
I will post again once I get caught up. (I'm EST so you all posted a ton at around 4-6 AM my time... Ciao until I finish reading.
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