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I couldn't figure out how to make spoiler boxes, so here's the list.

Normal: Porygon-Z
Grass: Whimsicott
Fire: Chandelure
Water: Feraligatr
Bug: Galvantula
Poison: Seviper
Ice: Glaceon
Rock: Carbink
Ground: Krookodile
Fighting: Hariyama
Steel: Durant
Psychic: Malamar
Ghost: Dusclops
Dark: Spiritomb
Fairy: Granbull
Dragon: Noivern
Flying: Xatu
Electric: Heliolisk

All of these guys are Pokémon that I just like, for whatever reason.
 
Voyd211 said:
I couldn't figure out how to make spoiler boxes, so here's the list.
Normal: Porygon-Z
Grass: Whimsicott
Fire: Chandelure
Water: Feraligatr
Bug: Galvantula
Poison: Seviper
Ice: Glaceon
Rock: Carbink
Ground: Krookodile
Fighting: Hariyama
Steel: Durant
Psychic: Malamar
Ghost: Dusclops
Dark: Spiritomb
Fairy: Granbull
Dragon: Noivern
Flying: Xatu
Electric: Heliolisk

All of these guys are Pokémon that I just like, for whatever reason.
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Xatu, Heliolisk, Noivern, Durant, Galvantula and Porygon-Z can work but only on very specific teams.
Krookodile, Whimsicott and Chandelure are ok pokemon at best. They work on more teams than the mons above but they still aren't that great.
Feraligatr is good.

You can try playing lower tiers where pokemon like these are among the best in the tier.
UU: Ferligatr and Krookodile are some of the best pokemon in the tier there. Heliolisk, Chandelure and Whimsicott are good too. Galvantula and Noivern are viable but not as good as those 5.
RU: Durant is great there. Spiritomb and Granbull are also useful
NU: Hariyama, Xatu and Malamar are all great in NU

Dusclops, Carbink, Glaceon and Seviper are not really worth using. I don't play PU but can't remember those mons are ever worth using outside of some uncommon strategies.

Also you can use spoilers by using [.hide] and [./hide] (remove the dots)
 
Thank you kindly.

Hmm... it really feels like an Eviolited Dusclops could make a good PP staller (High defenses, Pressure, Protect and Spite), but I guess not.
 
Voyd211 said:
Thank you kindly.

Hmm... it really feels like an Eviolited Dusclops could make a good PP staller (High defenses, Pressure, Protect and Spite), but I guess not.
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The issue with that is its lack of reliable recovery combined with its passive nature, which makes it easily overwhelmed.
 
What kind of set would Xatu run in OU? gamer boy's mention of Xatu+Diancie in the metagame thread had me intrigued, so I tried to build a team around it yesterday. I didn't have very much success with it though. I ran the UU utility set with max defense, and it wasn't very effective because it had trouble blocking common rockers like Lando T and Heatran. The rise of Dark spam hurts it, and it can't wall keldeo or mega medicham like other bulky psychics.
 
Adagio said:
What kind of set would Xatu run in OU? gamer boy's mention of Xatu+Diancie in the metagame thread had me intrigued, so I tried to build a team around it yesterday. I didn't have very much success with it though. I ran the UU utility set with max defense, and it wasn't very effective because it had trouble blocking common rockers like Lando T and Heatran. The rise of Dark spam hurts it, and it can't wall keldeo or mega medicham like other bulky psychics.
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AM's core can be found here if you are interested.
 
Hi, several days ago I was using a banded crawdaunt with the move payback. Now according to bulbapedia it said that in 6th gen it reverted back to dealing 100 damage if the target switched out. However, on the simulator when I predicted Mega venusaur to come in, the effect did not happen.

Bulbapedia: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Payback_(move)

Example replay:http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-321927325

It happens on turn 20. The move crits for 67%, so realistically it would have done around 45%. It should have done somewhere around 80ish percent.

Is bulbapedia incorrect? Or is it the simulator has not updated completely? Please and thank you.
 
It would seem that bulbapedia is incorrect in this instance. For stuff like this, try using serebii or even the smogon dex, as bulbapedia isn't terribly reliable 100% of the time. The actual effect of Payback is that the power doubles when the foe makes a move, not including switching.
 
ssjjynx said:
It would seem that bulbapedia is incorrect in this instance. For stuff like this, try using serebii or even the smogon dex, as bulbapedia isn't terribly reliable 100% of the time. The actual effect of Payback is that the power doubles when the foe makes a move, not including switching.
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Thank you very much
 
Skarmory can whirlwind it out and takes next to nothing from its attacks even at +2. If you're looking for a more aggressive way to defeat it, defensive Lando-T can switch in on it and OHKO it with earthquake, although if it's holding the air ballooon it might be a little sketchy. Hope I helped
 
What are typically considered good Megas to run alongside a Sand Team, or at least the primary core (T-tar and Drill)?
 
pika pal said:
What are typically considered good Megas to run alongside a Sand Team, or at least the primary core (T-tar and Drill)?
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To add onto gamer boys post, Lopunny, Gardevoir, Altaria, Alakazam, Latias, Slowbro although I'm not too fond of his suggestion for M-Scizor on sand since it complicates teambuilding and makes you weak to a lot of waters.
 
Help with 6th for rain team?
I just can't decide on a 6th.. So far I have

Shuckle (sticky web stealth rocks)
Politied (offensive set)
Kabutops (swift swim physical)
Kingdra (swift swim special)
Ferrothorn (T wave whip wall)

So for the last spot Im stuck between
-defensive dragonite w/ hurricane/thunder
-specs noivern w/ hurricane
-Life orb toxicroak (sucker swords drain gunk)

Also hearing other ideas. Please explain why. Leaning towards croak because dry skin in 3v3 on this team could be dope, plus checks to other water types and grass.

Shuckles spot is kinda also up for debate, I've considered a tailwind suicide lead like aerodactyl with rocks, or volt switch/rapid spin forretress but I'm concerned that without speed support the latter could dissapoint my frogs.

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On a side note I don't consider this a simple question but I was redirected here by a mod. In my opinion threads like this (Post every question here) defeat their own purpose by making the entire thread cluttered with different discussions it becomes almost unreadable and really messes up the forum. It also makes it impossible to google a question thats already been asked on the forum and find the answer without scanning through dozens of unrelated posts. Furthermore it reduces the chance someones question will even be seen by someone with an answer because of flooding. guess that's just my opinion though.

---end disclaimer---
 
Tibryn said:
Help with 6th for rain team?
I just can't decide on a 6th.. So far I have

Shuckle (sticky web stealth rocks)
Politied (offensive set)
Kabutops (swift swim physical)
Kingdra (swift swim special)
Ferrothorn (T wave whip wall)

So for the last spot Im stuck between
-defensive dragonite w/ hurricane/thunder
-specs noivern w/ hurricane
-Life orb toxicroak (sucker swords drain gunk)

Also hearing other ideas. Please explain why. Leaning towards croak because dry skin in 3v3 on this team could be dope, plus checks to other water types and grass.

Shuckles spot is kinda also up for debate, I've considered a tailwind suicide lead like aerodactyl with rocks, or volt switch/rapid spin forretress but I'm concerned that without speed support the latter could dissapoint my frogs.

---disclaimer---
On a side note I don't consider this a simple question but I was redirected here by a mod. In my opinion threads like this (Post every question here) defeat their own purpose by making the entire thread cluttered with different discussions it becomes almost unreadable and really messes up the forum. It also makes it impossible to google a question thats already been asked on the forum and find the answer without scanning through dozens of unrelated posts. Furthermore it reduces the chance someones question will even be seen by someone with an answer because of flooding. guess that's just my opinion though.

---end disclaimer---
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Nah I saw the thread after it was locked. This is defo a simple question that could get a simple set of answers. Shuckle is super redundant on rain 'cause Swift Swim eliminates the need for webs anyway and Swift Swimmers are your key sweepers/wallbreakers, with anything else already being naturally fast or relying on priority regardless. If you want a Rocks user, I suggest either plugging it into Ferrothorn's set somewhere. This leaves 2 open slots. There are two routes I suggest going from there. The first would be to bring Klefki as a backup rain setter (replace Magnet Rise or something) to account for Politoed's frailty and LO Tornadus-T to act as something that can U-turn about and abuse the rain for 100% accurate Hurricanes. The second would be to bring Rain Dance Torn-I or Thundy and SD+U-turn Mega Scizor. Up to you which route you take here.

Anyway the reason this thread exists is because otherwise the main forum becomes cluttered and discussion-promoting topics get burried amongst the questions without actually increasing the chance of getting an answer. This is built on the premise that a question doesn't need an entire thread to host 1-3 responses, making threads like this useful for people trying to answer due to them all being in one place. I hope you understand the reasoning a little better now.
 
Tibryn said:
---disclaimer---
On a side note I don't consider this a simple question but I was redirected here by a mod. In my opinion threads like this (Post every question here) defeat their own purpose by making the entire thread cluttered with different discussions it becomes almost unreadable and really messes up the forum. It also makes it impossible to google a question thats already been asked on the forum and find the answer without scanning through dozens of unrelated posts. Furthermore it reduces the chance someones question will even be seen by someone with an answer because of flooding. guess that's just my opinion though.

---end disclaimer---
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Just going to address this real quick.
  1. "Simple Questions" may seem to only apply to one line questions but really it applies to any thread that would die out quickly and become dead to conversation. You may see an occasional thread that does not encourage continual conversation but pretty much every one of those has some kind of collected data or is a resource, or a project that doesn't work out.
  2. If you think this thread is chaotic (which it is, but quoting helps), imagine if every question in this thread was made a separate thread. Threads of real value such as Victim of the Week, Theorymon, and Checks Compendium would get lost in the shuffle quickly. So the chaos that is Simple Questions will exist in this or any Smogon forum but it's far better that it is contained to one thread instead of the entire subforum.
The end of your post was well thought out so I tried to give you a nice and clear response. Hope this helps explain things a little :)
 
Ferrothorn
Relaxed 168def 88 Sdef 252 hp
@Big root

Leech seed
Stealth rock
Spikes
Seed bomb

Arcanine
Impish 252 hp 248 def 8 att
Rocky helmet

Will o wisp
Morning sun
Flare blitz
Extreme speed/wild charge

Heracross
Jolly 252 att 252 spd 4 Sdef
@heracrosite

Close combat
Rock blast
Pin missle
Swords dance

Vaporeon
Bold 252 hp 252 Sdef 4 def
Leftovers

Scald
Wish
Protect
Haze

Hydreigon
Timid 252 Satt 252 spd 4 Sdef
Choice Scarf

Earth power
Dark pulse
Draco meteor/ dragon pulse
Flash cannon

Can anyone help me with a possible 6th Pokemon I hope this is the right place to ask
 
dall@$hamilton said:
Ferrothorn
Relaxed 168def 88 Sdef 252 hp
@Big root

Leech seed
Stealth rock
Spikes
Seed bomb

Arcanine
Impish 252 hp 248 def 8 att
Rocky helmet

Will o wisp
Morning sun
Flare blitz
Extreme speed/wild charge

Heracross
Jolly 252 att 252 spd 4 Sdef
@heracrosite

Close combat
Rock blast
Pin missle
Swords dance

Vaporeon
Bold 252 hp 252 Sdef 4 def
Leftovers

Scald
Wish
Protect
Haze

Hydreigon
Timid 252 Satt 252 spd 4 Sdef
Choice Scarf

Earth power
Dark pulse
Draco meteor/ dragon pulse
Flash cannon

Can anyone help me with a possible 6th Pokemon I hope this is the right place to ask
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At the moment you don't have any reliable way to deal with m-manectric, any form of hazard removal, or a life orb thundurus switch in, so something that covers all of that, like bulky latias maybe, might be a good idea. Latias would also act as a keldeo switch in, because specs secret sword can put in a lot of work against you, and scarf secret sword could potentially 6-0 you. You might like to change the Ferrothorn's item to leftovers, as big root only comes into play if leech seed is used, which isn't always guaranteed to happen. Also, leftovers is guaranteed to heal 6% each turn, whereas big root would only add maybe 3% best case scenario to the amount you'd heal from leech seed. Also, Power Whip is usually a better idea than Seed Bomb, as it gives Ferrothorn a better shot of one shotting things like keldeo and azumarill, although if the accuracy really does scare you seed bomb might suffice.

Btw, the latias set is

Life Orb
Levitate
Timid72 HP 184 SpA 252 SpeDefog, Draco Meteor, Psyshock/Thunderbolt, Healing Wish/Roost
 
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