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NOC a nice basic game of actual mafia - game over - won by the Mafia

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"I have absolutely no clue on King_."
"I don't know Haruno well enough nor seen his posts enough to decide on him
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Null reads on point, sandshrewz Top 4 scumreads?


"I don't have four scum reads, I only have one (sandshrewz)." I said Top 4, what are your thoughts on Tropius, Twin, Me, Former Hope, and Blazade?

Funny how Sandshrewz and Whydon basically have the same defense in "Mafia can just push on me during day when they want to".

Haha, I've been insisting since forever I don't scum read well anyway :p

I'll take some time to properly come up with reasoning/read if you really want a top4 but I think I can probably come up with like what top2-3 probably ? But first, gotta prepare for school so no proper post atm. Just a quick reply for now. Will you take it if I say I can only provide <4 ? Or do you want me to just have like 4 most suspicious regardless whether or not I think they're mafia? I think that's more straightforward.

Well it is most likely true that me and Whydon aren't ever getting killed by mafia because either we are mafia ourselves or it would be dumb for mafias to kill villagers who are already on the chopping block. However, idk why they killed Jalmont instead since he seemed to me that he was in a highly suspicious position. Maybe mafia thought otherwise or thought he had a role who knows. I would think that mafia is royally screwed if the game started with both me and whydon being mafia anyway lol. I'd say for 'balance' at most 1 of the mafia would be a less experienced reasons, though that argument is probably not very valid but w/evs.
 
Haha, I've been insisting since forever I don't scum read well anyway :p

I'll take some time to properly come up with reasoning/read if you really want a top4 but I think I can probably come up with like what top2-3 probably ? But first, gotta prepare for school so no proper post atm. Just a quick reply for now. Will you take it if I say I can only provide <4 ? Or do you want me to just have like 4 most suspicious regardless whether or not I think they're mafia? I think that's more straightforward.

Well it is most likely true that me and Whydon aren't ever getting killed by mafia because either we are mafia ourselves or it would be dumb for mafias to kill villagers who are already on the chopping block. However, idk why they killed Jalmont instead since he seemed to me that he was in a highly suspicious position. Maybe mafia thought otherwise or thought he had a role who knows. I would think that mafia is royally screwed if the game started with both me and whydon being mafia anyway lol. I'd say for 'balance' at most 1 of the mafia would be a less experienced reasons, though that argument is probably not very valid but w/evs.
"Or do you want me to just have like 4 most suspicious regardless whether or not I think they're mafia? I think that's more straightforward." <This
 
missed a day to school, if you want/need to sub me go for it. I'll be back in ~5 hours bc school once again. off the bat, Whydon/Sandshrewz is an interaction to keep our eyes on.
 
Sandshrewz is trying hard to push the fact that they're really bad at this game. 23 pages and no scumreads doesn't make you look like you're bad, it makes you look suspicious.
Aubisio
Da Letter El
Former Hope
Mithril
Haruno
King_
Blazade
sandshrewz
shubaka17
SomewhatOddish
tropiusisbae
Whydon

Thoughts on who is the most scummiest in this group
Empoof (6): Da Letter El, Haruno, Jalmont, King_, Mithril, Whydon
Whydon. Fucked up not once, but twice, blatantly admitted to following the crowd on their second choice. The whole "I'm bad at this game" attitude seems forced. Also, they accused me of doing the exact same thing they were doing, even though I kept my word about reserving judgement until I knew more.
 
Alternatively, mafians looking to throw us under the bus. That's just a possibility to consider though. I personally wouldn't throw us for a lynch if I was mafia unless they felt like there were no more likely lynch targets.

Also as for top 4 suspicious in my eyes, King_:

Aubisio: partly due to me being the first or one of the first to point out that while he posted, the posts didn't actually meant anything. It just seems very coincidental and very under the radar. Just feels weird but w/evs that's as much as I can say.
Haruno: I have no clue what he did in other games, but he does feel kinda disconnect or like subtle. Something like that. He's on many people's radar probably but hasn't really / couldn't really (?) do anything about that? Might be incorrect on that..
For now I don't have much of a feel for a third...
DLE: I'm just keeping in mind he's a likely mastermind. But I don't think it's worth testing or not whether that is the case for now. He's posted a lot and poking a lot, whereas I think he has been receiving less poke than he should be? IDK. It's more of a KIV thing that we should probably just leave him be and don't want to mess with chances that he's actually village. Not worth the risks.

If that means anything to you King_.
 
OK:

What's up with guilty/not guilty spam? Obviously some are fake.
I agree with Blazed that it is certainly not helpful.
vote aubisio

refused to commit to the empoof lynch and tried actively to be seen supporting a different lynch

Aubisio what did the lynch do to your scumreads? Were there any changes to it? Why or why not
I honestly didn't really actually see anyone as scummy. However, I felt that tropius might be saying that empoof was town a little bit too much.
FYI i wasn't 'supporting a different lynch,' explain that please

i think tropiusisbae remains at the same level of scum read as before because they might have been really town reading Empoof or trying to make themselves appear town when he flipped.

King i'll get to that in next post
 
Let's just keep subbing until none of the current playerlist was on the original one and we can beat Fire and Ice's s
SomewhatOddish pushing for both me and Sandshrewz makes me think he is village.

1. SomewhatOddish is a girl

2. This is a pretty bold statement. Again, why do you say pushes on you are coming from town? You're creating this tension where it's acceptable to just a priori consider you a mislynch and read scum based on who out of the many that slander your wishy washy play have an agenda with it.

3. If being scumread is understandable, can you try being a little less like how you think scum would behave?s

I really hate this shit especially when it comes from town so I'm curious about DLE's "let get back to this later"
 
1. SomewhatOddish is a girl

2. This is a pretty bold statement. Again, why do you say pushes on you are coming from town? You're creating this tension where it's acceptable to just a priori consider you a mislynch and read scum based on who out of the many that slander your wishy washy play have an agenda with it.

3. If being scumread is understandable, can you try being a little less like how you think scum would behave?s

I really hate this shit especially when it comes from town so I'm curious about DLE's "let get back to this later"

1. fml

2. If it's true that everyone has sandshrewz and I as scumread then there would be no point for mafia to push for us just yet. As sandshrewz stated we are both easy targets for mafia to throw under the bus later (or now, depending on whether or not they can find an easy lynch target). So from my point of view, it makes no sense for mafia to push for us now since they can essentially "save us for later". This made me question DLE as they said "let's save Whydon for later". SomewhatOddish pushing for us is sensible and I wouldn't expect it to come from a mafia since it's better for them to try and find some other type of target for this lynch.

3. I don't know what you mean by this. I don't really have a set idea of how mafia is playing this, other than the fact that they are probably going to push for some other person to get lynched.

Yes, I know that I can't prove my role to any of you. But from my point of view, I know that I'm probably only going to die in a lynch because mafia knows I've screwed up badly.
 
Aubisio
Da Letter El
Former Hope
Mithril
Haruno
King_
Blazade
sandshrewz
shubaka17
SomewhatOddish
tropiusisbae
Whydon

Thoughts on who is the most scummiest in this group
Empoof (6): Da Letter El, Haruno, Jalmont, King_, Mithril, Whydon
Whydon prolly. He has the double factor of playing so badly that all town seems like Mafia so we'd be inclined to lynch him if there are no options because he's not really giving us much of a choice. He also has Mafia realizing he's an easy bus if they keep him alive and him being alive will also increase suspicion on him especially if inspects are nerfed to shit.

So yeah he's either very blatantly Mafia or if not that, he might as well be Mafia since he seems like such an easy bus for them so anyone that tries to heavily push the whydon lynch could just be misdirecting town shrug
 
alright the heavy press on sandshrewz is odd, I'll go more in detail when I'm on desktop. Aubisio is flying right by the bell but not ringing anything as far as scum, again more later. and then DLE. I'm keeping that one in my pocket
 
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