Exactly, people seem to be assuming that the UBs somehow ARE humans because of the similarities, but they could just be connected to humans in some other way. Although Guzma's "in human form" quote is still somewhat suspicious.
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Pokemon Sun and Moon Demo Datamine + Full Game Leaks Collection (Read the OP)
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Exactly, people seem to be assuming that the UBs somehow ARE humans because of the similarities, but they could just be connected to humans in some other way. Although Guzma's "in human form" quote is still somewhat suspicious.
Just to be clear, does this mean that it it cannot be breed?
No telling yet. But the consensus is: doubtful
You can look at this two ways
One they made the shinies to allow them to be capturable but then again shiny victini has been programmed since gen 5 yet doesn't officially exist as its been shiny locked same goes for cosplay pikachu and zygarde
Lack of ash greninja is obvious it could be a complete oversight as game freak would think only one exists and since its an alt it maybe is failsafed to if shiny and battle bond activates it changes into default and if you hack one in it may freeze the game like shiny props in bw2
Another is that simply why not. I mean would you pass up recoloring a pokemon to be anything you want even if its going to be covered by shinylocks
no confirmation but since it's an alt forme in the same vein as cosplay pikachu and the likelihood of there being battle bond froakie being extremely low considering it can't even use the ability leaning heavily towards no.
The pokewood studio opponents had shinies too.
It's the fact that the UBs have dex pics that make it very likely theyre catchable even before the new ball was discovered.
It's the fact that the UBs have dex pics that make it very likely theyre catchable even before the new ball was discovered.
Aren't those pictures also used on the Pokémon Center healing screen? If so, then those pictures are* also failsafes.
EDIT: *"Could be" is the phrase I should have used.
EDIT: *"Could be" is the phrase I should have used.
TLDR for the text files in pure observation is
•There is 4 text prompts for wild, opposing, totem and your pokemon on each entry
•There is no trace of new move names outside of those on the first page
-this includes announced moves no names found for solar blade, core enforcer, sun steel strike etc.
• move use list is done in order of generation introduced
-as expected theres holes in the gen VII section
• there have been new text entries not seen in the game before
I can see a meme for 8032
Totem (Raticate) became ash-greninja
•There is 4 text prompts for wild, opposing, totem and your pokemon on each entry
•There is no trace of new move names outside of those on the first page
-this includes announced moves no names found for solar blade, core enforcer, sun steel strike etc.
• move use list is done in order of generation introduced
-as expected theres holes in the gen VII section
• there have been new text entries not seen in the game before
Totem (Raticate) became ash-greninja
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That's not quite how it works. If something is meant to be battle-able, then to prevent crashes in the event of erroneous or hacked code, then a shiny value has to be coded in. Shiny values are almost always created through an algorithm, so it's faster and easier to just let the code do the work than to make the shiny values the same colors as the normal values. Same reason all the shiny locked Legendaries have shiny forms.
Ash Greninja is a different case altogether. It's a separately coded, activated form. You can hack in a Shiny Greninja with Battle Bond, but once it transforms, the Ash Greninja will always still have the same colors.
Just a personal prediction: I think we will be capturing UBs, but not catching them like Pokemon. We'll likely be imprisoning the creatures and/or sending them back home, but unable to make them do battle on our behalf.
There's really no way to say for sure yet as a lowly consumer though.
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By all means please delete this or move this somewhere if it doesn't belong, but I just got a strange theory:
Game Freak seemingly did an amazing job at scrubbing this demo, so much about stats and moves were stubbed. They payed extreme attention to take them out. Yet inexplicably, "all" the pokemon's sprites and shinies were still in the files. Why would GF pay so much heed to stub spoilers, but somehow overlook the sprites? They were discovered after only a half a day or so after the demo released, even without prior datamining knowledge from ORAS, that seems a bit fishy.
The reason I put emphasis on the "all", was because of the general anonymity of the "events" in the SM demo, there's four events we have yet to discover, two of which involve the seaport, seeing off a girl heading away, and watching a shady deal. And the people at the seaport, mention far off places.
Seeing off the girl is the last event, its in November, on the 11th, a perfect week before the release of the full game. This event could lead to something interesting. What could it be? Well, Game Freak has been showing off an awful lot of pokemon haven't they?
The next bit of SM information is on the 27th, and following the previous cycle of news, there could be more on NOV 1st, and then on NOV 15th, that's 3 pieces of news, and, if you add the events in the demo that are yet to hit, that's another three, Thats a potential 6 pieces of news before the release.
"ALL" Pokemon were leaked? What if perhaps the demo has more to it than we think? What if the pokemon in data list are "supposed" to be there? Because they're "Supposed" to appear. What if the demo takes us somewhere? What if the demo shows us more "random" events. Like how Alolan Dugtrio was seen. Have any of the data miners even seen what the other planned events are going to be?
tl;dr "The pokemon discovered in the data mine are in the demo, because they're "set" to appear at later dates due to the massive amount of pokemon already shown off by Game Freak, the future date events will be how you see them."
(This theory is already a bit debunked with the Ultra beasts in the data as well, why the fuck would they show so many in a demo.)
Game Freak seemingly did an amazing job at scrubbing this demo, so much about stats and moves were stubbed. They payed extreme attention to take them out. Yet inexplicably, "all" the pokemon's sprites and shinies were still in the files. Why would GF pay so much heed to stub spoilers, but somehow overlook the sprites? They were discovered after only a half a day or so after the demo released, even without prior datamining knowledge from ORAS, that seems a bit fishy.
The reason I put emphasis on the "all", was because of the general anonymity of the "events" in the SM demo, there's four events we have yet to discover, two of which involve the seaport, seeing off a girl heading away, and watching a shady deal. And the people at the seaport, mention far off places.
Seeing off the girl is the last event, its in November, on the 11th, a perfect week before the release of the full game. This event could lead to something interesting. What could it be? Well, Game Freak has been showing off an awful lot of pokemon haven't they?
The next bit of SM information is on the 27th, and following the previous cycle of news, there could be more on NOV 1st, and then on NOV 15th, that's 3 pieces of news, and, if you add the events in the demo that are yet to hit, that's another three, Thats a potential 6 pieces of news before the release.
"ALL" Pokemon were leaked? What if perhaps the demo has more to it than we think? What if the pokemon in data list are "supposed" to be there? Because they're "Supposed" to appear. What if the demo takes us somewhere? What if the demo shows us more "random" events. Like how Alolan Dugtrio was seen. Have any of the data miners even seen what the other planned events are going to be?
tl;dr "The pokemon discovered in the data mine are in the demo, because they're "set" to appear at later dates due to the massive amount of pokemon already shown off by Game Freak, the future date events will be how you see them."
(This theory is already a bit debunked with the Ultra beasts in the data as well, why the fuck would they show so many in a demo.)
The second text file rip has the other events won't spoil but your gonna be disappointed
I don't think so. But if nothing else, it's a nice hypothesis.
Damn welp there goes that, again, it was a bit of a reach with the UB's, but could you clarify about the text rips? Is it a massive collection the main dataminers will be releasing? Or is it something already found that hasn't been talked about?
Its in the op comment theres two a text rip and a dialogue rip
...What are you saying? Shiny colors are generated? Sounds made-up.
Shiny-locked legends have shiny colors because they plan on distributing them specifically because they shiny locked them.
As far as the game's concerned, forms are basically separate pokemon. You can directly hack Mega evolved pokemon into your party easily. I'd bet the same will happen to Ash Greninja before the real game even releases. Like I said before, there's nothing stopping you from flipping a byte and making him "shiny" and there's no prevention or failsafes in place.
Like they'd ever let you catch them and take them away...
as someone pointed out in my gfaqs thread, 'The battlefield turned weird!' might be a setup for UBs.
The fact that it's under Totem summoning text also makes it possible that the UBs are mid/lategame ala-totem fights as well.
The fact that it's under Totem summoning text also makes it possible that the UBs are mid/lategame ala-totem fights as well.
...what?
- 6th gen is the only one to introduce exactly 3 mythicals, 4th gen had Shaymin/Manaphy/Darkrai/Arceus/(Phione if you want to include that thing) and 5th gen had Victini/Keldeo/Meloetta/Genesect.
- Magearna is also a Mythical, and if the 2 form(e)s of Magearna are not changeable they can easily stretch that to fill whatever void a 3rd mythical would. We've also got 6 Hatchus that might be event only, plus shiny versions of whatever shiny-locked legendaries they get to next.
- Only 2 "box legends" is strange, but no stranger than Zygarde not getting his own game. 6th gen already broke the "sequel with 3rd legend" pattern, and SM have already broken many of the patterns that have existed even longer (R.I.P. TM28 Dig).
With the point of never releasing a shiny spiky ear pichu had 1 but was locked out and he never returned
Same is happening to cosplay pikachu
The Azure Flute was also set to be distributed but never was for unexplained reasons.
More likely those ones existed in case they wanted to distribute them, rather then just copying the regular colors over and giving them basically nothing to distribute even if they did change their minds.
See the problem with that is azure flute was released in japan but shiny pichu wasn't released anywhere it can be said that they intended to but it's unlikely also victini's shiny has existed since gen 5 yet they have not allowed you to catch it that a long time to just hold a shiny form and not release unless it isn't meant to be released
What if you can't catch the UBs and that the new ball is going to be used by an enemy character to catch a UB think about it in the demo the show off the fact trainers no longer just have entire teams in pokeballs heck a grunt has a yungoos in a nest ball and the new ball can't be bought or sold
Not saying this is confirmed as I have little information to base this off of but so does everyone else at the moment just bringing up the concept to see if it can be toyed around with and what that could mean for the plot if it did
Not saying this is confirmed as I have little information to base this off of but so does everyone else at the moment just bringing up the concept to see if it can be toyed around with and what that could mean for the plot if it did
And yet it's true. Did you honestly expect that Game Freak had people painstakingly swapping the palettes of every Pokemon? That's too time consuming and expensive to dedicate their resources on. Look at shiny sprites again. Virtually any Pokemon with the same base color has the same palette swap, as the games developed better graphics and more colors, palettes diversified so in earlier generations you see a lot more of it. Even still, Ferrothorn's spikes and Trevenant's leaves have the exact same green and both turned the same red in the shiny versions. There are a few exceptions where Game Freak wanted specific palettes or specific colors on the palette to remain the same, but those remain rare.
You've got your correlation backwards. They don't shiny lock Legendaries for giving away shinies at events. They give away shinies at events because they shiny locked the Legendaries. 13 Legendaries and Mythics distributed as shiny. Out of a total of very nearly 50 (not including Sun and Moon). If they were shiny locking just to distribute the shinies later, we'd be seeing a much wider spread distribution.
Technically nothing's stopping you from doing the deed... but if you hack Greninja as a base form and "flip the shiny switch" you'll crash your game like when people hacked Pokestar Studios' opponents and tried to flip that switch or tried to catch them. Or there will be an asset added to the main games to prevent that from happening.
Well, you can't buy or sell a Master Ball either.
Something has been bothering me about Crabrawler and it's supposed evolution. If you recall, Crabrawler was shown at Worlds, and in the video, it was shown battling prominent Pokemon that have been used in the VGC and knocking them out. So, why did they showcase an NFE at Worlds and not it's evolved form? Is Crabrawler that strong or was Pokemon just playing it up? Maybe Crabrawler doesn't evolve and it has a different relationship with "Yeti Crab", but at the same time, it sure does look like it evolves into it. But, if they are separate, that bumps up all the non-evolving Pokemon up even more and it just makes the Gen. 7 Pokemon list look even weirder...
I got to be honest, I'm not really into believing conspiracy theories, but this whole datamine has just been bizarre; I mean even Serebii thinks so too. That coupled with how the Alolan dex looks now, I just can't shake the feeling there's something more going on here. I don't now, this is probably it and I'm definitely not getting my hopes up, but I'll tell you now, I won't be shocked if they pull a "Surprise bitch!" and reveal some that weren't in this.
I got to be honest, I'm not really into believing conspiracy theories, but this whole datamine has just been bizarre; I mean even Serebii thinks so too. That coupled with how the Alolan dex looks now, I just can't shake the feeling there's something more going on here. I don't now, this is probably it and I'm definitely not getting my hopes up, but I'll tell you now, I won't be shocked if they pull a "Surprise bitch!" and reveal some that weren't in this.
This could be a Scyther/Scizor scenario where one is technically the evolution of the other and has a different typing but both share the same base stat total, just rearranged.
Weirdness. Yesterday when I tried the catching challenge all I could find was Pikipek, Yungoos, and the occasional Rockruff. No Pikachu at all in like 30 encounters. Today, when I tried it again, I find Pikachu with Pikipek and Rockruff. No Yungoos at all, even though they were the most common yesterday.
Is there a code in the demo that governs the rarity of the Pokemon in the same area depending on the date or other variables? This is very bizarre.
EDIT: And seriously, now it is just a swarm of Pikachu in the grass. Is it a case of "when it rains, it pours", or is there some sort of coding in the demo that allowed this to happen?
Is there a code in the demo that governs the rarity of the Pokemon in the same area depending on the date or other variables? This is very bizarre.
EDIT: And seriously, now it is just a swarm of Pikachu in the grass. Is it a case of "when it rains, it pours", or is there some sort of coding in the demo that allowed this to happen?
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