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NOC Paranoia Mafia Game Over - Mafia Wins

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I don't see a reason it can't be both FH and aubisio.

I would prefer to take out aubisio, however, as their play has been so thoroughly anti-town that they either have to be scum, or have to be revealed as so ghastly a presence that they are henceforth banished from these lands.
 
I'm less confident in an Aubisio vote because of how stupid and unpredictable they've been, and the post I keep mentioning on d3 that scared me into thinking they were oblivious town. I'm not opposed to switching onto them but I'd really rather vote former.
 
wait

honestly i think even someone with as a low a brain cell count as Aubisio wouldn't be stupid enough to literally taunt players who are more than capable of lynching him as scum

on the otherhand just from looking at his profile he joins a shit ton of stuff on smogon(tours, mafia games etc) and ends up forgetting about them/giving up on them, so that raises points

A. as town has he "given up" on this game without asking to be subbed(lurking/shitposting/hardly posting)

B. is he scum that feels he's obligated to complete the game without being subbed?

C. he's being a general idiot?

i dont know

thats why im apprehensive of lynching him over fh, who in my pov im 100% sure is scum

Unvote lynch Former Hope
 
Hawkie said:
wait

honestly i think even someone with as a low a brain cell count as Aubisio wouldn't be stupid enough to literally taunt players who are more than capable of lynching him as scum
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in this i mean i think he'd as least have enough of a sense of self-preservation to lay low while the attention was becoming slowly more focused on former, it doesn't make sense to leave notifications on 2 other players when they're annoyed at you for never posting
 
Borath the Oscillator said:
Stop the presses.

What post on D3?
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Can't link atm because mobile, I was expecting to die and posting to try and make sure town came ahead from my death, and aubisio posting saying that if I was lynched he should be the lynch the following day not seeming to comprehend that if he was town that would probably lose us the game (this was before the no night kill n3)
 
we cant exclude someone from playing because they aren't good, he hasnt done stuff to this level before I believe
he also plays oc games fine I think its this specific one thats creating issues
 
does Aubisio seem like the type that would "try out" a playstyle like this? its very much mindgame-oriented if it is a playstyle and not just being an idiot and suits the sort of person that enjoys other people's frustration on his behalf

i dont really know him well outside of here and a few games of ps mafia
 
i honestly didn't want my posts to incriminate him less i just want more discussion based around him before i'm comfortable with lynching him because we really fucking need a scumflip
 
im starting to lean on the idea that scumteam is twin+Former Hope/Aubisio/OM Room , I hate the very idea of host meta but its information we can use and im desperate, remember when josh asked about the scumteam being "selected?" he got an answer that in his opinion incriminated a "good" player. I dont know much about Flyhn and would like someone to post more about his experience but if what i assume is correct he wouldn't have been selected as the pillar of a scumteam. Aubisio(obviously not), this leaves either Former Hope OR twin as the pillar with one of Aubisio/OM Room as the partner OR Former Hope AND twin dependent on how the host rates former's game

i'd honestly be ok if we discussed and went ahead of with a twin lynch as imo it seems more likely that he'd at least be part of the team whereas for former/aubisio/OM Room they could all be interchanged for each other

however i really want to trust in my since-D1 read and lynch former my head is so fucked up right now
 
a twin lynch is something that could be discussed but im really not comfortable with doing it now, esp given how close to dl we are.
ah there he is
a sub for aubisio would be nice but the issue isnt the players needing subs its the fact that there are no subs to be found
 
Twin has scum equity when falling back on host meta, and his contributions have been almost solely directed at tunneling the living shite out of Tex.

However in italics.

The host has stated they selected the roles carefully. This does not guarantee that they put a good player on the scum team. Two mediocre players can still easily win with this setup. A superb scum player wins in this setup 99% of the time.

We shouldn't allow host meta to be a factor here. It's too fraught with WIFOM and "guess what I'm thinking!" to be of any use.
 
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