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Borath the Oscillator said:
As for 2) and 3), if 2) is true I'd be absolutely ecstatic and if 3) is true... ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... <somebodyshrugginginacomedicway.gif>

I'd rather not make pre-flip associatives but we've been rocking the idea of a twin + aubisio team for a while with very little pushback from either. Obviously if we get aubisio and they're scum, people are going to want to lynch twin. That much is just fact.

rssp1, twin, and Texas are the only three I can see being partners with aubisio. All of them have various merits as to why I wouldn't want them lynch but I'll obviously need to get over it for one of them.

One issue is I'm lazy so I'm not going to put in the work right now just in case we're wrong and my efforts were in vain.
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This post lost focus somewhere along the way.

Basically the only busser could be Texas now that rssp1 has unvoted.
 
Gale Wing Srock said:
rssp1 : This is an example of Scum confidence, which is something they would unconsciously exhibit right now.

With almost half of town being wiped out its common to have townies disheartened. Scums would be the confident bunch in this case.
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Lol dude have you seen my previous posts at all. The only reason I'm confident right now is because I think I've reasoned out the winning answer. Prior to coming up with what I currently have I'd say I've been pretty damn desolate lol
 
Vote Count 5.2

Aubisio (3): Asek, Texas Cloverleaf, Borath the Oscillator
Texas Cloverleaf (3): aubisio, thetwinmasters, Gale Wing Srock
Thetwinmasters (1): Hawkie
Not Voting (1): rssp1

8 alive. Deadline in 2 hours.

As of now planning on subbing out Aubisio at end of cycle should he live.
 
Ha ha ha Rssp1, caught you!

So here is my thought process:

Reading the game I found that scum are in a great position: all they have to do is not screw up massively, be active enough to not be in the spot light and ride the chaotic wave with some manipulation.

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Prime Assumption : Scums would most probably be confident on day 5 with all of them alive.

After reading the below post
rssp1 said:
Read through the entire game again, probably won't do that any more.
  1. Dentricos
    I feel like he's doing a good job generating his own content and putting out opinions even if others may disagree with him. That along with his posting style makes me think he's town.
  2. Haruno
    He's posting little to no reasoning for any of his lynches, and is basically refusing to talk about the game aside from that. idt Haruno has ever played like this before, so maybe he's trying a new playstyle or something. Regardless, the way he's currently playing is v low effort and im inclined to call it scummy but the little he has posted hasnt been terrible in terms of scumminess so not sure how to feel.
  3. Josh
    The betathunder defense was probably entirely due to them being friends. I feel like he brings up good points and explains them well while not really tunneling on anyone. He seems town to me.
  4. Hawkie
    Still hasnt done much that would indicate alignment. He's playing like he always does, although the tunnel on former is kinda bad, I suppose.
  5. rssp1
  6. Thetwinmasters
    I feel like a lot of twin's content is questioning people which isnt that good, but I remember him having brought up a lot of content on his own so he seems fairly townie to me.
  7. Walrein
    I actually think walrein is slightly scummy for exactly one reason: almost all of his posts have been responding to people instead of him generating his own content/scumreads/etc. That's a thing that a lot of scum townleader-esque people do, so that doesnt really sit well w/ me.
  8. Former Hope
    He's kind of similar to hawkie in that he's only focusing on a couple things, but looking back his posts are a lot townier than I thought before. I still really dislike how he wants to lynch inactives though.
  9. OM room
    post
  10. Aubisio
    post more
  11. Flyhn
    Playing like he always does, although he has a lack of time which I can understand. The little he has posted seems townish.
  12. Texas Cloverleaf
    Nullread here, although texas has a lot of content it doesnt really push me to think he's town or scum. He has said some strange things and defended them well when questioned which means I ought to townread him, but I don't. I dunno.
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I understood that Rssp1 is a player who would be willing to put in some work if there is an opportunity + motivation.

Player Fact : Subs in and provides a full list of players with reads.

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After I placed my vote on him, I have been constantly trying to engage him, and after #1362 I wanted to check out his motivational level at current state of the game. So I voted Texas and told that I will build a case on him (Texas), when actually I wanted to build a case on Rssp1 if he showed more scummy signs.

rssp1 said:
yea but in case you couldnt tell i'm having a hard time finding scum traits in any of the remaining players aside from aubisio
there's a reason i was asking for who people would lynch if they could not lynch aubisio today
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Player Fact : He claims he is motivated, but has met a deadend in his scum search and that is the reason he is asking for alternative lynch options other than aubisio.

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rssp1 said:
lmao at borath's post thats a 10/10 meme


glad im not the only one then
I get what you're saying, actually
Unlynch Aubisio
not gonna lynch texas but I do need to entertain the possibility of him being scum a bit more


I mean after seeing more townie than scummy characteristics from the entire playerbase i'm having a hard time figuring out who is scum.
i'm not very motivated for the game atm bc im attempting (and failing) to study, although I probably should have put my energy into that a while ago
i've gone through the game 3-4 times now so not really a fan of doing that again
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Gets convinced that Aubisio may not be scum for lurking, noncontent posting, defeatism and doesn't challenge my post that its a bs reason to vote some one. (#1376)

When it actually is a legitimate reason to vote someone, just not as much with six down on day 5 (from town perspective).

Player Fact: Agreeable with a player who has replaced into a slot that has been lurking, doesn't challenge an exaggerated statement for fear of being targeted instead of Texas Cloverleaf (scum motivation). Claimed that he is motivated for scum hunting (#1377) but turns back on his thoughts after the prime assumption is stated (#1384).

Thus exhibiting inconsistency and scum motivation to change statements for fear of being targeted. He literally adopted the town sentiment of the prime assumption after it was stated.

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After all this, when an opportunity for analysis was presented to him, he just responded to it from the first things that came to his mind (fence sitting), instead of taking up the challenge and doing some analysis of the wagon on Aubisio.
rssp1 said:
I'm gonna assume you're asking me for my opinion instead of saying i'm bussing him
if so, I think texas is a possible busser for aubisio, I don't see how asek or I are bussing him unless you're saying multiple failed attempts to lynch him are a bus
borath is too new so I can't go off of previous actions there, but his reasons for lynching aubisio seem logical so I doubt he's bussing him.
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Player Fact: Exhibiting relaxed and careless attitude, which is expected of a player who is playing scum based on the Prime Assumption.

Aka Rssp1 is scum this game!

Unlynch

Lynch Rssp1

Lgi guys!

p.s: He could be highlighting Texas because of an earlier link that was raised tying them up together because of the whole Twin and Texas TvT that he was going on about (he also changed that stance after some push).
 
Gale Wing Srock said:
Ha ha ha Rssp1, caught you!

So here is my thought process:

Reading the game I found that scum are in a great position: all they have to do is not screw up massively, be active enough to not be in the spot light and ride the chaotic wave with some manipulation.

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Prime Assumption : Scums would most probably be confident on day 5 with all of them alive.

After reading the below post
I understood that Rssp1 is a player who would be willing to put in some work if there is an opportunity + motivation.

Player Fact : Subs in and provides a full list of players with reads.

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After I placed my vote on him, I have been constantly trying to engage him, and after #1362 I wanted to check out his motivational level at current state of the game. So I voted Texas and told that I will build a case on him (Texas), when actually I wanted to build a case on Rssp1 if he showed more scummy signs.



Player Fact : He claims he is motivated, but has met a deadend in his scum search and that is the reason he is asking for alternative lynch options other than aubisio.

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Gets convinced that Aubisio may not be scum for lurking, noncontent posting, defeatism and doesn't challenge my post that its a bs reason to vote some one. (#1376)

When it actually is a legitimate reason to vote someone, just not as much with six down on day 5 (from town perspective).

Player Fact: Agreeable with a player who has replaced into a slot that has been lurking, doesn't challenge an exaggerated statement for fear of being targeted instead of Texas Cloverleaf (scum motivation). Claimed that he is motivated for scum hunting (#1377) but turns back on his thoughts after the prime assumption is stated (#1384).

Thus exhibiting inconsistency and scum motivation to change statements for fear of being targeted. He literally adopted the town sentiment of the prime assumption after it was stated.

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After all this, when an opportunity for analysis was presented to him, he just responded to it from the first things that came to his mind (fence sitting), instead of taking up the challenge and doing some analysis of the wagon on Aubisio.


Player Fact: Exhibiting relaxed and careless attitude, which is expected of a player who is playing scum based on the Prime Assumption.

Aka Rssp1 is scum this game!

Unlynch

Lynch Rssp1

Lgi guys!

p.s: He could be highlighting Texas because of an earlier link that was raised tying them up together because of the whole Twin and Texas TvT that he was going on about (he also changed that stance after some push).
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i've been motivated for a majority of the entire game but irl things, along with how town is doing, along with the fact that I have no idea who scum are, are causing me to be less motivated.
your fourth point is dumb lol I looked at each person on the wagon and said why or why not I thought they would be bussing
you're also missing the reason i'm townreading you (but im not really sure what that has to do with me being scum anyways)
I was not convinced that aubisio wasnt scum for the reasons I provided, but I unlynched to consider voting texas for the reasons you provided.
 
Gale Wing Srock said:
Ha ha ha Rssp1, caught you!

So here is my thought process:

Reading the game I found that scum are in a great position: all they have to do is not screw up massively, be active enough to not be in the spot light and ride the chaotic wave with some manipulation.

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Prime Assumption : Scums would most probably be confident on day 5 with all of them alive.

After reading the below post
I understood that Rssp1 is a player who would be willing to put in some work if there is an opportunity + motivation.

Player Fact : Subs in and provides a full list of players with reads.

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After I placed my vote on him, I have been constantly trying to engage him, and after #1362 I wanted to check out his motivational level at current state of the game. So I voted Texas and told that I will build a case on him (Texas), when actually I wanted to build a case on Rssp1 if he showed more scummy signs.



Player Fact : He claims he is motivated, but has met a deadend in his scum search and that is the reason he is asking for alternative lynch options other than aubisio.

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Gets convinced that Aubisio may not be scum for lurking, noncontent posting, defeatism and doesn't challenge my post that its a bs reason to vote some one. (#1376)

When it actually is a legitimate reason to vote someone, just not as much with six down on day 5 (from town perspective).

Player Fact: Agreeable with a player who has replaced into a slot that has been lurking, doesn't challenge an exaggerated statement for fear of being targeted instead of Texas Cloverleaf (scum motivation). Claimed that he is motivated for scum hunting (#1377) but turns back on his thoughts after the prime assumption is stated (#1384).

Thus exhibiting inconsistency and scum motivation to change statements for fear of being targeted. He literally adopted the town sentiment of the prime assumption after it was stated.

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After all this, when an opportunity for analysis was presented to him, he just responded to it from the first things that came to his mind (fence sitting), instead of taking up the challenge and doing some analysis of the wagon on Aubisio.


Player Fact: Exhibiting relaxed and careless attitude, which is expected of a player who is playing scum based on the Prime Assumption.

Aka Rssp1 is scum this game!

Unlynch

Lynch Rssp1

Lgi guys!

p.s: He could be highlighting Texas because of an earlier link that was raised tying them up together because of the whole Twin and Texas TvT that he was going on about (he also changed that stance after some push).
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So why did he unvote aubisio?
 
What I mean is what motivation does scum!rssp1 have to not see the aubisio lynch to its end?
Da Letter El said:
Vote Count 5.2

Aubisio (3): Asek, Texas Cloverleaf, Borath the Oscillator
Texas Cloverleaf (3): aubisio, thetwinmasters, Gale Wing Srock
Thetwinmasters (1): Hawkie
Not Voting (1): rssp1

8 alive. Deadline in 2 hours.

As of now planning on subbing out Aubisio at end of cycle should he live.
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Also is this mod spew?

Please tell me it's not mod spew.
 
idk what mod spew is but dle typically posts vote counts near dl so we know whats going on (and because we generally request it)
if you're talking about mod interference in the sense of "he's being subbed out" which could make him a less attractive lynch (perhaps something suggested by a scum partner?) then idk
 
Gale Wing Srock said:
Aubisio (3): Asek, rssp1, Texas Cloverleaf

1.) Every single scum is voting him right now - Its pretty possible.

2.) We can actually afford another mislynch - I don't get this

3.) twin is scum and hasn't been online, and his scum buddy is voting aubisio - Possible

4.) Scum are complete buffoons, and I mean complete buffoons - Irrelevant (could be a sane strategy)

Motivation != Confidence
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And how do you know we can afford another mislynch?
 
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