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NOC Paranoia Mafia Game Over - Mafia Wins

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me too
i've played in games where extends have happened and games where extends didnt happen when host wasnt there by dl so I wasnt sure about which would happen & just hoped it was the first one
 
rssp1 said:
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Hawkie - You thought twin was town at the end of the previous day although you had been scumreading him for a good majority of it. What spurred this sudden change, and why did you believe it to be true? Does Texas flipping town change this new read? If so, why?
Thetwinmasters - Given that Texas flipped town, where are your reads at now? A lot of your content was based around your scumread on texas, so i'm curious as to what you're thinking now.
Borath the Oscillator - What happened at deadline? You were reading the thread for around 30 minutes 1-2 hours before deadline, but only showed up 10 minutes before deadline and basically just asked for a summary and then didn't post anything else (I think).
Gale Wing Srock - We have a lot of time now, so could you elaborate on your cases on both twin and Hawkie? We ran out of time so there really wasnt enough time to discuss it.
Asek - In terms of reads, we didnt get to hear too much from you near the end of the day. Has the end of the day + the flip changed your ideas on people, or do you still stick by your scumreads (which I think is just me now)?
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I want to hear what the non voters have to say first
 
Sup.

Didn't vote at EoD for a variety of reasons. Confusion, chaos, busy with other things, etc. I've got all sorts of excuses, but nobody cares about that, least of all me.

Probably would've voted for Asek if I'd had the luxury of mulling it over but whatevs. Wouldn't have voted for Tex, at that point I'd decided rssp1 was townie enough to clear Tex of suspicion based on my fancy associative read.

Asek seems like a fine avenue to pursue still. Not scumreading twin but would love to hear where he's at.

Sorry for my trash activity all around, lost some WIM recently and haven't been putting in what I'd call an acceptable amount of effort.
 
rssp1 said:
Alright fair enough
What exactly changed your mind? You seemed to be fairly sure that Texas/I were scum mid-day. Also, why would you have voted Asek?
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You changed my mind. If you're scum, you've done an excellent job at fooling me. Since my read depended on both of you to be scum, one of you being townread by me made the whole thing fall apart.

As for Asek, I may be a hypocrite for saying this, but his level of involvement failed to impress. I don't think scum are found in you, Hawkie, or Gale, so that would leave twin and Asek.
 
alright. What specifically did I do that changed your mind?
Asek's level of involvement has been low (or at least he claims) due to him being busy with irl things. Given that that has also been the case for you in the previous day, what differentiates the two of you? (Yes I know you already said you may be a hypocrite for saying his inactivity is bad, but i'd still like to know why you think your inactivity is different than his here) If you don't think there's a difference, are your remaining scum reads just based on PoE?
 
For you, you haven't really done anything new, you've simply continued to be active and engaged at all times, constantly pushing for more activity and spurring conversation with a clear drive to win. In the end, wagonomics couldn't make me forget that.

As for me, and Asek, the difference is simple, really.

There isn't one.

But this hypocrisy isn't something I feel particularly inclined to let go of.

Essentially PoE has determined my remaining scum reads. When it gets this close to the wire, things become simplified somewhat.
 
Borath the Oscillator said:
Sup.

Didn't vote at EoD for a variety of reasons. Confusion, chaos, busy with other things, etc. I've got all sorts of excuses, but nobody cares about that, least of all me.

Probably would've voted for Asek if I'd had the luxury of mulling it over but whatevs. Wouldn't have voted for Tex, at that point I'd decided rssp1 was townie enough to clear Tex of suspicion based on my fancy associative read.

Asek seems like a fine avenue to pursue still. Not scumreading twin but would love to hear where he's at.

Sorry for my trash activity all around, lost some WIM recently and haven't been putting in what I'd call an acceptable amount of effort.
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If you were sure that texas was town at the time why didn't you put a vote on me or asek to save him
 
pancake (3): rssp1, Texas Cloverleaf, Hawkie
Former Hope (2): Dentricos, Josh
Texas Cloverleaf (2): Walrein, thetwinmasters
Blazade (1): pancake
Josh (1): Haruno
Not voting: OM Room/Beta, Aubisio, Blazade(voted Beta), FH(voted Beta), Flyhn(Voted Haruno)

Haruno (4): Walrein, Texas Cloverleaf, rssp1, Dentricos
Texas Cloverleaf (3): thetwinmasters, Former Hope, Haruno
Former Hope (1): Hawkie
Aubisio (1): OM Room
Walrein (1): Josh
Not voting (2): Aubisio, Flyhn

Dentricos (4): rssp1, Walrein, Former Hope, Asek
Texas Cloverleaf (2): thetwinmasters, Aubisio
Former Hope (2): Texas Cloverleaf, Hawkie
Aubisio (1): Dentricos
Not voting (1): OM Room

Former Hope (3): Texas Cloverleaf, Hawkie, rssp1
Texas Cloverleaf (2): Aubisio, thetwinmasters
Aubisio (2): Asek, Borath The Oscillator
Not Voting (2): Former Hope, OM Room

Aubisio (4): Asek, Texas Cloverleaf, Borath the Oscillator, rssp1
Texas Cloverleaf (2): aubisio, thetwinmasters,
Thetwinmasters (1): Hawkie
rssp1 (1): Gale Wing Srock

Texas Cloverleaf (2): thetwinmasters, Hawkie
Thetwinmasters (1): Gale Wing Srock
Asek (1): Texas Cloverleaf
Not voting (3): Asek, Borath, rssp1
 
Wait
is everyone who said that the josh kill was a frame on walrein (sans the walrein sub borath) dead and revealed to be town?
because if so that makes borath look a LOT worse.
 
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