figured i'd type this before i go to sleep after rocking sun for around 4 hours and a half, here's a idea that i've had ever since i saw strength sap with shiinotic. i doubt this could be used as a solid core but who knows
Shiinotic @ Leftovers
Ability: Effect Spore/Rain Dish
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpAtk / 252 SpDef
Calm Nature
- Strength Sap
- Moonblast
- Spore
- Leech Seed/Giga Drain/Confuse Ray
Sableye @ Sablenite
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Impish Nature
- Swagger
- Protect/Fake Out/Will-o-Wisp
- Recover
- Foul Play
the general idea of the set is to set up swagger with sableye prior to mega evo (or do the effects of prankster remain even after the first turn of mega evo? i haven't looked too far into the new mega evo mechanics quite yet), and then let shiinotic use strength sap for massive damage. sableye runs mega for magic bounce and runs foul play to also abuse the effects of swagger, and then can run will-o-wisp to cripple after confusion ends or can run fake out/protect for utility. shiinotic runs strength sap because you get a ton of healing from +2 attack, moonblast for fairy stab and coverage, spore because 100% sleep is pretty nice IMO, and can run the last move as a flex move. i was thinking effect spore for RNG, but rain dish might actually be useful with the re-resurgence of rain with pelipper.
thoughts? i'm still looking for feedback, i can think of a few counters off the top of my head (bisharp/scizor) for this core but i'd like to see what others think. idk quite yet where this could lead, but i feel like strength sap + swagger has some potential, despite these two mons having completely shit speed (30 and 20 respectively).
Shiinotic @ Leftovers
Ability: Effect Spore/Rain Dish
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpAtk / 252 SpDef
Calm Nature
- Strength Sap
- Moonblast
- Spore
- Leech Seed/Giga Drain/Confuse Ray
Sableye @ Sablenite
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Impish Nature
- Swagger
- Protect/Fake Out/Will-o-Wisp
- Recover
- Foul Play
the general idea of the set is to set up swagger with sableye prior to mega evo (or do the effects of prankster remain even after the first turn of mega evo? i haven't looked too far into the new mega evo mechanics quite yet), and then let shiinotic use strength sap for massive damage. sableye runs mega for magic bounce and runs foul play to also abuse the effects of swagger, and then can run will-o-wisp to cripple after confusion ends or can run fake out/protect for utility. shiinotic runs strength sap because you get a ton of healing from +2 attack, moonblast for fairy stab and coverage, spore because 100% sleep is pretty nice IMO, and can run the last move as a flex move. i was thinking effect spore for RNG, but rain dish might actually be useful with the re-resurgence of rain with pelipper.
thoughts? i'm still looking for feedback, i can think of a few counters off the top of my head (bisharp/scizor) for this core but i'd like to see what others think. idk quite yet where this could lead, but i feel like strength sap + swagger has some potential, despite these two mons having completely shit speed (30 and 20 respectively).