Pokemon: The New First Gen (Submissions for new Pokemon Over, Except costumes)

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Jerrytkrot

Jerrytkrot

FlameUser64 said:
Are there rules re: retooling of old Pokémon using newly-introduced moves/giving Hidden Abilities to Pokémon who lacked them, etc.? (Basically wondering if I can get away with adding Draining Kiss, Short Work, and Shimmer Strike to Diancie along with a cool Hidden Ability without using a costume to justify it, and wondering if I can get away with adding a few moves + that same Hidden Ability to Manaphy. They're royals and their movesets don't look the part, so I wanna fix that.)
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I would not be opposed to forming a Harmonian Pokedex, And giving some modifications to some Pokemon in it, If that's What your asking.
 
transwiththeplans

transwiththeplans

Flawer
Moves used by this pokemon that reduce stats have an additional stage added to them.

Kriptonian
Sharply raise attack and SpAtk under Harsh sunlight.

Prepared
Every buff moves boosts 1.25x rate. Redutions works 0.75x at rate.

Sculptable
Instead of being hit by Super Effective moves, it boosts it reduces it greatly reduces Defense and Increases its Speed and Attack
 
Athicus

Athicus

Alright I've set up the final mon for my Psychic team.

Name: Serprise (Serpent + Surprise)
Concept: A snake with a mind-control venom
Type: Poison/Psychic
Abilities: Intimidate / Poison Touch / Merciless (Hidden)
Evolves into Lamiasma when levelled up while knowing Psyshock
Base Stats:
HP - 50
Atk - 80
Def - 40
SpA - 20
SpD - 30
Spe - 75
BST - 295

1 - Poison Sting
4 - Glare
6 - Mind Reader
8 - Bite
11 - Smog
13 - Poison Fang
16 - Confusion
19 - Hypnosis
23 - Venom Drench
30 - Psyshock
34 - Cross Poison
38 - Psychic Fangs
42 - Crunch
46 - Coil
50 - Poison Jab
03 - Psyshock
06 - Toxic
09 - Venoshock
10 - Hidden Power
12 - Taunt
17 - Protect
21 - Frustration
27 - Return
28 - Leech Life
32 - Double Team
35 - Flamethrower
42 - Facade
44 - Rest
45 - Attract
46 - Thief
48 - Round
49 - Echoed Voice
56 - Fling
59 - Brutal Swing
66 - Payback
82 - Dragon Tail
84 - Poison Jab
87 - Swagger
88 - Sleep Talk
90 - Substitute
100 - Confide
Egg Group - Dragon
Pursuit
Poison Tail
Iron Tail
Sucker Punch
Miracle Eye
Mirror Coat
Dark Pulse
Name: Lamiasma (Lamia + Miasma)
Concept: A snake with a humanoid torso and mind control
Type: Poison/Psychic
Abilities: Intimidate / Poison Touch / Merciless (Hidden)
Evolves into Lamiasma when levelled up while knowing Psyshock
Base Stats:
HP - 50
Atk - 80
Def - 60
SpA - 130
SpD - 90
Spe - 110
BST - 520

1 - Poison Sting
4 - Glare
6 - Mind Reader
8 - Bite
11 - Smog
13 - Poison Fang
16 - Confusion
19 - Hypnosis
23 - Venom Drench
30 - Psyshock
34 - Sludge
38 - Psychic
42 - Dark Pulse
46 - Calm Mind
50 - Sludge Wave
03 - Psyshock
04 - Calm Mind
06 - Toxic
09 - Venoshock
10 - Hidden Power
12 - Taunt
15 - Hyper Beam
16 - Light Screen
17 - Protect
21 - Frustration
27 - Return
28 - Leech Life
29 - Psychic
30 - Shadow Ball
32 - Double Team
34 - Sludge Wave
35 - Flamethrower
36 - Sludge Bomb
42 - Facade
44 - Rest
45 - Attract
46 - Thief
48 - Round
49 - Echoed Voice
52 - Focus Blast
56 - Fling
59 - Brutal Swing
66 - Payback
68 - Embargo
73 - Thunder Wave
82 - Dragon Tail
84 - Poison Jab
85 - Dream Eater
87 - Swagger
88 - Sleep Talk
90 - Substitute
97 - Dark Pulse
99 - Dazzling Gleam
100 - Confide


And to finalise the team (6th leader by the way)

TM: Psyshock

1st Mon: Cuceider
Level 44
Jolly Nature
Full 31 IVs
252 Spe / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Focus Sash
Terrify
- U-turn
- Baton Pass
- Glare
- Nasty Plot

2nd Mon: Mammyth
Level 45
Modest Nature
Full 31 IVs
252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Choice Specs
Frostblood
- Ice Beam
- Power Gem
- Psyshock
- Shadow Ball

3rd Mon: Lamiasma
Level 46
Timid Nature
Full 31 IVs
252 Spe / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Life Orb
Merciless
- Toxic
- Venoshock
- Psyshock
- Dark Pulse

4th Mon: Cerberuse
Level 47
Adamant Nature
Full 31 IVs
252 Spe / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Choice Scarf
Strong Jaw
- Crunch
- Psychic Fangs
- Thunder Fang
- Parting Shot
 
transwiththeplans

transwiththeplans

Harmonian Kecleon

Type: Ghost/Normal

Abilities: Iron Barbs / Fur Coat / Steelworker

Appearance: Due to testing, Kecleon's entire body is a blue-grey colour. The yellow markings on its face are silver, and the zigzag is not present. It can no longer change colour, though this is not needed in its new abilities. The short fur on the Harmonian Kecleon's body is surprisingly sharp and heavy, and is often used by Kecleon to defend itself.

Harmonian Kecleon is a lot heavier than Kecleon, weighing at least twenty times more than the Hoenn variant. (445.0 kg compared to 22.0 kg)

Base Stats:

  • HP: 60

  • Atk: 105

  • Def: 85

  • SpA: 50

  • SpD: 110

  • Spe: 30
Movepool additions: Heavy Slam, Iron Head, Meteor Mash, Phantom Force, Snarl, Featherdance,

Movepool removals: Drain Punch, Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Fire Punch, Foul Play, Knock Off, Low Kick
 
Jerrytkrot

Jerrytkrot

transwiththeplans said:
Harmonian Kecleon

Type: Ghost/Normal

Abilities: Iron Barbs / Fur Coat / Steelworker

Appearance: Due to testing, Kecleon's entire body is a blue-grey colour. The yellow markings on its face are silver, and the zigzag is not present. It can no longer change colour, though this is not needed in its new abilities. The short fur on the Harmonian Kecleon's body is surprisingly sharp and heavy, and is often used by Kecleon to defend itself.

Harmonian Kecleon is a lot heavier than Kecleon, weighing at least twenty times more than the Hoenn variant. (445.0 kg compared to 22.0 kg)

Base Stats:

  • HP: 60

  • Atk: 105

  • Def: 85

  • SpA: 50

  • SpD: 110

  • Spe: 30
Movepool additions: Heavy Slam, Iron Head, Meteor Mash, Phantom Force, Snarl, Featherdance,

Movepool removals: Drain Punch, Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Fire Punch, Foul Play, Knock Off, Low Kick
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This is an awesome Pokemon, and probably a scary one to come across too.
Definitely going to add it to the document.
 

Dilasc

May I sign up for an Elite? Flying is my choice:

When beaten, the Elite here gives you TM 103 unlike most elites, his signature move: Plummet

Type: Flying (Physical)
Power: 250
PP: 5
Accuracy: 90
Effect: When hitting an enemy successfully, strike with self-fainting force. If you miss, are blocked or an immunity/absorb ability comes to block you, you will not faint yourself. Also only hits one target.

In short: better typed, less risky but less accurate and less doubles viable.


This makes me wonder: will there be new TMs? Will we pull a Gen 4 where the last Gen's TMs are untouched but we add a bunch of new ones?

I'm thinking so, and a few readditions, such as dig and Hone Claws could do well.

So here's a TM List I've got so far.

TM 101: Accelerock
TM 102: Acid Rain
TM 103: Plummet
TM 104: Moonblast
TM 105: Rinse Cycle (Special Water version of Rapid Spin)
TM 106: Brambles (Grass type Stealth Rocks, can seed targets in sunlight. Can't have two 'type' hazards on at once.)
TM 107: Dragon Pulse
TM 108: Topsy-Turvy
TM 109: Coil
TM 110: Scrub Down (Water type Roost, removes Water, steel or poison typings for the turn, leaving the Pokemon typeless, potentially)


I think maybe 125-150 would be good? Not sure though.

I'll say this: Brambles is a great way to give the likes of Articuno and other Fire types a better lease on life. Want to do a sun team or Hail team? Have at it! Brambles is very forgiving to the fact that ice, grass and fire types aren't weak to it! Torkoal can be an efficient spinner now.


Oh and here's a short list of new Tutor abilities for old mons.

Piplup Line: Lightningrod (made better by its new access to Scrub Down)
Bulbasaur: Corrosion (goes great with Leech seeds also being able to seed grass types as a new feature.)
Machop Line: Flex (Attack version of Speed Boost)
Mudkip Line: Filmy Coat (Increases defenses during acid rain and prevents the weather damage)
Flareon: Fluffy (Not actually Tutor. Remember, Eevee has two abilities)
Jolteon: Spike Shed (unleashes a layer of spikes when switched into combat. Again, not really tutored.)
 
Jerrytkrot

Jerrytkrot

Dilasc said:
May I sign up for an Elite? Flying is my choice:

When beaten, the Elite here gives you TM 103 unlike most elites, his signature move: Plummet

Type: Flying (Physical)
Power: 250
PP: 5
Accuracy: 90
Effect: When hitting an enemy successfully, strike with self-fainting force. If you miss, are blocked or an immunity/absorb ability comes to block you, you will not faint yourself. Also only hits one target.

In short: better typed, less risky but less accurate and less doubles viable.


This makes me wonder: will there be new TMs? Will we pull a Gen 4 where the last Gen's TMs are untouched but we add a bunch of new ones?

I'm thinking so, and a few readditions, such as dig and Hone Claws could do well.

So here's a TM List I've got so far.

TM 101: Accelerock
TM 102: Acid Rain
TM 103: Plummet
TM 104: Moonblast
TM 105: Rinse Cycle (Special Water version of Rapid Spin)
TM 106: Brambles (Grass type Stealth Rocks, can seed targets in sunlight. Can't have two 'type' hazards on at once.)
TM 107: Dragon Pulse
TM 108: Topsy-Turvy
TM 109: Coil
TM 110: Scrub Down (Water type Roost, removes Water, steel or poison typings for the turn, leaving the Pokemon typeless, potentially)


I think maybe 125-150 would be good? Not sure though.

I'll say this: Brambles is a great way to give the likes of Articuno and other Fire types a better lease on life. Want to do a sun team or Hail team? Have at it! Brambles is very forgiving to the fact that ice, grass and fire types aren't weak to it! Torkoal can be an efficient spinner now.


Oh and here's a short list of new Tutor abilities for old mons.

Piplup Line: Lightningrod (made better by its new access to Scrub Down)
Bulbasaur: Corrosion (goes great with Leech seeds also being able to seed grass types as a new feature.)
Machop Line: Flex (Attack version of Speed Boost)
Mudkip Line: Filmy Coat (Increases defenses during acid rain and prevents the weather damage)
Flareon: Fluffy (Not actually Tutor. Remember, Eevee has two abilities)
Jolteon: Spike Shed (unleashes a layer of spikes when switched into combat. Again, not really tutored.)
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I'm cool with the you being an elite 4 member, but Ability Tutor? What?
 
Rasdanation

Rasdanation

For the Harmonian Pokedex, we will need to add certain Pokémon that have corresponding flavor with our submitted Pokémon. The only I can think of right now are Murkrow and Honchkrow, which I included in Scarit's flavor
 
Ludicrousity

Ludicrousity

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Harmo Slaking (Vigoroth and Slakoth are regular)
Type 1: Normal
Type 2: Steel
Ability 1: Truant
Ability 2: N/A
Hidden Ability: N/A
HP 150, Atk 170, Def 100, Spa 75, Spd 85, Spe 90

In Harmo, Slaking are often found battling each other in the caves of mountains. In order to climb mountains, their claws had to strengthen and harden to allow them to dig them into the solid rock. Over time, they became pure steel. After climbing mountains, they must rest, because of the added weight from their claws.

Moveset is similar. will add it when I get onto a PC.
 
Jerrytkrot

Jerrytkrot

The Cruelest said:
I've been watching this thread for a while now, but needed the time to come up with a few Fakemon ideas. I've made sprites for them and everything.

Monstratus


Name Justification: Monsoon and Stratus (as in the kind of cloud)
Type 1: Electric
Type 2: Flying
Ability 1: Speed Boost
Ability 2: Air Lock
Hidden Ability: Drizzle
76, 57, 52, 125, 81, 89
Moves:
Level 1: Gust
Level 1: Twister
Level 1: Thunder Shock
Level 7: Dragon Dance
Level 11: Weather Ball
Level 16: Air Cutter
Level 23: Razor Wind
Level 29: Discharge
Level 34: Air Slash
Level 37: Hydro Pump
Level 42: Hurricane
Level 48: Thunder
Egg Moves: Thunder Fang, Wing Attack, Dragonbreath, Dragon Rage, Whirlwind, Nasty Plot
TMs: Dragon Claw, Calm Mind, Roar, Toxic, HP, Taunt, Protect, Roost, Safeguard, Frustration, Thunderbolt, Thunder, Shadow Ball, Double Team, Aerial Ace, Facade, Rest, Attract, Theif, Round, Echoed Voice, Steel Wing, Scald, Charge Beam, Sky Drop, Acrobatics, Flash, Thunder Wave, Dragon Tail, Psych Up, Swagger, Grass Knot, Substitute, Wild Charge, Dazzling Gleam, Confide, Fly, Surf.
Concept/general Design: Based on a stormcloud mixed with a dragon. The yellow stuff is electricity.
Other Notes/Competitive Use: This thing doesn't get Volt Switch or U-Turn because I didn't want it to be able to use Drizzle. Drizzle's there because it's a cloud.

Anyways, this is mostly meant to be a sweeper that utilized Speed Boost and Nasty Plot, but has little defenses. It could run Nasty Plot/Thunderbolt/Hurricane/Surf. If it does this, though, it needs hazards off the feild and needs to somehow get a free switch


Debring
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Name Justification: Debris and Ring.
Type 1: Rock
Type 2: Psychic
Ability 1: Magic Guard
Ability 2: Magic Guard
Hidden Ability: Levitate
150, 70, 50, 100, 75, 25
Moves:
Level 1: Rock Throw
Level 8: Psywave
Level 13: Psybeam
Level 17: Cosmic Power
Level 21: Ancient Power
Level 24: Power Gem
Level 28: Recover
Level 35: Psychic
Level 40: Wish
Level 44: Calm Mind
Level 52: Star Burst
Egg Moves: None, it's genderless
TMs: Psyshock, Calm Mind, Toxic, Hidden Power, Light Screen, Protect, Safeguard, Frustration, Solar Beam, Smack Down, Thunderbolt, Return, Psychic, Shadow Ball, Double Team, Rock Tomb, Facade, Rest, Theif, Round, Energy Ball, Charge Beam, Explosion, Rock Polish, Stone Edge, Thunder Wave, Gyro Ball, Rock Slide, Dream Eater, Swagger, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Trick Room, Confide, Strength
New Move: Star Burst. Psychic type, 80 BP, 100 Acc, 16 Max Pp, Special Attack. Has a 30% chance to burn.
Concept/general Design: It's an asteroid with a debris ring floating around it.
Other Notes/Competitive Use: This could be run as a bulky specs with Star Burst/Power Gem/Thunderbolt/Shadow Ball, a WishPasser, or a Calm Mind/Cosmic Power set with Star Burst/Recover/Power Gem. Just keep it away from all Physical attackers thet aren't burned.


Hyquid
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Name Justification: Hybrid and Liquid
Type 1: Bug
Type 2: Water
Ability 1: Quick Feet
Ability 2: Swift Swim
Hidden Ability: Adaptability
96, 88, 63, 78, 81, 120
Moves:
Level 1: Water Gun
Level 1: String Shot
Level 2: Growl
Level 3: Struggle Bug
Level 5: Pin Missile
Level 8: Fury Cutter
Level 13: Water Gun
Level 21: Bubblebeam
Level 34: X-Scissor
Level 55: Swords Dance
Level 89: Waterfall
Egg Moves: Ice Punch, Sticky Web, Acid Armor
TMs: Hone Claws, Dragon Claw, Toxic, Venoshock, Hidden Power, Ice Beam, Blizzard, Protect, Rain Dance, Earthquake, Return, Brick Break, Double Team, Sludge Wave, Sludge Bomb, Aerial Ace, Facade, Rest, Attract, Theif, Round, Echoed Voice, Scald, Shadow Claw, Swords Dance, Struggle Bug, X-Scissor, Infestation, Poison Jab, Swagger, Sleep Talk, Secret Power, Confide, Cut, Surf, Waterfall, Dive
Concept/general Design: Based on a chimera sort of, but it has the aspects of an ant (antennae), shark (fin), axolotl (legs), and mantis (hands).
Other Notes/Competitive Use: It's supposed to be a fast Adaptability sweeper with Swords Dance sweeper with Earthquake, Waterfall and X-Scissor or Ice Punch.


Grievenge
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Name Justification: Grief and Revenge.
Type 1: Ghost
Type 2: None
Ability 1: Death's Call
Ability 2: Death's Call
Hidden Ability: Death's Call
New Ability: Death's Call. Neither Pokemon on the feild can switch. It also ignores the effects of Trick Room if it's active.
15, 200, 10, 15, 10, 50
Moves:
Level 1: Soul Slash
TMs: Brick Break, Shadow Claw, and the TMs everything else gets.
Concept/general Design: This is based on the grim reaper and a torn up cloth.
New Move: Soul Slash. Ghost type, 200 BP, Perfect Accuracy, 1 PP, +2 Priority. Goes through ability, items, substitute, screens/aurora veil, and stat boosts, but not protect.
Other Notes/Competitive Use: This is meant to be a Pokemon for trading kills. You get one shot that probably instakills an opponent doesn't protect and fails if they do. If it works, they die andsomething If they Protect but your opponent is somehow slower than you, you'll get to kill anyways, but something will come in to revenge kill.

If this is too broken, I'll change it.


I spent an hour typing this. If anything looks weird about my sprites or if I messed up anything, let me know and I'll change it.
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I Don't Think I ever Actuallyt acknowledged this Post and It's Awesome Art. Anyways, Nerf Greievenge's move to 150-175 Base Power, Or Smeargle will have WAY too much fun.
 
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zerobreaker000

zerobreaker000

Well then, not sure how I didn't notice a thread like this exists, but here it is.
Throwing some ideas in:

Name: Regalet ([Regalecus] + [net])
Typing: Water/Dragon
Ability: Snare Net (Traps opponents when hit by a contact move)/Tangling Hair/Water Veil (Hidden)
Egg Group: Water 2/Dragon
Evolves at lvl 33 into Gleseine

Stats:
- HP: 40
- Atk: 25
- Def: 40
- SpA: 60
- SpD: 40
- Speed: 55
Total: 260

Moves:
Start: Water Gun
Start: Splash
Level 5: Aqua Jet
Level 8: Mist
Level 11: Coil
Level 14: Brine
Level 19: Dragon Rage
Level 23: Rain Dance
Level 28: Whirlpool
Level 32: Wish
Level 38: Twister
Level 43: Agility
Level 49: Backstroke






Hydro Pump
Constrict
Future Sight
Wrap
Slam
Assurance
Aqua Tail
Soak
Aqua Ring
Dragon Rush


Name: Gleseine (Regalecus [Glesne] + [seine] fishing)
Typing: Water/Dragon
Ability: Snare Net (Traps opponents when hit by a contact move)/Tangling Hair/Water Veil (Hidden)
Egg Group: Water 2/Dragon

Stats:
- HP: 85
- Atk: 65
- Def: 80
- SpA: 90
- SpD: 75
- Speed: 70
Total: 465

Moves:
Start: Wring Out
Start: Water Gun
Start: Splash
Start: Aqua Jet
Start: Mist
Level 5: Aqua Jet
Level 8: Mist
Level 11: Coil
Level 14: Brine
Level 19: Dragon Rage
Level 23: Rain Dance
Level 28: Whirlpool
Level 32: Wish
Level 33: Dragon Dance
Level 39: Dragon Pulse
Level 45: Perish Song
Level 52: Liquidation
Level 57: Outrage






Concept: A whole evo line of oarfish with fins that act like dragnets, trapping things that collide with it. Oftenly in combat, they would tangle preys in their fin-net, then coil around and devour their meal.

Competive Concept: Alright, this is about as low of a BST as I can take. Gah.
The idea here is to switch it into a resisted/weaker physical move, and promptly trap something that it can take on with (relative) ease. Or, if you like that, Perish Song. While it has no reliable recovery other than Wish, and mediocre bulk, Perishtrapping is devastating enough that as long as you can keep it healthy enough the oarfish can elimilate certain threats to a team. Other than that, you can also set up with Calm Mind and attempt something that resemble a sweep, I guess.
Outside of that, its stats are pretty bad as expected from a mon with 465 BST. A Specs set might be okay, but the 90 SpA...

Not sure what the TM and Tutor listing is around here so I can't quite fill in the slots yet, but here are the moves that it'd likely get from that:
Thunder
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Calm Mind
Draco Meteor
Hyper Voice
Uproar
Round
Echoed Voice
Entrainment
Dive
Surf
Waterfall
Psychic
Thunder Wave
U-Turn
Dazzling Gleam
Light Screen
 

Dilasc

Ludicrousity said:
It's unique, but I'm not a massive fan of it... 3 abilities is enough on most pokemon already
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Not every (non-joke or gimmick) pokemon is viable yet. I'm gonna try and make that true somehow. If not by giving them up to 2 abilities for the trainer to potentially choose from then I dunno.
 
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