Actually, the Steelers(even if by default) are certainly the second best team in the AFC. I actually liked the way they played today and have a shot at beating Brady if he throws an int or someone fumbles at the wrong time. Basically pats vs steelers will be two good offenses praying on awful defenses. The steelers have a shot at winning that game because of brown and bell and their dominance. The pats offense rely on more players and because of that they have a higher chance of making mistakes. The steelers will hang with them and they may make a mistake eventually. I'd actually say it's almost 50-50 at this point between pats and steelers.
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The Everything NFL Thread - 2016-17 Season
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Actually, the Steelers(even if by default) are certainly the second best team in the AFC. I actually liked the way they played today and have a shot at beating Brady if he throws an int or someone fumbles at the wrong time. Basically pats vs steelers will be two good offenses praying on awful defenses. The steelers have a shot at winning that game because of brown and bell and their dominance. The pats offense rely on more players and because of that they have a higher chance of making mistakes. The steelers will hang with them and they may make a mistake eventually. I'd actually say it's almost 50-50 at this point between pats and steelers.
I never said I didn't which is why I'm trying to be nice here and calm you back down. we all get emotional after these games but eventually we need to settle down and let rationality back in
I wish the Pats still have Hernandez so they could win.
Anyone that thinks the Patriots can beat the Steelers if the Patriots make a "mistake" is ignoring a few things
1.Tom Brady literally has the lowest turnover percentage in league history this year
2.Tom Brady has thrown 19TDs and 0 ints in his last 6 games against the Steelers
3.The Steelers have never won against Tom Brady in Gillette
4.Ben Roethlisberger has quietly been kinda shitty this year and throws an insane amount of pickable passes
In order for the Steelers to win they'd have to have their best game in like a decade and the Patriots would need to completely shit the bed.
Also this game is proving why the chiefs are the biggest threat to the pats
1.Tom Brady literally has the lowest turnover percentage in league history this year
2.Tom Brady has thrown 19TDs and 0 ints in his last 6 games against the Steelers
3.The Steelers have never won against Tom Brady in Gillette
4.Ben Roethlisberger has quietly been kinda shitty this year and throws an insane amount of pickable passes
In order for the Steelers to win they'd have to have their best game in like a decade and the Patriots would need to completely shit the bed.
Also this game is proving why the chiefs are the biggest threat to the pats
Nah Chiefs suck. They have an offense that can be shut down by the pats style of D. Unless you're relying on Hill for points you can't with confidence believe Smith can score more than 14 points on the pats D.
Mistakes are made when you are being pressured by the opposing offense. If the steelers are scoring along with the pats(likely) there is a high chance they make mistakes. Obviously nobody should feel confident saying that a team can beat another team through mistakes, but that's what playoff games always come down to unless you have an all time great D. As for those stats you mentioned, i always go back to the 2013 playoffs between chargers and broncos. Peyton was in the red zone and the commentators made a comment on how he hasn't thrown an INT in the red zone all year... then does so in the next play. Meaning you can't rely on things like that to hold up, if anything those stats should come back down to reality eventually.
Mistakes are made when you are being pressured by the opposing offense. If the steelers are scoring along with the pats(likely) there is a high chance they make mistakes. Obviously nobody should feel confident saying that a team can beat another team through mistakes, but that's what playoff games always come down to unless you have an all time great D. As for those stats you mentioned, i always go back to the 2013 playoffs between chargers and broncos. Peyton was in the red zone and the commentators made a comment on how he hasn't thrown an INT in the red zone all year... then does so in the next play. Meaning you can't rely on things like that to hold up, if anything those stats should come back down to reality eventually.
Antonio Brown is a beast man, the effort on that touchdown was amazing. Easily one of my favorite players in the league.
and man that kid Tyreek can fly. I thought the Broncos might be ready after last time but they still got slayed on that run
and man that kid Tyreek can fly. I thought the Broncos might be ready after last time but they still got slayed on that run
The chiefs offense is the opposite of what the patriots defense beats. The Pats d beats up on offenses who make mistakes and the chiefs don't do anything that would put them in danger of mistakes.
The way I see the Patriots winning against KC is if the offense jumps to a lead early like Pittsburgh did against them and force Alex Smith to do it all.
Problem is I'm not so sure they can do that given how Brady seems to lose his mind against the Chiefs similar to how he plays the Broncos and tends to fall flat on his face. The only way it happens is with the running game carrying them imo.
The way I see the Patriots winning against KC is if the offense jumps to a lead early like Pittsburgh did against them and force Alex Smith to do it all.
Problem is I'm not so sure they can do that given how Brady seems to lose his mind against the Chiefs similar to how he plays the Broncos and tends to fall flat on his face. The only way it happens is with the running game carrying them imo.
I think you're exaggerating a bit. the Patriots are definitely favored to win, but it's not as lopsided as you're implying. the Patriots have never played against Pittsburgh with all three of their triplets active, and this steelers offensive line is the strongest it's been since the days of Alan faneca. the pats are also missing Gronk who has been the main factor in all their recent meetings. yes big Ben is having a somewhat down year, but as you saw last night he can turn it on in crunch time. Pittsburgh plays to their competition, especially in the playoffs. so yeah, Pittsburgh can absolutely beat new England at home, and they don't need the pats to completely shit the bed to do so
The Steelers are one of those teams that comes into Gillette down 10-0 before the game even starts because they suffer from Patriots paranoia
As much as I disagree with stuff like "the Ravens have the pats number", they aren't mentally shook like the Steelers are.
You guys actually managed to hype me for an afc playoff game(if it happens). Well done. The AFC minus Carr is boring as hell but steelers vs pats sounds like a fun time. I have 0 faith in the chiefs winning against the pats or steelers on the road but at least i can watch them get destroyed so that's fun. If i ranked the teams in the afc playoffs the chiefs would be below a Carr-less raiders team. Hell, if Tanehill was still playing i'd have the Dolphins above them. As TheValkries noted the chiefs have an O that tries to not make mistakes, and thanks to hill they've been able to follow that game plan but if you shut down hill(i think the pats can) i have 0 faith on smith coming back from even an 8 point deficit. That's how awful their offense looks outside of hills random scores. The chiefs imo pose no threat to the pats (or steelers) at their home. It would be different if the chiefs had a player as dominant as prime charles, but fact is they don't. And i don't trust smith to do anything offensively if the game plan doesn't go perfectly as planned.
The NFC is on the other hand fun and every team is fun to watch. The boys have zeke and that O, the falcons have julio, the hawks have wilson and a fun defense, the lions have stafford, pack have rodgers and nelson, the giants have that defense and odell and even the redskins have a fun offense. Every nfc team has something or someone worth getting excited for and every matchup is fun, as opposed to the afc which only has two interesting teams.
I don't want to make any playoff predictions but i think the steelers will represent the afc against the falcons. Though my dream match up is obviously giants vs patriots which is actually very likely and as likely as falcons vs steelers. The giants have the best d in the playoffs though being on the road 3 games will be hard, impossible if eli doesn't get his act together. Giants beating packers, cowboys and falcons in that order to make the sb isn't far fetched and i do like my odds.
The NFC is on the other hand fun and every team is fun to watch. The boys have zeke and that O, the falcons have julio, the hawks have wilson and a fun defense, the lions have stafford, pack have rodgers and nelson, the giants have that defense and odell and even the redskins have a fun offense. Every nfc team has something or someone worth getting excited for and every matchup is fun, as opposed to the afc which only has two interesting teams.
I don't want to make any playoff predictions but i think the steelers will represent the afc against the falcons. Though my dream match up is obviously giants vs patriots which is actually very likely and as likely as falcons vs steelers. The giants have the best d in the playoffs though being on the road 3 games will be hard, impossible if eli doesn't get his act together. Giants beating packers, cowboys and falcons in that order to make the sb isn't far fetched and i do like my odds.
Just sayin, we all at Seattle went into the Gillette game expecting to lose. Ended up being our game of the season. Good weapons on offense all around (except the line), but we ain't had a triplet then (or now). I think Pittsburgh would be just fine.
It still comes down to coaching. belichick is a far superior coach to Tomlin and is better at in game adjustments and overall strategizing/preparation. Pittsburgh has historically struggled at Gillette because the previous teams were more defensively focused, which belichick was able to exploit with Tom the goat. they've never faced a Pittsburgh team that could match them point for point offensively, so this time around I'm sure it would be a different type of game. time will tell though, both teams will have to go through other teams before they play each other
Bell would be the key. Brown will be covered half the time by Butler maybe, but Ben shouldn't throw in Butler's direction regardless. They'll try to eliminate Brown, but it's tough to do it to both of them.
They definitely shouldn't focus defensively because New England's becoming way too impossible to predict who gets the ball post-Gronk. The only two mainstays are Blount and Edelman. Everyone else, they mix in and mix in well. You can see them repeat plays, but the top performers always cycles each game.
It would have to wait for the championship. Unless the world flips.
They definitely shouldn't focus defensively because New England's becoming way too impossible to predict who gets the ball post-Gronk. The only two mainstays are Blount and Edelman. Everyone else, they mix in and mix in well. You can see them repeat plays, but the top performers always cycles each game.
It would have to wait for the championship. Unless the world flips.
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The most impressive statistic I've seen if iirc is that of the 10 QBs that have won 10+ playoffs games, 6 are in the HoF, 3 are Brady/P. Manning/Big Ben, and one is Flacco...
Ironic that you said 8 points, i for one think playing the broncos D on the road is harder than playing the Pats D. So yeah, tell that to the broncos.
Nb4 "fluke" excuse lol
Matt Ryan would be the lamest MVP in history
Hes the league's third best Quarterback this year and is destined for a huge letdown in the postseason.
In my mind hes Just a good player having an amazing season in a year where every other candidate is flawed (or was railroaded by the NFL)
Hes the league's third best Quarterback this year and is destined for a huge letdown in the postseason.
In my mind hes Just a good player having an amazing season in a year where every other candidate is flawed (or was railroaded by the NFL)
Lol @ stephen A. Saying the cowboys should bench prescott to avoid injury. Pipe dream
https://twitter.com/ChrisWesseling/status/813519230398185472
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/pag...tlanta-falcons-just-good-offense-historic-one
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb
Matt Ryan is having literally a historic season, not best of all time but in the top echelon without a doubt. The only one who would deserve to be in the conversation for MVP is Brady, but he missed a quarter of the season and is only on pace for a similar season and not really a better one. Would be a travesty if the award went to anyone but Ryan at this point.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/pag...tlanta-falcons-just-good-offense-historic-one
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb
Matt Ryan is having literally a historic season, not best of all time but in the top echelon without a doubt. The only one who would deserve to be in the conversation for MVP is Brady, but he missed a quarter of the season and is only on pace for a similar season and not really a better one. Would be a travesty if the award went to anyone but Ryan at this point.
Fuck you linehan. Pulling some stunts on us ugh
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