A team that goes 3-1 or 11-5 without its main star can't count him as the MVP. A limping old Manning left the Broncos and we went from 12/13 wins team to an 8-8 one.
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The Everything NFL Thread - 2016-17 Season
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Dak Prescott should be an MVP then, although it is diluted by Elliot.
The same Cowboys with other QBs such as Brandon Weeden and Matt Cassel had essentially the same offensive line but went 4-12.
WB edit: please keep irrelevant inflammatory information out of your posts, especially if nobody responded to it the first time.
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Reminder that the 11-5 patriots went 16-0 the previous year. If a 14-2 team loses their QB and then back up goes 9-7 I wonder if we'd say the QB that went down wasn't that valuable.
I've spent hours analyzing this post in my lab and I still have zero idea what point its trying to convey
The "Matt Cassel went 10-6 when Brady went down" is the most asinine argument ever made.
The 2007 Patriots were arguably the most talented team of all time
In 2008 almost the entire Uber talented roster returns and the Patriots are HUGE Superbowl favorites, then Brady got hurt, and they missed the playoffs playing against the easiest schedule in the NFL.
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So, think Screw England gonna get picks back off Jimmy Galapagos Island? Seems like he'd be an obvious pickup for teams in bad QB situations. They're obviously just putting the value out there, but watch someone take up on it anyway. 1st and 4th, on two starts lol. Houston probably making calls now, ready to also give them a 2nd round pick for shits.
As for Brissett, I was looking him up yesterday. I never realized they took him off IR. He's on the roster now and they've been continuously working on him. Interesting, going into the season end with all three. He's obviously got time, unlike J. Guacamole who's contract is up in 2017 and Brady still playing, so we'll see what they'll do with him.
I wouldn't hand over that payment for J. Geppetto, but from what was shown in preseason and week 1-2 should be enough to get offers. He just needs to get rid of the ball faster and work a bit on deep shots. Otherwise, should easily be able to be traded and compete for a starting position. Looked like a solid dude.
As for Brissett, I was looking him up yesterday. I never realized they took him off IR. He's on the roster now and they've been continuously working on him. Interesting, going into the season end with all three. He's obviously got time, unlike J. Guacamole who's contract is up in 2017 and Brady still playing, so we'll see what they'll do with him.
I wouldn't hand over that payment for J. Geppetto, but from what was shown in preseason and week 1-2 should be enough to get offers. He just needs to get rid of the ball faster and work a bit on deep shots. Otherwise, should easily be able to be traded and compete for a starting position. Looked like a solid dude.
2008 patriots went 11-5 noobs, it's rather an anomaly that they didn't make the playoffs with that record but the top of the AFC that year was fuckin stacked yo
Ye. From a certain standpoint, the MVP should basically be choosing between OPOTY and DPOTY. But lots of people take "valuable" to mean various nebulous concepts, which I suppose is some justification for the difference in awards if you let the POTY awards represent more statistical leaders. Most "Valuable" Player is almost always a QB for various reasons, I'd say most notably because there's zero QB depth at the pro level so the drop-off in talent and performance level from a good starter to most backups is astronomical (like, the difference between Dallas going 4-12 and possibly 14-2 astronomical).
you know it's a seasonal award right, it's not like we're putting them in the hall of fame
Ye. From a certain standpoint, the MVP should basically be choosing between OPOTY and DPOTY. But lots of people take "valuable" to mean various nebulous concepts, which I suppose is some justification for the difference in awards if you let the POTY awards represent more statistical leaders. Most "Valuable" Player is almost always a QB for various reasons, I'd say most notably because there's zero QB depth at the pro level so the drop-off in talent and performance level from a good starter to most backups is astronomical (like, the difference between Dallas going 4-12 and possibly 14-2 astronomical).
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Happy New Year, hoes.
Clearly New England tampered with the field like they did with Carolina's in the last playoffs.
I wonder if Cleveland's gonna win against Pittsburgh. They're legit now!
Clearly New England tampered with the field like they did with Carolina's in the last playoffs.
I wonder if Cleveland's gonna win against Pittsburgh. They're legit now!
jags dominating another afc south foe. weird thought they could be 3-3 in the division this year. honestly hope marrone gets the job, i really believe this team should stay the course but just needed a culture change, it's a talented team that just wasn't getting bounces and was finding ways to lose instead of win hence the need in change of culture.
hey guys did you know that the kickoff is live and the team kicking off can recover the football?
https://twitter.com/CoachBilly1/status/815661955348361216
because the Bills sure didn't
https://twitter.com/CoachBilly1/status/815661955348361216
because the Bills sure didn't
Is this the first time two scores have ever happened at the same time? (Jets scored a field goal at 3:21, then scored a touchdown at 3:21). Incredible.
This makes me happy because it ensures that the Patriots will play Matt Mcgloin/Tom Savage/Matt Moore in the divisonal round and don't have to play the Chiefs and Steelers on their way to the superbowl
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Well, time to burn all 20 of my Drew Brees jerseys.
That special teams play was appropriately special.
Rip David Johnson's leg
*Earn
No, receive. You earned the first bye, not the second
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