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I am fine with MoodyCloud lynch because see: almost every post I've made in this thread lol. However I still would rather a lynch on Blank Slate because he has been a lot quieter ever since the MoodyCloud wagon started picking up and people were a lot less suspicious of him. I scumread fort due to his most recent posts as his reads lack any content whatsoever, i.e.

Haruno - townlean "You started contributing after day 1, especially slamming on texas, so I guess you were just blahbitying day 1. Which is understandable I guess..? You also refused to continue the exponential bigpost argument, when it could've been a way to just "w.e" your way through day 2."

lol what does that even mean (answer: nothing!)

So yeah fort is a fine lynch too. I feel like there also has to be more experienced players on this scumteam as well so I will read through tomorrow and think about which of them seems like scum, but non of them immediately stick out / come to mind. I also like ButteredToast's contributions as of late, they have a lot more "meat" to them, such as the post before this. No longer on my scumread list.
 
I'm just gonna drop a message and go back to isoing the rest of my null pile.

Whydon I'm advocating that you sub yourself out. You're less than null, you're next to nothing in this game and I would rather talk to your replacement than wait for you.
 
I'm not inactive, I just honestly have nothing to say. I'll contribute more tomorrow, but I'm just waiting for something to pop up on my end before I start doing anything. It's only the second day.

You'll hear more from me on the third day.
 
Haruno - townlean "You started contributing after day 1, especially slamming on texas, so I guess you were just blahbitying day 1. Which is understandable I guess..? You also refused to continue the exponential bigpost argument, when it could've been a way to just "w.e" your way through day 2."

lol what does that even mean (answer: nothing!)

It means that I see his previous trolly behavior as townish instead of scummy. Have you read my interactions with haruno? If you haven't go chekc them out. I didn't and still don't feel a need to reiterate the massive posts we made.
 
It means that I see his previous trolly behavior as townish instead of scummy. Have you read my interactions with haruno? If you haven't go chekc them out. I didn't and still don't feel a need to reiterate the massive posts we made.
In fact, that makes me suspect you more because you pick out a read that uses the context of multiple previous posts, and poke holes at it without consideration for those previous posts. Could you show the lack of content in maybe half of my reads?
 
rofl more idlers are sliding by s/o whydon/aubisio and other cucks who have "nothing to say" and nothing to contribute. We actually need to get on those asap.

blank/moody i'd be fine lynching since they've both been fishy. I'll wait for general consensus though. Most other votes seem forced or whatnot.

Hitmonleet can you c/d of any roles that can see messages being sent to messenger? It would suck major ass if a mafia could see/intercept the mail and get all the village info for free.

Texas is looking better than before, i still have no idea what role is so obvious that he could be that it flew over my head but w/e ill just take all your words for it.

fort is acting scummier again.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

The bigger issue I have is what exactly do we expect to see from the walrein flip since that should be the next focus going into n2 since most likely whoever we lynch will stay unrevealed going into n2. So what we really have going into n2 that would be new information would be what walrein ended up being. Blazade LightWolf Texas Cloverleaf pancake Blank Slate2356 KnightsofCydonia Whydon thoughts on what we'll get with the flip? Mostly based off of what will happen if walrein ends up flipping as scum/village/wolf and what it would that would implicate other users of.
 
Hmm...
IF Walrein flips town, most probably, with his tunneling of me, I would be a prime suspect, and Asek will have been confirmed as town.
IF Walrein flips scum, then it would mean that most of his connections D1 will also return scum.
 
I stick to my opinion that Walrein feels manufactured and we get nothing. Scum would know who is village with the exception of wolf, most sane scum would try go equalish on either side of walrein. If he flips scum but NOT WOLF(wolf/sk is frankly just village from scum perspective), it does make those who were on him look better, but I'd not say certainly, especially with some of the less than stellar votes on him. But yeah Asek would look god.

I also kinda feel I don't wanna discuss Walrein at this point since the delay kinda gives whoever has the role also the time to maybe produce a fake to show up. I'd very much dislike that but the timing of it certainly suggests it. For now just crackpot, and I just hope whoever does it dies a painful death soon.

Also if Moody shows up complaining he was busy last day with like 8 hoursish left, yeah I'm just lynching him, it's too well timed to avoid pressure. Also AWAITING FORMER HOPE'S PROMISED POST.
 
I really dont have much to say at this point that I haven't said earlier. You can poach the inactives as much as you want, the motivation for them to join the game has to come from them. Historically pressuring them through voting hasnt worked either in getting them into the game. I'd rather deal with them at the end of the game, as to be honest if we take the stance of 'we're lynching idlers' mafia is just going to push their teammates to start posting wheras village obviously does not have this luxury.

The delayed flips are reall throwing me out of my element as an aside, and the quicker that effect is gone out of the game the better off we are.

Basically I think fort colourcastle is my ride or die town read right now. I have a couple others that I'm fairly sure are town, but I don't namedrop shit...

For now I'm happy to lynch moody. I don't think anyone else here is happy to lynch lightwolf or butteredtoast as i am, and he was my fallback. i also outlined why Moody lynch is quite informative on a number of players.... I also dislike a lot of his activity and general posting habits thus far

Gotta cast your vote whilst you can

Vote Moodycloud
 
If wlarein flips scum it says more about roles than it does about alignments and we got really fucking lucky.

I fully expect him to flip town and flipping neut changes nothing about my reads on others

Unvote lynch Haruno quit waiting for "consensus" and vote your consience, whatever it is
 
Well that escalated quickly.

Idler idk how you expect to win as town by just going along with whatever target is presented to you and not making your own accusations, if you're scum you're doing just fine keep it up.
I you guys would be so kind as to remind me of what you each want me to adress that'd be great because searching through pages for half the game's reasons to want me dead is a bit of a hassle.

I don't want to lynch blankslate and I'd rather not be lynched, I'd be ok with a shubaka/lloyd/asek lynch however.
Null read on lightwolf, him pushing a lot on me and not so much on idlers is concerning but he's been generating discussion and whether that's coming from town or scum blending in I'll take activity over "uuuh yea sure lynch moody there have my vote see you in 48 hours" so lightwolf really shouldn't be a lynch target for now.

So many people going along with this forced wagon doesn't look good and if it goes through you should take a good look at the people giving up on calling anyone else into question and just going with the flow.
I'll wait for questions and read through the last few pages meanwhile.
 
I am still staying my vote on Aubisio, even if guys say he does this. By lynch and run, you stay safe from challenges to your vote, yes, scum-beneficial. But it also means that you have less proof to back up your claim and overall just pours suspicion on you.
It also gives you a 50/50 chance at best that your lynch will turn out as scum (if you are village), so I would like to play without mislynching by pushing a last second wagon off the edge with a sneak vote.
 
gonna preface this by sayin unvote texas i wanted a baseline on the pub-inspect, but that feels dumb now.

i'm fairly lost on "today's" discussion. it seems to be slamming idlers, while also saying idling isn't inherently scummy, while saying blank is scum, but since moody is scum we should lynch moody first? idk and i can't exactly iso (which is what i'm dying to do) on mobile, so if day is still goin on this time tomorrow, expect one stupidly long post from ya friendly neighborhood shub.

What the fuck is this post are you seriously going "hey guys what did i miss? we kill one of those 2 then? kk"
 
I also expect walrein to flip town, and texas/blankslate/lightwolf/blazade are the people I wouldn't want to lynch this cycle at all.
Idlers who vote me on the basis of "looking scummy" without stating why are people I'd have nothing against lynching.
Pancake's tunnel on me seem tway too blatant to be a scum play though that doesn't make it a good town play either.
Shubaka/smashlloyd are the people I want to go for.
Now if anyone that wants me dead would care to detail why, I'd gladly respond to it but it doesn't appear to be happening.

Vanillish Wafer while unvoting me is a good move from town, it is also something I expect scum to do as they need only watch town bandwagon on me while distancing themselves. I'm not forgetting you.
 
Unvote vote pancake

If this is TvT wagons pancake looks the worst by far since scum tend to split themselves over these.

I'm starting to think that may be the case because of some recent language by a lot of people settling on one of these votes and ignoring everyone else in the game. I also doubt scum blankslate continues to push Aubisio here, seems pretty independent. OTOH moody is way farther along indicating scum may have stake in the result so I want opinions on this.

Moody is clearly town right now so get your votes off and pick a real target, preferably mine.
 
Moody will not lose my vote till he stops pretending there haven't been details on why some people want him dead. I have rererererereiterated my qualms multiple times and I have this day at least 3 posts about this, including my giant read post. Also don't play the look how many people are voting you card, there are 19 player alive this game and there was nothing else happening, 5-6 votes who find you are scummy is not def scum pushing this lynch material.

Also Moody I can't believe you STILL WANT TO LYNCH SMASH. I specifically tried to not bring it up again just so scum may forget, but to call you out I will say we aren't lynching the public tracker claim, the mafia can deal with that one for us, if not he keeps giving us info on top of info.
 
Unvote vote pancake

If this is TvT wagons pancake looks the worst by far since scum tend to split themselves over these.

I'm starting to think that may be the case because of some recent language by a lot of people settling on one of these votes and ignoring everyone else in the game. I also doubt scum blankslate continues to push Aubisio here, seems pretty independent. OTOH moody is way farther along indicating scum may have stake in the result so I want opinions on this.

Moody is clearly town right now so get your votes off and pick a real target, preferably mine.

Honestly you are using no reasoning here. You are saying "pancake because moody wagon" when I'm not even ON the moody wagon and you are saying scum tend to split themselves, which is true but you have been jumpy as of late so I don't understand why you would change to me.

Just curious. I'd like more reasons than the ones you have currently.

I genuinely do not think Moody is town, and I'd really like someone to explain to me why they are. Blank Slate I can understand, his most recent actions have led me to believe he is just new rather than scum. But I really DON't understand Moody.

Unrelated note: Asek is town, good contributions that actually mean something.
 
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