Pokémon GO

OM! said:
Evolving during day = espeon, night =umbreon this is demonstrated through the coloring of map.
Source: after a google search I found the article https://www.google.com/amp/bgr.com/2017/02/21/pokemon-go-eevee-espeon-umbreon-day-night/amp/


So basically, you are using stardust on something that won't be as strong as the gyms you face. Hacks save people money on things they would spend dollars on to purchase pokecoins.

Remember, this is just a way to get 100 coins a day from having 10 good enough Pokémon that will stay in gyms, and catch Pokémon to catch up to stronger Pokémon that other players have caught. It's not like I'm hurting Niantic, 100 coins only buys an incubator every other day. It's not illegal, for all I know, people who use he hack wouldn't have spent money anyways, so no one can say that I prevented a sale.

Now in to some gym tips:
Basically the best method is to have a few Pokémon 2000-2500 cp that are strong enough to challenge gyms, while still being weaker than the gym'a lowest cp Pokémon, so you can lower the enemy prestige more or raise your team gym prestige more. (Having a lower cp team increases the amount prestige you earn, while having higher cp decreases the amount you earn or remove from a gym- based on your highest cp in your team to challenge the gym weighed against the lowest cp of the gym you challenge).

Then have up to 10 very high CP Pokémon to save for the gyms you plan to get coins from, without using them as attackers: this way you never have to worry about not having a potion or revive when you need to put your strongest in the gym- as anything you want to deposit has to be at full health.

The easiest way to do this is to have a nickname for the 2000-2500 cp Pokémon such as putting a ~ before the IV% such as naming a 91 IV Vaporeon: ~91%
You can then sort the Pokémon by name, letting your gym attackers come at the top due to their nickname, and you can determine which ones you need to use to challenge the gyms.

Lots of people challenge gyms without knowing the fastest ways to earn points or lower points, or worse, they raise a gym or defeat it, but can't put their best Pokémon in the gym because it isn't at full health.
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You don't diss Vaporeon in front of me. She's strong in GO with possible max CP exceeding 3100 and still one of top Pokémon, but more than that, I love her since little. It is my decision to spend my stardust on them and plan to drown this city with them. My top 3 Vapie still stay safe near me and I look to get more outstanding ones to drown gyms with.

Oh, and it IS illegal. The TOS says location falsification is cheating while we here literally walks to play. I heard in latest interview the N'tic higher-up does know spoofing is a major problem and he looks to find a way to block this.
Problem with what these do is that these are one of the reason gym stagnate in the first place. Starting from laziness, this makes unfair advantages that will gives the cheaters easy way to get strong things without doing much. This easily moves up the lowest CP threshold in gyms. This is why I oppose them and try to open up gyms for new players when I can; it's not just the devs hurt by giving away coins, but the new players unable to compete and enjoy the gym feature with that high levels.


At least I have specialized gym trainers. Umbreon and Lanturn works very well even at 1300. I always keep specific +/- 1400 mon as training team and operate training in these range and they work very well.
 
Fluke said:
Whoa didn't know this, thank you. So when I walked my Eevee for 10km and evolve it, will it be random whether it becomes Espeon or Umbreon?
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Err, I thought this is obvious for fellow trainer... but evolution depends on your local time.

I have to wait until evening now, I hope to get more generalist Umbreon....
 
OM! said:
The tips save time, and potions/revives so the tips are helpful.
Also many people just don't know how the points system work


You are saying cheating in Pokémon Go is a crime against law (not just the term of cheating and breaking a rule?)
I wasn't saying Vaporeon are bad, but they are the lowest of the good, like a substitute for when you don't have something better. (People use Vaporeon if they don't have Snorlax or Blissey for defending gyms, and people use Vaporeon if they don't have Gyarados for attacking gyms- Gyarados is preferred because it resists Rhydon's fast moves and 2/3 charge moves, and hits Dragonite hard with Dragon quick and charge moves).
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That's simply how I refer rules in fancy way. It still stands that this breaks TOS and thus illegal, on top of bringing negative effects to the metagame.

I'd rather use Vaporeon over Gyarados because they're actually tanky and could bring down many things before they're down themselves; Gyarados is not tough even with type resistance, most likely don't get STAB from anything but one of 6 sets, and at risk of eating Stone Edge, and worse choice against that stone kaiju; Vaporeon is simply a good generalist, I can even rip through 2 dragons with one mid-to-high CP one (hasn't tried this better one). And high HP coupled with now annoyingly quick charge moves (HPump, ATail) could annoy things while I don't have other things like 'lax, and unlike the unholy triad of high CP things, she has no double weakness and is not going down so quickly. Dragon? Ice it. Saidon? Water/Grass it. Gyarados? Elec it. The only downside is high healing usage due to her HP, which isn't a problem with abundance of healing supply I have as long I don't let her faint.
No one is going to stop the river from flooding gyms.
 
PsychicAcademic said:
Err, I thought this is obvious for fellow trainer... but evolution depends on your local time.

I have to wait until evening now, I hope to get more generalist Umbreon....
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Yeah, the day/night thing would've been obvious for me if Niantic didn't add so many unlogical stuff to Pokemon GO (such as having to walk 10km with your Pokemon in order to be able to evolve it, movesets that don't exist in the main series, Ground-type attacks able to hit Flying-type Pokemon, Normal-type attacks able to hit Ghost-type Pokemon, my 2500 CP Gyarados getting beat by a 2000 CP Rhydon despite hitting him with a Hydro Pump, you name it).
 
I've been doing gyms again for a few days and I find them really fun. However, I'm having a lot of trouble with dodging moves. The entire thing seems so buggy and glitchy. Only sometimes the move name shows up before the attack happens (which is how it's supposed to be I guess) and even then I can't always dodge. I'm swiping like a maniac, but sometimes either my Pokemon doesn't move OR I swipe perfectly and I still get hit. Let alone when the move name doesn't show up at all, and a move happens out of nowhere.

I really want to get better at this and contribute to some gyms. How do you guys do this?
 
Fluke said:
I've been doing gyms again for a few days and I find them really fun. However, I'm having a lot of trouble with dodging moves. The entire thing seems so buggy and glitchy. Only sometimes the move name shows up before the attack happens (which is how it's supposed to be I guess) and even then I can't always dodge. I'm swiping like a maniac, but sometimes either my Pokemon doesn't move OR I swipe perfectly and I still get hit. Let alone when the move name doesn't show up at all, and a move happens out of nowhere.

I really want to get better at this and contribute to some gyms. How do you guys do this?
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Well, I keep getting my team better as well as my dodging reflex and other stuffs. I dodge even smallest thing and I still have moderate difficulty against something as instanteous as HPump and SEdge (especially when either my phone or the internet lags). Having key attackers help; I often use Vaporeon to clean up things and several anti-measure against top defenders like Jolteon (anti-rados), Venusaur? (Anti-water+don), and so on, while still looking for more members like Fighting-type to break Blissey.

Dodging is important for survivability. Knowing when to dodge, particularly heavy charged attacks, will help prolong the team's survivability, important thing on high level gym battles. One way of this is to measure when do the opponent approximately have enough to shoot their charged attacks. Measuring this helps me predict and avoid sudden HPump. I don't even trust the game showing the move's name and only rely on defender's attacking rhythm; the "supereffective" message may block it anyway.

Choosing suitable Pokemon with suitable set to one's battle style will help. One thing I like about Vaporeon is their short quick attack enabling easy evasion for the "dodging a lot" player. There can also be hard-hitting mon with slow quick move that can still get into the opponent's rhythm.

Of course, stats matter. Higher CP/Level mon can clear out things faster than the lower end ones. I keep a legacy dragon and a good Vaporeon (and a lot more not outstanding ones) and various other species to attack gyms. Teambuilding to counter a gym is important, don't ever trust the preset team unless it's down to just one.
 
PsychicAcademic said:
Well, I keep getting my team better as well as my dodging reflex and other stuffs. I dodge even smallest thing and I still have moderate difficulty against something as instanteous as HPump and SEdge (especially when either my phone or the internet lags). Having key attackers help; I often use Vaporeon to clean up things and several anti-measure against top defenders like Jolteon (anti-rados), Venusaur? (Anti-water+don), and so on, while still looking for more members like Fighting-type to break Blissey.

Dodging is important for survivability. Knowing when to dodge, particularly heavy charged attacks, will help prolong the team's survivability, important thing on high level gym battles. One way of this is to measure when do the opponent approximately have enough to shoot their charged attacks. Measuring this helps me predict and avoid sudden HPump. I don't even trust the game showing the move's name and only rely on defender's attacking rhythm; the "supereffective" message may block it anyway.

Choosing suitable Pokemon with suitable set to one's battle style will help. One thing I like about Vaporeon is their short quick attack enabling easy evasion for the "dodging a lot" player. There can also be hard-hitting mon with slow quick move that can still get into the opponent's rhythm.

Of course, stats matter. Higher CP/Level mon can clear out things faster than the lower end ones. I keep a legacy dragon and a good Vaporeon (and a lot more not outstanding ones) and various other species to attack gyms. Teambuilding to counter a gym is important, don't ever trust the preset team unless it's down to just one.
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Hmm yeah, thanks for the tip. Dodging is the only thing I am having trouble with, and I found it's very important indeed.
 
OM! said:
https://pokemongopocket.com/dodge-every-pokemon-move-pokemon-go/
Here is a helpful article.

Also, are you using frail Pokémon? If you end up with say a Arcanine, use that over a Flareon. Also, even though flareon have higher CP. I find the best Fire type is Arcanjne (fire gang and fire blast are perfect moves), because Flareon don't get Fire Fang, which is the best Fire quick move, and the higher defense and HP allow Aracanine to last longer.

Same goes for Venusaur or Exeggutor over Vicrteebel and Vileplume.
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Thanks, very helpful indeed. I didn't even know Earthquake was dodgeable :o
 
Well, good thing they keep relying on the unholy triad (well, now quartet) of high CP things. I actually still keep using Jolteon thanks to people stacking multiple Gyarados to be zapped in a row, (or Clefable? with its resistance to everything else Gyarados throws, both are decent against dragon too). That stone monster is laughing stock to my cute Vapies while I lack Fighting (will love finding great warriors to obliterate it with Blissey too). And also good thing that Eevee is much more frequent than Chansey in most places that high Blissey is much rarer. Once I got past that I'd rather have breather mon than thicker ones (still chooses facing two Gyarados over one Vaporeon, and I can still often slip her behind the wall and still make it an annoyance).

Once one knows the enemy set after first run, it'd be even easier to plow through the enemy with even better built team. But at least I like to put something of little more weight than just mindlessly put high CP paper.
 
OM! said:
http://imgur.com/a/dVIk0 Now this is worth bragging about
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Holy shit, is that you? If yes, that's impressive as heck. I've only encountered one (1) Larvitar yet. Those pals are rare as fuck.

Also:

I really really really feel like this game is punishing me for playing. I've walked so many Eevee to 10 or more kilometers. I've also hunted for a lot of pretty good 90% or higher IV Pokemon. Evolved them all, this is what I got:

Espeon - Zen Headbutt / Psybeam
Espeon - Zen Headbutt / Psybeam
Espeon - Zen Headbutt / Psychic
Umbreon - Snarl / Dark Pulse
Charizard - Wing Attack / Dragon Claw
Charizard - Ember / Dragon Claw
Victreebel - Acid / Leaf Blade
Alakazam - Psycho Cut / Shadow Ball
Gengar - Sucker Punch / Dark Pulse
Gengar - Sucker Punch / Dark Pulse
Dragonite - Steel Wing / Hyper Beam

Man at times like these I just want to quit and move away from the entire thing. You know how much work went into this? **** Hanke and Niantic, really.
 
Larvitar doesnt even spawn here... and 2 of my gyms have been taken down and low and behold Ttars and Blissys... THEY DO NOT SPAWN HERE, fed up of these randoms with fully powered up super rare junk. level 30 guy with a 3083 Dragonite AND a 3128 Ttar.. please...
I can still Brag because i got 100% IV Dragonite and this piece of OP http://i.imgur.com/RdyE745.png
Gyarados? I only have 4 of those.... nearly 5 now.. just casually walking around the city pinaping many magikarps.
 
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OM! said:
Yes that was me. I suggest doing what I did. You can google the tutuhelper YouTube videos, since I cannot post here any direct links, as you saw my post was deleted and also google Poke sniper for coordinates.

I wouldn't cheat if the game was realistic in letting you accomplish things with a good chance of succeeding naturally.

Remember, Niantic initially only gave Togetic a 1% catch rate, until people on Twitter caught on, and whined about wasting 20 razz berries and 20 ultra ballS, not including throw misses, then after the backlash it was increased to 5%, so really a rare Pokémon with ultra and razzberries is hardly catchable? Luckily I caught mine on my second try, but still... and that's if you are the exact right place at the exact right time with enough items, and without it fleeing.

Here's how you win:
When you use what I use only get Dragonite and tyranitar line Pokémon, this way all the candy and stardust are invested in the best. Eventually you will be able to take down gyms and put your top Pokémon above the gym Blissey and stay in the gym for days, weeks, and cash in on the 100 coins/5K stardust a day which allows for purchasing incubators 2/3 days from day 2: (100+100=200 coins-150 for incubators=50 +100 for day 3= 150 for incubators-150 =0).
Then you can try to hatch 10 km eggs and get dratini and larvator for more candy and stardust or just catch them with the coordinates.

Then eventually when you have 9 good ones fully maxed out after a few weeks, you catch Chansey and evolve her with the coordinates and just save candy to evolve and power her up.

The great thing about the methods I used is that sometimes you get coordinates for the final evolution, so a Dragonite instead of a dratini, this way you just saved 125 candy because you won't need to evolve! (Or 123 if you count the free candy per evolution). Plus if you save the ultra balls and berries that double candies, and throw ultra balls you get 20 candy per catch, not just 10 (or 3 per dratini).
Imagine catching a Gyarados without needing 397 more candy to evolve a magicarp?

I used to be a fair player until my magicarp that I walked and caught and did all the right things, evolved with Twister... pointless...

Anyways, catch what works so you can catch up to what everyone else has caught on to.. gotta catch 'em all! Especially the regional exclusives you cannot get any other way, like a Heracross.
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Mate, you realise that what you're doing is cheating, right? Not only do I personally disgust cheating, Smogon does as well. So if I were you I would be careful.

The entire charm of this game is to go out, explore, meet people and play. I personally despise your way of playing. Because not only are you breaking the TOS, you're also ruining the game for others. Yes, you are, because other people who play legitimately won't ever be able to compete with you because of how you are playing. I hope you stop putting your Pokemon in gyms.

I take back what I said - I don't find your Pokemon collection 'impressive' or 'something to be proud of' at all. In fact, I look down upon you.
 
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Fluke said:
Umbreon - Snarl / Dark Pulse
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Actually, Umbreon is good for gym training. I got 3, one with Dark Pulse (Evil pulse?) and hasn't tried it, but statistically with the other 2, Umbreon is so tough and easy to see why it's best general gym trainer. I heard that quick move is good one already. But yeah, Niantic rely too much in randomness with their ace being discovery and "catch as many as you can" while throwing other aspects (particularly training as DHR said and caring Pokemon) out of the window. Evolving is something to fear instead of something exciting....
I admit, the other two are both Snarl/Foul Play?.


Also, cheating affects the metagame. Period, I don't want to repeat myself. I have said that the amount of the strong things obtained from cheating nudges the metagame quicker than it should've been. Like phalanx said, "All they did is put Blissey", that (with the other high CP lords) is how the metagame gets stale too quickly.
And when do pure player owe gym slots to the cheaters when what they do is filling it with high CP things, setting the CP threshold highly for pure players, and overall makes the game more difficult than it should've been? Most often than not a gym full of cheater would not be usable for the lower end players who can't compete at all, and worse when it's all full, fully denying their access to the gym feature. Heck, I remember in my last family trip to nowhere, there are somehow all high towers and shame I didn't have enough great 'mon and supplies at that time (bag capacity wasn't full yet) and we were just passing through anyway. It would actually be an accomplishment when a pure player can compete against cheater, but then again it is aside of the point; cheating ruins the game and that's all needed to know. To follow other cheater into cheating oneself is a foolish act.
I don't think I have the time to argue about it any further, I have many assignments as of now and just felt like failing an exam....

But oh well, as someone who is also in one of top centre (while playing purely), I see them (at least rival team ones) as my harlequins to please me and be broken with my Vapies. It all just takes innate knowledge about Pokemon and little strategy, and then I can even be relevant with no good things like Kabigon. Except for those in the same team, I can't touch them, tchi....
 
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PsychicAcademic said:
Actually, Umbreon is good for gym training. I got 3, one with Dark Pulse (Evil pulse?) and hasn't tried it, but statistically with the other 2, Umbreon is so tough and easy to see why it's best general gym trainer. I heard that quick move is good one already. But yeah, Niantic rely too much in randomness with their ace being discovery and "catch as many as you can" while throwing other aspects (particularly training as DHR said and caring Pokemon) out of the window. Evolving is something to fear instead of something exciting....
I admit, the other two are both Snarl/Foul Play?.


Also, cheating affects the metagame. Period, I don't want to repeat myself. I have said that the amount of the strong things obtained from cheating nudges the metagame quicker than it should've been. Like phalanx said, "All they did is put Blissey", that (with the other high CP lords) is how the metagame gets stale too quickly.
And when do pure player owe gym slots to the cheaters when what they do is filling it with high CP things, setting the CP threshold highly for pure players, and overall makes the game more difficult than it should've been? Most often than not a gym full of cheater would not be usable for the lower end players who can't compete at all, and worse when it's all full, fully denying their access to the gym feature. Heck, I remember in my last family trip to nowhere, there are somehow all high towers and shame I didn't have enough great 'mon and supplies at that time (bag capacity wasn't full yet) and we were just passing through anyway. It would actually be an accomplishment when a pure player can compete against cheater, but then again it is aside of the point; cheating ruins the game and that's all needed to know. To follow other cheater into cheating oneself is a foolish act.
I don't think I have the time to argue about it any further, I have many assignments as of now and just felt like failing an exam....

But oh well, as someone who is also in one of top centre (while playing purely), I see them (at least rival team ones) as my harlequins to please me and be broken with my Vapies. It all just takes innate knowledge about Pokemon and little strategy, and then I can even be relevant with no good things like Kabigon. Except for those in the same team, I can't touch them, tchi....
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Regardless, cheaters from other teams would conquer gyms you put Pokémon in, regardless of your own team cheaters. At least if you put Pokémon in a gym with high hacker Pokémon it discourages them from suddenly wanting to take over your gym.

I see your point. I hope you see mine, which was trying to prevent someone from quitting altogether because they found playing fairly to be unrewarding.
 
OM! said:
I see your point. I hope you see mine, which was trying to prevent someone from quitting altogether because they found playing fairly to be unrewarding.
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I see, sorry for being so rude towards you. I understand your point, but it's something I personally (and 99% of all Smogoners amongst me) won't ever do.

You know, when the game already feels so unrewarding, and people also start using methods I'm fully against, I just want to drop this game. But the stupid me who likes anything Pokemon related just can't.
 
the game is based on biomes, so if something like a Blissey turns up in an area where everything that counters Blissey is rare... then it is broken, I booted up a scanner last night and scanned my entire area (was late so not really going to go catch anything) including the clefairy biome, there were a whole 2 machops spawned, no larvitars, no exeggcutes, just the usual biome based common junk. and yet in one gym right now there is a 3128 cp tyrannitar, and given everywhere is the same biome until the city (which is water...) then it has no purpose being there. Chansey is super rare, Larvitar is super rare.. yet one guy on my team has a 100% IV blissey with 2966 cp...
 
I was using it to prove a point, not to cheat, I did nothing with the information gained, because as I said, it is my local area, I know what spawns at these places, I was using it to gather some quick data, at a time not reasonable to be wandering around (late at night), and I got the information I required.. ZERO Larvitar.. yet some blue guy has 2 powered up Ttars.. because a different one turned up in the same gym I cleared one out of.
the chance of being banned for using this tracker is zero.. as it isn't using alt accounts.. and I am using my PC (not my phone.. hence not using it to look for anything) I am using this information to find spoofers.

I actually did some wandering today as there was a gym I wanted near a large park I visited last week, found a Diglett nest just randomly down a path, (shame it is Diglett, but nice to know of the existance of another local nest) didn't go into the park though, which seems to be a Magikarp nest.. added both to Silph road. Only went down the path as it comes out near where I wanted to walk up, as there was a shuckle nest there, and I got one, been waiting a few days for one to spawn there, well not waiting.. just checking sightings as it has a pokestop.
 
they are not traveling through, they have been taking gyms for a few months, and trust me, I know the area.. the biomes are all the same, Larvitar isn't a nest poke and the clefairy biome is the only reason the mass ownership of dragonites isn't suspicious, having 1 T-tar maxed out is suspicious enough.. but 2? even with lucky hatches, is A LOT of candy.
 
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