NOC Why is there a gun in my popcorn? GAME OVER SCUM WIN

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Thing about leet is Josh scumread them very early on, then switched to townreading them, then didn't mention them at all for the last however many cycles. It's really weird behavior honestly, and idk what exactly to make of it
 
Flyhn said:
Also, why me specifically? Empoof was the first one to tr me this game, i was his TOP townread, and he ended up clear early on. I didn't enter my near-universal townread position until he was clear iirc.

And that one town is the LOCK town candidate. Look at how many people townread me. Not just those three. So many people, i'd imagine of both alignments, want ME to be the locktown final townie, so they're taking advantage of that fact and trying to remove me
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Looking back on some posts and this one stands out to me. In response to me accusing flyhn being a possible scum with pancake he pulls the card of empoof townread him in order to justify his universal town lock position being okay even though it would be backed up by a lots of possible scum since this was before the pancake flip.
 
also if somehow a decent amount of king_ moody hitmonleet/fh and maybe ag flips town I think we should take a look at sam+asek being a possible scum team cause that asek post reading sam as town feels really fucking weird to me.
 
Thetwinmasters said:
Looking back on some posts and this one stands out to me. In response to me accusing flyhn being a possible scum with pancake he pulls the card of empoof townread him in order to justify his universal town lock position being okay even though it would be backed up by a lots of possible scum since this was before the pancake flip.
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I didn't use it to justify my townlock. I used it for why I believed scum were trying to set ME SPECIFICALLY up as the townlock in this weird wifom plan.

I may have to chronical every non-me post that mentions me to see if I can find scum patterns within my townlock... reverse bandwagon i'll call it. Planning on doing that if ISOs alone aren't enough, if i'm shot at any point doing that will become my priority
 
something interesting about the moody josh connection is that pancake put moody as scum but he had no reasoning for that shot and put him behind king_ and fh. Think that is because he is trying to get town credit for when moody gets shot.(Also something of note hitmonleet also said moody was scum but didn't reason much and put him on the bottom also.) Pancake also said hitmonleet was towny for poor reasoning imo.
Think it could be hitmonleet+moody scum buddies but I'm going to take a look at hitmonleet's posts
 
Yeti said:
just curious but what is your rationale for this as your town core, together
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It makes no sensr in my opinion for twin and sam to ever be on a scum team. Twin has consistently discredited sam and pushed onto him, hes also held this attitude towards flyhn. Unclesam and flyhn dont really have a strong connection off of tge top of ny head but its more of an independebtbtown read of all 3 and it being tgst it makes little sense for them to be scum together

Twin can u please tell me what thr $500 thing is with king
 
i find the twin-king interaction rather... interesting.

twin had been slightly more active than fort for most of the game prior to jalmont getting the gun; it felt like there was a vanishing of fort and a sharp spike in twin activity after that shot.

even still, king subs in and we have twin's by far most direct and typical interactions, all oriented around getting king to scumslip or not by twin's admission.

i think king's frustration seems pretty genuine, but that could be either from a town perspective who feels unfairly tunneled or mafia who barely got to read the thread before this dude comes flying at him.

it's also hard to say if twin came at this from the perspective of town looking to easily clean or reveal someone as he said, or as mafia who wanted to try and bait out an easy shot onto king. i think there are even circumstances mafia!twin goes SO HARD on mafia!king to try and clean himself for revealing king; supported by, in retrospect, fort and w-d followed a similar pattern of making a 'good' reads post to get pressure off them but otherwise not contributing.

i think moody is a better shot than king and especially twin rn but if by some chance moody flips town, he should instashoot king/fort who by process of elimination i think absolutely has to be mafia if moody+DBW were not. if king is truly miraculously not mafia at that point, twin is a very good shot for him. if king is mafia, which would be much more likely, we seriously discuss the twin interactions.
 
Former Hope said:
Honestly, with what Flynn (?) Found on josh to moody, moody does honestly seem like the best shot
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Now that's a straightforward push

I'll sit back and look into Josh/pancake interactions from earlier

King seems very defensive which looks weird but he is also getting incoherently aggressive while defending himself, leading me to buy the emotional town outrage narrative over the scumslip one.
 
Yeti said:
i find the twin-king interaction rather... interesting.

twin had been slightly more active than fort for most of the game prior to jalmont getting the gun; it felt like there was a vanishing of fort and a sharp spike in twin activity after that shot.

even still, king subs in and we have twin's by far most direct and typical interactions, all oriented around getting king to scumslip or not by twin's admission.

i think king's frustration seems pretty genuine, but that could be either from a town perspective who feels unfairly tunneled or mafia who barely got to read the thread before this dude comes flying at him.

it's also hard to say if twin came at this from the perspective of town looking to easily clean or reveal someone as he said, or as mafia who wanted to try and bait out an easy shot onto king. i think there are even circumstances mafia!twin goes SO HARD on mafia!king to try and clean himself for revealing king; supported by, in retrospect, fort and w-d followed a similar pattern of making a 'good' reads post to get pressure off them but otherwise not contributing.

i think moody is a better shot than king and especially twin rn but if by some chance moody flips town, he should instashoot king/fort who by process of elimination i think absolutely has to be mafia if moody+DBW were not. if king is truly miraculously not mafia at that point, twin is a very good shot for him. if king is mafia, which would be much more likely, we seriously discuss the twin interactions.
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in the situation king_ flips scum and moody flips town give me a reason for scum me to throw pancake under the bus
 
I'd shoot Twin, Yeti, Sam, Asek in that order if I were to receive the gun.
I've been basically ignored by everyone except a few, most of my questions haven't even been answered.
Twin - scumreads me because he "believes" this is my scumgame because of DBZ and Deathnote but doesn't give examples. Still won't give reads and completely ignores everything I say but constantly ask for elaborate reads.
Yeti - I still think she is likely scum because of the connection with Sam and the massive wallposts early on. (If you want to see why go ahead and reread the thread because I'm not going to do it again just to find a few posts)
Sam - Really lackluster this game this shouldn't be given a pass. My biggest question is still "Why wasn't he the first gunbearer"
Asek - He has a lot of connections to Sam and Twin which I find very odd and doesn't scumread them at all which is also weird.
I'm not a good choice to shoot right now because I'd 100% just shoot in this order unless one of them slips or something. I'd rather not risk myself. I think you should already be able to see for yourself but basically everyone in the game scumreads me. I'm trying really hard not to be "useless".
 
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