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NOC Why is there a gun in my popcorn? GAME OVER SCUM WIN

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Blazade Walrein King_ Moody

These are who I would shoot today

Walrein more because DLE was obv mafia than him (he's been pretty much null)

Blazade because this is definitely Blazade's scum meta at this point

King_ because Fort Colorcastle was mafia and he plays the same way no matter what he is

Moody because he is lurking constantly and isn't consistent in his reads at all

Idk who the last mafia is but Former Hope, Aura Guardian, and Hitmonleet probably contains it. I like Twin / Flyhn / Asek / Yeti at this point and don't think any would be anything but a mistake shot

As for why Yeti looks clean to me now it's because she has gotten more involved lately and that's definitely more her town meta, she is driving discussion a lot more and was against winter-delta a lot which I doubt she would be if she were on the same mafia team

Twin has maintained activity when it would've been easy to let things die so I'm willing to give his bad play the benefit of the doubt

Asek more or less the same boat tbh

Flyhn has actually been active no way he is active as mafia in this scenario gj Flyhn keep it up

Right now order of shots I would take is: Blazade = Walrein ~> (slightly greater than) King_ = Moody > Aura Guardian ~> Former Hope ~> Hitmonleet >> Asek ~> Yeti ~> Twin ~> Flyhn

I can promise you I will not be much more active regardless of how many times you ping me twin I am busy with a lot of work stuff rn and that's not going to change in the immediate future
 
Walrein more because DLE was obv mafia than him (he's been pretty much null)
Blazade because this is definitely Blazade's scum meta at this point
King_ because Fort Colorcastle was mafia and he plays the same way no matter what he is
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These 3 statements are just blatantly shit reasoning and straight up not true.
 
... which leaves the following players: UncleSam, Walrein, Blazade, two scum one town.
I find these four players the hardest to read, perhaps because I consider them among the better of the players in the game, perhaps because they're all idling fucks, besides walrein kinda. I find Blazade the most likely town out of them but that's kinda just a gut read w/e post more please, especially US and blazade.
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This line from pancake is really not a good look for blazade because blazade as scum tells his teammates to try to avoid associating with him as much as possible and this line from pancake looks like a way to try avoiding going in depth about blazade but still try to spread the idea that blazade is town.
 
Thetwinmasters said:
This line from pancake is really not a good look for blazade because blazade as scum tells his teammates to try to avoid associating with him as much as possible and this line from pancake looks like a way to try avoiding going in depth about blazade but still try to spread the idea that blazade is town.
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This is an interesting take but I guess you're right in that in bulletproof I was a bit controlling with the likes of then-newbs Whydon and shubaka. I'm pretty sure I told them not to give me empty town reads though.

Again I don't assume I'll survive to the end of this game so I expect to be in the driver's seat at some point.

I'm very curious why US says iDLE is scum though, I was under the impression that that was his town meta. Pinging people and trying to control discussion with questions tends to be his scum meta.

moody's most recent responses are making me question my intuition on him as well, like even if Josh wasn't trying to get "town cred" moody still wouldn't be acting like this. Twin's point on pancake was also a fresh perspective because I didn't look at pancake too closely, so I feel a little more comfortable with a moody shot today.

I still think AG is a solid shot, mostly because it reads like he's just trying to contribute for the sake of contributing. I get a slightly uninformed vibe from the tone of some of his statements but I know he plays a confident scumgame and I'm just not reading an active town agenda in what I'm seeing.
 
"AG- Asked some good questions in the beginning, but after that it was, 'I think/don't think x is...', ':quotes post: this changes my views on x... ...' , and recently an iso of moody. conclusion of that was: don't shoot him, I think he'd act a fair bit different. why do you think so ag? my stance: basically fh (on a smaller scale) without the tunneling, and without dragging others into arguments. scum by policy, since I have fh SRed."
This read from wd on ag rly makes me lean AG is town.
 
leet's directness and focus on FH is something i don't think happens as mafia. otherwise his connections to flipped scum bother me but not as much as the other two

honestly if king_ hadn't subbed in i would've shot him already probably
 
You've doing well so far and I'd rather not have you die
Also I'm still confused and would still likely shoot Unclesam because of these

Walrein more because DLE was obv mafia than him (he's been pretty much null)

Blazade because this is definitely Blazade's scum meta at this point

King_ because Fort Colorcastle was mafia and he plays the same way no matter what he is

Moody because he is lurking constantly and isn't consistent in his reads at all
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A lot of empty statements without evidence and reads based on meta/meta on the guy who was subbed out for them, these doesn't feel right to me
 
pancake said:
lol what the fuck ok

you're making a really bad decision, King_ is pretty clearly scum as well as former hope, neither of them have reads with any content while mine clearly do, and I don't understand your reasoning because you haven't posted it... unless i missed it from earlier in the game.

when I get gun I shoot former hope 100% unless if someone convinces me that king_ is more scummy.
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This is interesting, I assume pancake might've been bussing someone here since if one of those turned out to be town pancake would've most likely been shot right then and there.
 
Thetwinmasters said:
Yeti why do you think king_ has to be mafia if moody flips town
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idk how many times I have to say it in my reads posts that I have suspected 2 if not 3 of the people under the idling cucks category would be mafia. there's less to townread them on, similarly to scumread, but i find inactivity more likely to be lazy mafia (sam) or inexperienced mafia (w-d/moody/king).

based on who i think likely scumbuddies could be plus who i just plain don't scumread much, if by some chance moody is town, i REALLY don't see a way the fort/king slot wouldn't be mafia.

conf town:
me
jalmont

no huge scum suspicions:
leet
former hope
flyhn

wary/reasons to suspect:
blazade
dle/walrein
asek
twin

almost certainly scum:
moody
king
ag
sam

doesn't shock me if there are all 4 remaining in this last group, but if not, i would pin king as way more suspicious than anyone in the above 4 should moody flip town. should king be shot first and flip mafia i would still shoot moody next. either he's town and shoots my next target unclesam who i also think is mafia, or he's mafia and it makes me reconsider if sam is mafia by the way moody has been on him all game.

if bamboozle occurs here i think blazade and walrein should be seriously grilled. asek townreading sam and somewhat defending him when sam has been a commonly given shot target just feels weird; maybe asek just isn't familiar with how unusual this is for sam, as village, to be so inactive. blazade has been idle, unlike him, except to pop in and be like 'sure i'm a good shot from everyone's pov' which feels like he's trying to reverse psychology with how apathetic he is towards being shot.
 
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