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NOC Why is there a gun in my popcorn? GAME OVER SCUM WIN

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In otherwise your inclined to convolute it to wifom.

See, the big hole in that story of yours is if I had such a position, I'd be way more active and seeking a lock town position by actively outing scum instead of seeming detached.
 
Not really no, I'm making note of scummy things I see but otherwise I'm more concerned with not having a town die by shooting me.

So make up your mind, am I the mafias designated town mole who multiple scum have pushed or not
 
I can answer that.

Scum only need to say things that make sense at the time. They'll sometimes push, and sometimes not, on their buddies, but they'll try and latch onto things they find noticeable no matter what.

There's too much WIFOM in here lol
 
And to clarify, discerning other people's motivations especially when there have been flips makes for great scumhunting but it sucks when you use it on yourself for reasons that should be clear. So stop doing it.
 
Mafia v Mafia actions throughout game

Aura Guardian said:
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Town
Josh - Has been active and thoughtful. I mostly agree with him on what he's said thus far.

Scummy
Fort Colorcastle - was pro-Haruno before Haruno was gunbearer, so I'm not against him for that any more. Hasn't posted much lately though, so I maintaim my negative read on him.

Scum / low-risk shots
winter-delta - Another idling scum just like shubaka.
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Fort Colorcastle said:
2. In alphabetical order: Aura Guardian, DBW, Former Hope, UncleSam, Winter-Delta.
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Fort busses AG and W-D here but also has town of me and DBW

Okay, I'm getting bored. But I read back from pages 10-38 and my thoughts from that is that Moody was pushed quite a bit early in the game in a way that other scum weren't be, then they flip midgame and start to push moody right when other scum were starting to get bussed.

Also US has been pretty aggressively targeted by mafia since the start of the game in a way that makes me doubt their scummyness (or moody's concept of one scum member they agree to all scum read early on applies to US).
 
for the record i'd be absolutely SHOCKED if every single member of the scumteam was bussing

some of them would have been bussing, others probably wouldn't be

distancing is important, not just in reads but in thought processes as well

hint: if a bunch of people look like they're pushing a similar agenda, look at those people closely

unrelated to above: Yeti is there any reason you can think of to scumread me aside from inactivity
 
Yeti said:
don't get me wrong fh's playstyle there is awful but walrein is in no position to call fh out for it when hes held his dick since subbing in
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ok so this bugs me

yeti has been soft shading former for most of the game, more or less scumreading him the whole time. yet here, when i finally crawl out of my hole to call him out on something, yeti does this nice little bit of deflection

like, why does the fact that my activity was previously lacking impact the legitimacy of my read? like, at all? just because i've been afk doesn't mean i can't occasionally make a good point

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don't get me wrong, i've been townreading yeti. i'm STILL townreading yeti. she's one of the only people still effortposting (aside from the occasional asek)

this pings me, though. if former gets shot and flips mafia, i'd encourage people to take a look in that direction
 
I write my own screenplays and still have the time to post in this game so ???

and also read it accurately; fh has been a lean town most of the game for me. I have been disliking his posts more and more lately plus I find it imperative to be critical of everyone left alive at this point in the game.

fh has been in my lowest shot tier most of the game then moved up to second lowest. mostly in relation to moody/leet flipping any certain way + some bad fh posts in the later shots.

narrative shifting = top scumtell.

I mean sure if fh is mafia go reread my posts since it'll enlighten you to crap you just have totally wrong. lol.
 
MoodyCloud said:
I planned to make a big post and quote Auraguardian posts and everything but I'm just too lazy so

Unclesam - has been pushed by AG for a while now, evidence points to him being town but in a fragile way, has made shot pools with 1/2 scum among 4 people, nothing that convincing but far from my top shot atm

Yeti - a lot of people seem to want that slot to never be shot, evidence backs town!yeti but I get a weird vibe from her posts, I'll put that on paranoia and agree to not shoot I guess

Asek - still hasn't answered #1451 about why his shot pool changed completely

Blazade- Fairly hard evidence and interactions pointing to him being town, could always be a mole of course but I have no reason to not put him in my town pool

Walrein - I have no idea but I feel like the odds of him being scum are high

Former hope - I had a big scumread on him but his cocky attitude when threatened of being shot and Twin leaving us with an enigmatic "don't shoot him he's 85% town" that I wish he had explained better make me hesitate. By process of elimination there seem to be less evidence saying that he's town than most others so I guess he's in the "might be scum" pool

I'd shoot FH and Walrein, Unclesam being next
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this is not a good post

the unclesam and yeti reads are hedgy af, the asek "read" is one salty statement but apparently still a townread? the blazade read is fine, i've made similar lazy townreads as town. can't say a ton on the me read since it seems to be the same as everyone else's me read. the former hope read actually feels fairly organic? but it's not good

MoodyCloud i'd like to hear elaborations on your mindset re: sam/yeti, and for you to fully explain your thoughts on asek
 
Yeti said:
I write my own screenplays and still have the time to post in this game so ???

and also read it accurately; fh has been a lean town most of the game for me. I have been disliking his posts more and more lately plus I find it imperative to be critical of everyone left alive at this point in the game.

fh has been in my lowest shot tier most of the game then moved up to second lowest. mostly in relation to moody/leet flipping any certain way + some bad fh posts in the later shots.

narrative shifting = top scumtell.

I mean sure if fh is mafia go reread my posts since it'll enlighten you to crap you just have totally wrong. lol.
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hmm

well then

i guess my skim game isn't quite as powerful as i thought it was if i misremembered that

lolme
 
as for your question

dle had a very typical scum idle meta, he popped in with some hot takes (the "need 1 lock town to win" and hard tr on me when it was unpopular to) but never explained anything. I think he could've been easily setting up this idea for his teammates to try and push one of their own into that slot. dle has almost nothing tying him to people, though what there was was a red herring IE dbw hard defending him, which lowered dle's scum odds to me a bit when dbw flipped town.

you continue to have very few definitive ties to people. some have said dle idling is town, too, but for the most part your slot is never strongly read. I think rereading to see how the flipped scum treated you is necessary to determine how avoidant they were to your slot. I guess this is tied to inactivity but let's be real, people without strong relationships to others whether by idling or not are very suspicious for WHY there are no strong ties. I know you've made posts but I don't find any of them memorable or pushing anything. that complacency to make relatively undriven posts is sketch.
 
Yeti said:
as for your question

dle had a very typical scum idle meta, he popped in with some hot takes (the "need 1 lock town to win" and hard tr on me when it was unpopular to) but never explained anything. I think he could've been easily setting up this idea for his teammates to try and push one of their own into that slot. dle has almost nothing tying him to people, though what there was was a red herring IE dbw hard defending him, which lowered dle's scum odds to me a bit when dbw flipped town.

you continue to have very few definitive ties to people. some have said dle idling is town, too, but for the most part your slot is never strongly read. I think rereading to see how the flipped scum treated you is necessary to determine how avoidant they were to your slot. I guess this is tied to inactivity but let's be real, people without strong relationships to others whether by idling or not are very suspicious for WHY there are no strong ties. I know you've made posts but I don't find any of them memorable or pushing anything. that complacency to make relatively undriven posts is sketch.
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wrt to dle: i can think of multiple games in which town!iDLE occurred. off the top of my head, last year's MU championships wildcard game stands out. obviously not definitive and still WIFOMmy to anyone except me, but that's the best defense i can make of DLE

as for the latter: have you ever known me to be someone that pushes aggressively? i've always been a more laid-back player, regardless of alignment. sure, i'll call people out on shit, but i'm not a huge fan of getting into a knock-down drag-out slugfest (that's what i have you and sam for lmao).

also it's hard to form connections when i'm barely in the thread LOL
 
bleh i wish we had a definitive example of blazade's scumgame

if we could solve blazade's alignment this game would be so much easier

but as it stands it's impossible to know if his play this game is due to scum meta or legitimate inactivity
 
I want sam and moody shot before you esp now that ag flipped scum but compared to asek, I think your slot has less to warrant actually town reading it. if sam/moody aren't just straight the last 2 scum I see fewer things to suggest you wouldn't be one, than would be. same with blazade. fh is very dependent on moody's flip to how strongly I feel he's town or scum. I find them extremely unlikely teammates.
 
Yeti said:
I want sam and moody shot before you esp now that ag flipped scum but compared to asek, I think your slot has less to warrant actually town reading it. if sam/moody aren't just straight the last 2 scum I see fewer things to suggest you wouldn't be one, than would be. same with blazade. fh is very dependent on moody's flip to how strongly I feel he's town or scum. I find them extremely unlikely teammates.
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agree w/ the bolded lol. asek probably still my strongest townread atm

i'm still struggling to figure out if moody is mafia or just floundering villager. being aggressively Wrong on things is kind of his town meta lol

as for sam... i'm not gonna lie, i frequently have trouble reading him. he's really good at faking a villager tone as mafia, and he's experienced enough that he can manufacture good-looking posts as either alignment. the lower activity is the only thing i have to go off of and i know for a fact he's busy irl. so imma cede to your judgement on the yung edward
 
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