NOC Matrix 12 NOC - Game Over, Mafia Wins

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I think Knights' content can be summed up by "beating around the brush", the only thing that caught my attention is his case against Shubaka which was interesting, rest feels like going circles and giving townreads. Doesn't look like anyone agrees with me about the Knights lynch, even Texas who had been suspecting him d1 iirc and didnt want to lynch King back then which I'd like him to explain.

King doesn't look like as bad a lynch as Haruno was since it will give some info but I still feel like it's not as informative as Knights/Ullar, will settle for it if it comes down to it but I won't lynch Leet/shubaka/FH unless someone explains how it would bring as much info on Ullar/King.
 
i agree with you. knights' content is bad and doesn't warrant the townreads ppl like hawkie and ironicdouble gave it. nobody suggested to lynch fh. leet is scummy as shit and intentionally lurked during the haruno lynch which is hilarious.
 
AHHHHH EVERYONE IS TAGGING ME WHY

Hawkie said:
knights has been super analytic today, i like it so far and wouldn't lynch ^^




Hitmonleet is another story. This ISO literally looks like a half-assed attempt to fake an SR on a townie, all he does is comment on the length of josh's posts at first, zilch about the content. After that it's just commentary, yawn. This has me thinkin' he's been staring at josh's posts wondering what the fuck do i write lol. While josh hasn't the done the best job of explaining things I literally can't see how Hitmonleet manages to SR him the most over the other targets.

hwg Lynch Hitmonleet
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I'll be honest, I was intending to actually pull of a real ISO, but I a) lacked the time, and b) people kept pinging me and harassing me to post more, so I had to just post that before I'd get subbed for inactivity.

My final read was more of my thought on him after I had read the rest of his posts. If you want, I can go and literally do the rest of the ISO right now, if you people will stop threatening to lynch me over trying to do what I said I was doing.

Also, I hate to look like an idiot, but what's SR?

Hawkie said:
this one is somehow worse. Reading through the tone is very suck upish, i mean the first line is literally compliment.

"I'm personally leaning towards the former, since s/he's actively provoking discussion, making reads, and providing reasoning, which maf commonly seems to either forget or do a shoddy job of providing, ime."

this in particular has me fukin shook. This is literally the textbook description of any good player, not an assessment of how Asek has been playing themselves.

AND IF YOU NOTICE ---------> "providing reasoning, which maf commonly seems to either forget or do a shoddy job of providing, ime."

holy actual mother of mafiascum what the fuck is this LINE LOOK AT HIS LAST POST. HIS LAST POST IS LITERALLY A POST TRYING TO PROVIDE REASONING ON JOSH WHICH HE DOES A SHODDY JOB OF PROVIDING

AND TO TOP IT ALL OFF HE LITERALLY TYPO'S TO IME

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I suppose I should clarify. By "providing reasoning", I mean "Providing logical, intelligent statements that have evidence to back them up". If that isn't your definition of "providing reasoning", then that's what I meant.

YOU GUYS NOT GIVING ME TIME = I DON'T HAVE TIME TO ACTUALLY ESPOUSE UPON MY READS = SHODDY LOGIC.

Also IME = In My Experience. Fite me m8.

Alright, gonna talk about Hawkie soon, but first Thetwinmasters votecount?
 
you failed to address the fact you gave a bread and butter example of how to fake townread a good contributor + sucking up to him + basically everything i mentioned.

you've given excuses. Bad
 
Votecount
King_ (3): Josh, Texas Cloverleaf, Blazade
Shubaka17 (2): KnightsofCydonia, King_
KnightsofCydonia (1): Moodycloud
Hitmonleet (1): Hawkie

Not Voting (7): Pancake, Ironic Double, Hitmonleet, Asek, Ullar, Da Letter El, Shubaka17
 
Hitmonleet said:
AHHHHH EVERYONE IS TAGGING ME WHY



I'll be honest, I was intending to actually pull of a real ISO, but I a) lacked the time, and b) people kept pinging me and harassing me to post more, so I had to just post that before I'd get subbed for inactivity.

My final read was more of my thought on him after I had read the rest of his posts. If you want, I can go and literally do the rest of the ISO right now, if you people will stop threatening to lynch me over trying to do what I said I was doing.

Also, I hate to look like an idiot, but what's SR?



I suppose I should clarify. By "providing reasoning", I mean "Providing logical, intelligent statements that have evidence to back them up". If that isn't your definition of "providing reasoning", then that's what I meant.

YOU GUYS NOT GIVING ME TIME = I DON'T HAVE TIME TO ACTUALLY ESPOUSE UPON MY READS = SHODDY LOGIC.

Also IME = In My Experience. Fite me m8.

Alright, gonna talk about Hawkie soon, but first Thetwinmasters votecount?
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Why, you come back and your first post is a statement targeted towards everyone who's just trying to play the game and lynch the scum. This post honestly seems like a bunch of filler, with you saying "stop harassing me" and explaining what IME and other things mean. Then to top it off you say your going to talk about Hawkie...you said that literally the other day. It seems your trying to postpone us from lynching you by putting off answering someone who actually SRs you like Hawkie.

I'm going to wait for Hitmonleet to speak about Hawkie before I make my final lynch tommorow. Requesting for Hitmonleet to actually answer Hawkie without the single use of CAPS lock. Thank you.

RE: I made the majority of this post one hour ago but had to go do an errand. I'll read some more comments after I do one last errand.
 
MoodyCloud said:
Last thing I want is to go after someone like shubaka, see him flip town and end up back at square one, in that regard I want a lynch that is, at worst, informative.
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MoodyCloud said:
unvote vote Ullar start talking
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Do you think lynching a lurker (Ullar) is really an informative lynch? If he flips town, won't we also be at square one? I really don't get your logic here.

Man this game is dead just like Game 28 lol
 
MoodyCloud said:
Last thing I want is to go after someone like shubaka, see him flip town and end up back at square one, in that regard I want a lynch that is, at worst, informative.
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That's why I ran the Asek iso, it's part of tomorrow's scumhunting done today. I think it's unlikely such a blatant scumtell would come from a Townie, but if it did, that'd be the second of two Townies reading an either/or on Asek and King. I don't think I can ignore that.
 
reads list as I read the game

Hawkie + Asek are the same faction and I'm 99% sure it's town because of the interactions regarding Jalmont on page 3, even though hawkie's sudden shift in 487 is a little weird I sure wouldn't bus one of the best mafia roles day 1 lol. They are my town core.
I add Ullar to this because iirc ullar's sarcastic remarks and brutal honesty are main cores of his town game, and he was honestly just fine under pressure. I also add king_ because saying king_ is scum "because he's a fucking idiot" just doesn't cut it (he's not as dumb as people make him out to be) and he actually explained his reads for once and they made SENSE, i think the page is like 21 or smth
Finally MoodyCloud makes my strongest town reads list due to his analytical playstyle recently that I expect of town moody, and honestly 670
Former Hope/ironic is playing extremely scum meta early game, he is not usually this jumpy in regards to lynching and not nearly this harsh when he is town. Also leet's "I'm confused!" post somewhere within the first 10 pages (I think it's like page 9) is really bad and 90% of the time people who post shit like this are either new (not leet) or scum trying to get people to clear up their reads so they can jump on a corresponding wagon or attack someone as scum by interpreting something they say during this "explain to the player" period so yeah he's on my scum list as well. The final scum for me is either blazade or texas. Blazade's early posts were really bad for him and he hasn't posted much recently but the posts had legitimately no content at all. Texas has been hopping from easy wagon to easy wagon all over day 1, like in recent post 689 where he tries to make his post sound analytical but fails by just randomly deciding to sheep king with josh.

The rest of the people are less solid reads for me, I don't think KoC is scum but moody is correct in that he's a decent lynch regarding tvt in yesterday's arguments. More tomorrow when I'm not tired.
 
I've explained why king is scum and you trying to brush it off is hilarious. hawkie + asek being the same faction is nonsensical, just say they're your strongest town reads if they are. pancake is probably scum.
 
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