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NOC Matrix 12 NOC - Game Over, Mafia Wins
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Hitmonleet You said to expect more from you in the weekend so now's your chance
I mean, that's what I'm currently trying to do.
I'm not going to say this again. you. were. on. the. thread. viewing. it. during. eod1. why did you not post anything at all? I was out with some friends and I still pocket posted. and stop disrailing with ate, idgaf how busy you are, if you sign up for a game you should be able to post a bit. nocs are not time consuming like ocs to the degree where you can't post anything at all when you still have the time to open smogon.
I've never flip flopped regarding fh.
yeti is scummy as fuck with a garbage entrance and still has not impressed me. you've basically done nothing productive all game. I tried giving king a chance and lynching you, because I got town vibes. his response was to continue to be unbearable (I had to ask him 3 or 4 times before he gave his opinion on you or yeti) /and/ scumread me explicitly for not tunnelling him. that is not a valid reason to scumread someone but what it did do is tell me king is too shitty a player to move forward with. I was really really unsure of which of you 3 was the scummiest and king tipped the scale. in hindsight, yeti was probably wking him but like I thought king was better than this from memory. even in popcorn his play was better than this. additionally, I asked him many many times to justify attacking a townread personally and he kept ignoring me. after his attitude around me giving him a chance I gave up. I'll probably avoid him in the future but that's not here nor there.
yeti is scummy as fuck with a garbage entrance and still has not impressed me. you've basically done nothing productive all game. I tried giving king a chance and lynching you, because I got town vibes. his response was to continue to be unbearable (I had to ask him 3 or 4 times before he gave his opinion on you or yeti) /and/ scumread me explicitly for not tunnelling him. that is not a valid reason to scumread someone but what it did do is tell me king is too shitty a player to move forward with. I was really really unsure of which of you 3 was the scummiest and king tipped the scale. in hindsight, yeti was probably wking him but like I thought king was better than this from memory. even in popcorn his play was better than this. additionally, I asked him many many times to justify attacking a townread personally and he kept ignoring me. after his attitude around me giving him a chance I gave up. I'll probably avoid him in the future but that's not here nor there.
That actually makes some sense. Unvote. You're still suspect to me, but your explanation does make sense.
Also, I've attempted to be productive, but everyone ignores what I ask them, so nothing comes of it.
Yeti does seem a bit suspicious, now that you're mentioning it, but I'm going to look over some posts real quick.
Ullar's posts with the repeated use of that monkey picture were extremely pure. They didn't feel like caught for the wrong reasons or looking for an agenda or anything i'd consider scummy.
DLE's small number of posts were either very good villagery mindmelds or showing townie opinions.
Like I could be wrong but both of those slots felt super duper pure town.
Blazade I'm having a hard time with you because your voice this game feels flat. I don't see your opinions coming from a spot of either townie reevaluation or actual scumhunting. You seem to just have your thoughts to have them which is why I scum read you. They have either not matched what I feel the game state was at the time or just felt devoid. I'm going to be looking at your posts the most this phase and really get to know what put what you think there
Hitmonleet if you had a dayvig shot that you had to shoot in 3 minutes who would you shoot
her* it seemed fine. I wouldn't consider it insanely good or anything but I don't see it as hot garbage like you said. It kind of felt like yeti was taking a backseat while having incomplete information. While we were in thread near EoD she felt townie (before i had read ullar)
Yeti's entrance that Josh mentioned. It's a very ...decisive entrance. A lot of definite scum and definite town in their opinion, which feels very odd. Especially when you scumread one of the biggest townreads in the game, along with 3 of the most active players, it just feels like attempting to sow a lot of discord. I don't like it. They then townread Hawkie without much fanfare, which just feels like they're attempting a concession to appear less suspicious. This, combined with Ullar's prior antics, makes me want to Vote Yeti atm.
Empoof I suppose this would be my shot.
ok i can't tone read this right now but thanks for the response. See ya'll later
I mean that's fair I've been pretty detached this game what with everything going on for me and all the subs forcing me to reevalute shit. It's only going to get worse on that front from here tbh.
That's also a fair point on Ullar I tend to have a real blind spot for silly stuff like that and cut straight to saying it's NAI. It hasn't changed my mind but your argument is noted.
As far as agenda is concerned there are definitely bigger players, you're right. I'd be looking at Josh/Texas/the Yeti part of the ullar slot/you for that (my read on those being null/slight lean town/scum/town) respectively
Huh, didn't know that. Should be obvious why I'm lynching you, you and king were my top scum reads as at eod
Ok so:
I think there's attacks on Yeti, Josh, Leet? Did I miss anyone?
Hawkie why are you so energetic <3, but uh ?_? at the consecutive posts with conflicting messages.
I think there's attacks on Yeti, Josh, Leet? Did I miss anyone?
Hawkie why are you so energetic <3, but uh ?_? at the consecutive posts with conflicting messages.
#1324: im not changing my read again Unvote Lynch hitmonleet
#1325: unvote
#1326: i take it back Moody is town
#1327: before we lynch off hitmon we NEED to pressure these idlers and explore other options im going to the gym back later bye
what does moody being town have anything to do with that?_?#1325: unvote
#1326: i take it back Moody is town
#1327: before we lynch off hitmon we NEED to pressure these idlers and explore other options im going to the gym back later bye
Could someone pls explain the connection between [Aubisio/DLE slot being townread], [DLE saving Ullar], and [Yeti being less suspicious]?
If its super obvious, then I'm dumb get over it and spoonfeed me.
In my posts yesterday I had postulated a game solve with both Yeti and DLE. I was strongly scum reading yeti for similar reasons as Josh, augmented by dle's late vote that pushed the d1 lynch to a tie, resulting in haruno's death. I saw this as a scum buddying situation. If DLE/aubisio are town though, that motivation to save ullaryeti is no longer there and thus it makes yeti less likely to be scum in spite of her opening.
I'm going to take that with a grain of salt because I don't think you realize you might've tilted him first.
Okay I see how I mucked up the formatting. Gonna repost the latter part for readability.
I think the second theory could be possible. Assuming you and I are both Town, I'd keep an eye on Papercake and Yellar slots along with Hitmon.
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Looking over King yesterday and compiling the data, I looked closely at Asek, Ullar, and Josh for the possibility of intentional provoking.
Asek might not have been intentional. Rereading it, it looks like King might've gone off when Asek quoted Haruno in 308. I'm weighing it against his expressed interest in seeing Ullar and King fight, but 308 would have had to be very calculated in order to pull off a provoke that otherwise seems accidental.
Possibility: Only if Light Yagami levels of calculated
Ullar didn't focus solely on King. The fight with Hawkie needs to be taken into consideration as well. I don't see much difference between the two fights, other than one being called ahead of time and the use of pictures in the other. The general vibe of exasperation suggests these are fights he wouldn't willingly have started.
Possibility: Only if forced
Josh is deadlocked into his own ego and playing the game as if differing opinions are scumtells. You'd have to dig deep to find scum-aligned agenda under layers of personal motivation.
Possibility: Only if scum gone rogue
I think the second theory could be possible. Assuming you and I are both Town, I'd keep an eye on Papercake and Yellar slots along with Hitmon.
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Looking over King yesterday and compiling the data, I looked closely at Asek, Ullar, and Josh for the possibility of intentional provoking.
Asek might not have been intentional. Rereading it, it looks like King might've gone off when Asek quoted Haruno in 308. I'm weighing it against his expressed interest in seeing Ullar and King fight, but 308 would have had to be very calculated in order to pull off a provoke that otherwise seems accidental.
Possibility: Only if Light Yagami levels of calculated
Ullar didn't focus solely on King. The fight with Hawkie needs to be taken into consideration as well. I don't see much difference between the two fights, other than one being called ahead of time and the use of pictures in the other. The general vibe of exasperation suggests these are fights he wouldn't willingly have started.
Possibility: Only if forced
Josh is deadlocked into his own ego and playing the game as if differing opinions are scumtells. You'd have to dig deep to find scum-aligned agenda under layers of personal motivation.
Possibility: Only if scum gone rogue
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