NOC Matrix 12 NOC - Game Over, Mafia Wins

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I'm trying to say it without putting too much insult into it, because insults don't do any justice in describing you. You seem very self-motivated in playing and winning and I don't think that jibes with scum teamwork.
 
but I'm not playing with ego or as if differing opinions are scumtell...? if I was playing with ego I would not have given king a chance and I guess the second part is about yeti but yeti isn't scum for having different reads, she's scum for having bad reads and poor posting all around. empoof has different reads and I'm not scumreading them.
 
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but I'm not playing with ego or as if differing opinions are scumtell...? if I was playing with ego I would not have given king a chance and I guess the second part is about yeti but yeti isn't scum for having different reads, she's scum for having bad reads and poor posting all around. empoof has different reads and I'm not scumreading them.
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I'm having a hard time getting out of my head and reading you objectively rather than subjectively.
 
NOTE: I do not know the cutoffs for King's D1 sliding scale readslist. As such, the nullread entries marked with "scale" might not be accurate.

KING

Players who Townread King
Walrein (D1a)
Moody (D1)
Haruno
Hitmon (D1)
Paper (D1b)
Knights (D1)
Former (D1/2)
Walrein (D1c)
DLE (D1)
Pancake (D2)
Yeti (D2)

Players who scumread King
Josh (D1/2)
Asek (D1/2)
Shubaka (conditional; D1b)
Texas (D1/2)
Moody (D2)
Blaz (D2)
Ironic (D2a)
Hawkie (D2)
Fort (D2b)

Players who nullread King
Blaz (D1; put him in lynch pool)
Ullar (D1)
Shubaka (either/or statement; D1a)
Paper (?; D1a)
Jalmont
Walrein (D1b)
Fort (D2a)
Ironic (?; D2b)

Players who King Townread
Josh (D1)
Texas (D1; originally "weird")
Shubaka (D1c)
Hawkie (D1)
Blaz (D1)
Knights (D1)

Players who King Scumread
Shubaka (D1a)
Haruno
Asek (D1)
Walrein
Paper (D1)
Ullar (D1)
Shubaka (D2)
Josh (D2)
Texas (D2)
Hitmon (D2)
Knights (D2)
Ironic (D2)

Players who King nullread
Moody (scale; D1)
Jalmont (scale; D1)
Former (scale; D1)
Shubaka (scale; D1b)
Hitmon (scale; D1)
AubLetter ("no read"; D1)
 
HARUNO

Players who Townread Haruno
Hitmon
Josh (might be conditional)

Players who Scumread Haruno
Jalmont (starts with chainsaw)
King
Shubaka
Walrein
Blaz (D1b)
Hawkie
Knights
DLE
Asek (D1b)

Players who nullread Haruno
Blaz (D1a)
Asek (?; D1a)
Ullar

Players who Haruno Townread
Aubisio ("almost willing to believe")
King
Ullar

Players who Haruno scumread
Aubisio (rvs)
Knights (brief vote)
Walrein
Shubaka
Asek
Hitmon
Texas

Players who Haruno nullread
none
 
I'll say it again does anyone else find josh's victim complex disingenuous???

He's a very active aggro player so I feel he should have a bit of a thicker skin esp against petty noc spats that always crop up. Obviously nobody should be personally attacking in a mafia game or taking it beyond the posts but I don't consider knights' post to be doing that at all and I don't really remember king from rereads. How Josh keeps emphasizing king attacked a strong town read as if ppl just shouldn't ever question strong town reads (popcorn says hi) or engage negatively with them also seems extremely odd.

Can you personally attack strong scum reads? I just don't get why it's relevant to point out how people had been reading Josh when complaining about king going over the line. "Don't get personal" should apply to everyone regardless of alignment or reads.

Idk what do other people make of this. To me it seems Josh is over blowing how town he was read and using it to justify a mislynch onto king.

I don't scumread the rest of his posts as much but every time he plays the victim re: king I get a massive wave of suspicion
 
Way too many people are fine voting hitmonleet way too early.

Idk if that makes him the designated bus or another easy mislynch the mafia are behind.

Id rather focus on who the mafia could be shuffling attention away from by this early rush onto leet esp if you assume he is actually village.

If everyone just kind of waits 3 days to hammer leet that's a wasted day even if he is mafia. So let's discuss other people.

I am sure some buffoon will try and spin this as me defending hitmonleet. Have a go if you really want to reveal as scum. Lmao
 
strong town read as if ppl just shouldn't ever question strong town reads (popcorn says hi) or engage negatively with them also seems extremely odd.
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questioning town reads is different from mindlessly insulting town reads for completely not game related reasons.
 
Why would I as hitmonleet buddy even make that post when he could have easily hit majority by now off all the people willing to vote him

Dank wifom????

The mafia would have no reason to try and save him with that many votes flooding in early. It doesn't even make sense to pub reveal in defense of him if I know he's going to be flipping mafia at the end of this day

No I just don't want to let hoodlums slink by with no pressure feeling the lynch is already "decided" ESPECIALLY if this is another mislynch
 
yes mafia do have reason to save him? that's a member? you don't go "oh, he got 5 votes, abandon ship!". more directly, I believe you are trying to play to your meta and intend to say something like "i hard bussed last game this makes no sense?????????" which you already kind of did so yay?
 
This Josh tunnel on me as a DANGEROUS THREAT IF MAFIA because I scumread him in my opening post (defying "consensus" town read is scummy apparently?) And that's a "horrible entrance" really seems like he wants to get tf rid of this slot now that it has a competent villager.

If Josh actually is town he surely must be realizing he has some hardcore omgus going on for scumreading me for scumreading him but instead doubles down.

This is some solid :rolleyes:
 
nobody stated intent to hammer leet or to quickvoted him, I know I personally explicitly stated that's why I wasn't voting him. you're arguing against nobody and that's why it's easy for you to win.

any sentence that starts with "why would" wrt the mafia is literally already answered and you're smart enough to know that. stop with that bullshit.
 
My town meta is to "defend" or at least question mislynches onto people who fail to defend themselves for whatever reason so I make that post as village. My town meta is to also not let idling cucks go unpressured.

Not conclusive sorry kiddo
 
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This Josh tunnel on me as a DANGEROUS THREAT IF MAFIA because I scumread him in my opening post (defying "consensus" town read is scummy apparently?) And that's a "horrible entrance" really seems like he wants to get tf rid of this slot now that it has a competent villager.

If Josh actually is town he surely must be realizing he has some hardcore omgus going on for scumreading me for scumreading him but instead doubles down.

This is some solid :rolleyes:
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I'm officially deathtunnelling you now. gladiated. I am now 1v1ing yeti. lynch in us today. if she flips town lynch me tomorrow. if you lynch me you lynch her tomorrow no fucking excuses or wifom bullshit. thanks.
 
Lol way to extremely obviously misrepresent what I said.

There ARE enough people willing to vote hitmonleet he COULD have majority right now IF they all voted.

Not people are actually going to hammer him rn. The quantity of people who would be willing to vote leet makes him an extremely poor choice for another mafia member to try and defend and they would blend in much better putting support for his lynch. Even if they don't vote him... :thinking:
 
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