NOC Matrix 12 NOC - Game Over, Mafia Wins

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KnightsofCydonia said:
I want to hear your gamesolve, Josh.
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gamesolves this early are trash

fairly sure you (knights) and fcc are town

hitmonleet and yeti are hyper scummy

texas is now a scum lean but not a strong one

Moody is town

asek is town

hawkie I think is town too

ironic double and pancake is a dynamic that needs to be looks at cus I think it's probably tvs

I want to town read empoof but shubaka holds me back so it's null

I can't read blazade
 
Yeti said:
Lol way to extremely obviously misrepresent what I said.

There ARE enough people willing to vote hitmonleet he COULD have majority right now IF they all voted.

Not people are actually going to hammer him rn. The quantity of people who would be willing to vote leet makes him an extremely poor choice for another mafia member to try and defend and they would blend in much better putting support for his lynch. Even if they don't vote him... :thinking:
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so you admit your post was useless. thanks.
 
You know for someone who doesn't want to be personally attacked you sure waste a lot of time in NOCs setting up 1v1 me Bros that do nothing but waste time and lead to mindless mislynches.

Your issue with king was he was SO unhelpful to town and would never be any use alongside the attacks.

Forcing a 1v1 on d3 after two mislynches that could be another tvt is anti town and unhelpful and worthless.

You are not doing anything to further the village win.

I imagine you are pretty confident I will be the one mislynched today instead of you. Or you wouldn't have bothered with this. Maybe you're even fine trading yourself for 1 experienced town in the lynch as long as I get lynched first. 1 for 1 is generally a poor exchange for mafia though.

That said trying to force this 1v1 takes a lot of pressure off anyone else. Because why discuss them when we have this retard tunnel to resolve!!!

You aren't being helpful to the village. At all. Reconsider your choices if you're actually town and just tried to butt blast king for the exact same thing.

Now let's discuss other people and be productive.
 
Yeti idk why you're so concerned about the build up on the hitmonleet, having open wagons is far better than having no wagons. It's a clear basis point for discussion and pressure and any wagon, especially one that starts at the beginning of the day can be undone just as easily.

Talk to me about your game though. Have you re-read the full thing yet? Who are your top town reads? What about my game are you confused about?
 
Yeti said:
You know for someone who doesn't want to be personally attacked you sure waste a lot of time in NOCs setting up 1v1 me Bros that do nothing but waste time and lead to mindless mislynches.

Your issue with king was he was SO unhelpful to town and would never be any use alongside the attacks.

Forcing a 1v1 on d3 after two mislynches that could be another tvt is anti town and unhelpful and worthless.

You are not doing anything to further the village win.

I imagine you are pretty confident I will be the one mislynched today instead of you. Or you wouldn't have bothered with this. Maybe you're even fine trading yourself for 1 experienced town in the lynch as long as I get lynched first. 1 for 1 is generally a poor exchange for mafia though.

That said trying to force this 1v1 takes a lot of pressure off anyone else. Because why discuss them when we have this retard tunnel to resolve!!!

You aren't being helpful to the village. At all. Reconsider your choices if you're actually town and just tried to butt blast king for the exact same thing.

Now let's discuss other people and be productive.
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I have never done this before actually. I am that confident you're flipping red.

my issue with king was that he did blatant anti town things SUCH AS irrelevant insults and scumreading someome breaking out of a tunnel

I tried to avoid his mislynch, he forced my hand

1 for 1 is always poor for mafia. I am like 60% sure you'd get lynched today out of the two of us but I don't even care. you keep acting like you're some godly player when you are a decent one who wallposts, you wouldn't be some great terror to scum josh and IF I was scared of you id probably just kill you

you are flipping red. this is not negotiable. we lynch in myself and yeti. she isn't bullshitting out, she's getting roped.

I said my read on every player in case I dont have time later and I end up getting lynched. you're not getting out of this. if you're town im probably just not gonna play anymore on this site because I'd obviously br horrible at reading the site meta differences over here from ms. however, you aren't gonna flip town, and if your scum team includes leet you're probably worried about having to carry which is why you keep trying to derail this 1v1.
 
I don't agree with the reads on Texas (requires bussing from Jalmont) or Empoof (#mutualchainsawneverforget), but this shows Josh has been thinking outside his tunnels. He seems like he's been scumhunting and is ready to go down swinging. I don't think Josh would put his neck on the line like this if he was scum, since he'd either be pushing his own lynch next or outing himself and getting roped anyway if he tried to back out of it.

This level of chutzpah is breaking Townie for me.
 
I've been waffling on Texas a lot, the prob is he is normally much less passive and sheepish, he's not really doing anything this game and I expect Texas to be leading discussion or at least generating it
 
I've been waffling on Texas a lot, the prob is he is normally much less passive and sheepish, he's not really doing anything this game and I expect Texas to be leading discussion or at least generating it
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
Yeti idk why you're so concerned about the build up on the hitmonleet, having open wagons is far better than having no wagons. It's a clear basis point for discussion and pressure and any wagon, especially one that starts at the beginning of the day can be undone just as easily.

Talk to me about your game though. Have you re-read the full thing yet? Who are your top town reads? What about my game are you confused about?
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It concerns me that people are going to slink along behind "leet is the obvious lynch" and use that to avoid other members of the mafia being caught out

BTW notice how Josh has totally removed leet from lynch contention with this 1v1. Lol.

I haven't reread fully I was writing GUZ postgame yesterday; I'll be reading today.

Top town reads are Asek and Knights I think both are too active and motivated to interact and do work to be mafia.

I get Knights could be spouting about bs notes that don't exist and chainsaw defenses nobody else cares about as a way to Look town but he feels genuine to me.

I think the Pancake slot is town.

I like Empoof so far.

Blazade is a mild scum lean rn.

What bothers me about you is all of your mind meld posts. I do need to reread to see if it's almost entirely you doing the "i second that" stuff or if you and Josh kind of trade off on who buddies who. The former is obviously more scummy to me. I dislike this behavior because I find it allows you to cozy up to town and put yourself out there as echoing their ideas without originating them on your own or justifying the view from your own perspective.

I'm gonna shower make food then reread
 
Josh said:
titus... is not the highest esteemed player. smart person tho.

if you're practicing being Titus I should be lock town because every game I've played with her (3 scum 2 town iirc) she's had me as lock town
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You're lock town unless you do a specific thing that makes you lock scum

In the last game she was talking about the value of towns working together as opposed to independently pursuing their own scum reads. About working with their town reads and being willing to work with the intelligence of the whole. I'm trying to work that into my game play, that and specifically avoiding distancing behaviours that isolate players from each other.

Been trying to pull in New aspects to my play with each new game
 
BTW notice how Josh has totally removed leet from lynch contention with this 1v1. Lol.
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that's not what a 1v1 is.

I want to call out this as a partner slip (hitning at for when leet flips scum i should be lynched) but I guess that's reaching
 
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