im feeling like my scumread on blazade was misplaced but i always scumread him in some fashion. cant wait for the borderline illiteracy lightwolf will add to this thread
ironicdouble im less certain about.
part of why i scumread these two so strongly was bc i was obv much less certain about leet being mafia and they didn't really make sense as his teammates. they made sense together, i think, and certainly as mafia trying to get a mislynch onto town!leet. with this proven false it makes me a lot less certain.
i do have a townread onto pancake who was p sure id was acting out of meta but i waver on this bc a lot of other people have pancake as scummy.
i dont think i want to push this into an actual 50/50 that one has to be scum, though. i think max 1 is scum between them but after the flip im no longer certain it IS one scum between them.
id subbed in for a slot i didnt see as particularly scummy bc i see former hope's town meta as being scummy (always gr8) and only then hard pushed leet. that kind of certainty that id wouldnt need to consider any other reads or pushes strikes me as Odd coming from an unfamiliar player.
also someone questioned earlier why subs would have the same reads as who they sub in for
thats how you get a consensus town; just by the number of people in the game versus number of scum both parts of a slot are gonna have to agree on some townreads unless one is mega paranoid and scumreads everyone (read: lightwolf). also if they find certain behaviors of another slot scummy, maybe not even the same behaviors, both sides of a sub could scumread one slot
the sudden decision of id to go onto leet as hard as id did when fh didnt seem to do much about leet pings me as way weirder.
i feel pretty comfortable saying theres a scum between fcc/knights/texas. the leet scum flip makes texas look clearer wagon-wise but his brain dmged scumteam suggestions today among other reasons give me great pause. does he stage that squabble with jalmont AND push leet both on d1? then continue that after jalmont flips scum? ma a a aaybe if texas is feeling super confident that jalmont + leet flipping scum after he had a confrontation/push will falsely clear him.
i think this is unlikely and thus i consider fcc and knights both higher priority targets.
the fcc slot had more than we've seen from aubisio in most other nocs combined plus dle doing his normal flyby hot takes (including hard townreading my slot as always) and then fort came in and has been unremarkable but also comparable to moody
speaking of part 1, im surprised nobody's trying to push me and fort as a scumteam due to that dle driveby/ullar save in the d1 wagons. it'd be wrong, but i'm still surprised.
speaking of part 2, moody is someone i think shouldnt be given a pass. putting leet at l-1 could be noobtown 'mistake' in that it let leet hammer early or it couldve been requested by leet and (last partner) to let leet hammer before we could discuss more. moody is the clear choice to be the one to vote to l-1 assuming the other partner straight up isnt on the wagon already bc nobodys gonna believe moody had malicious intent or awareness of the l-1. nobody even called out leet hit l-1 and could thus self-hammer iirc so this is pretty innocuous and a tinfoily point to bring up. however since i have to reconsider my prior strongest reads im gonna be looking at moody in some detail.
i had a strong townread on knights when the game began and also felt pretty cool about asek being town. ive flexed a bit on asek but come back around to town. i see a lot of EoD activity and involvement that contrasts sharply with leet. it cant be ignored asek has also been pretty nully on leet and not in favor of lynching him, certainly not on d1/d2, and this could also be interpreted as a partner slot. i find it Odd the people who are gucci with me being a leet partner for this same reason dont really consider it for asek. i dont think its true, fwiw, just inconsistent.
i think my knights read is waning. the reasons i felt knights was town before didnt exactly manifest how i expected in the thread. knights has done some work but i did the same as scum in popcorn and knights as the host may have picked up a few things on how to hustle town.
i also dislike knights' tunnel onto empoof and now vote onto asek. I Get knights' logic behind the shubaka scumread but i think it carried on a bit long as well as had several problems. that linked site with scumtells has many that apply to smogon villagers commonly and to knights himself in setup spec i believe. i think the asek vote is an odd choice today and pretty unsupported unless you believe asek has been lynchshifting away from hitmonleet on d2.
KnightsofCydonia
"Asek - Took a strong stance against the massread on Hitmon. An obsessively strong stance. This 2 cd compilation includes such classic scum hits as "X is worse at abc, so why not lynch X?", "these widely Townread players are suspicious for scumreading him", and that oldtime favorite "get in here and do stuff or I will scumread you". Snark and pop culture references aside, she's firmly in my lynch pool."
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what bothers me most about these knights votes is how they let him stay out of the main wagons. knights took a stance! voted his strongest scumread! every day! but then parked his vote on empoof for like 2 days and i feel like used this as an excuse to step away from the main wagons going on. now that empoof has claimed bpv (and lets be real knights was totally gonna go on empoof again today) he picked a fairly common townread in asek (but not SO common as josh as to be totally unbelievable) that would again let him sit back and skate the main wagons, presumably.
