NOC Matrix 12 NOC - Game Over, Mafia Wins

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I think both Asek and Moody's interactions with Hitmon show scumteam ties, Asek more blatantly and Moody as scum who tried to mix Hitmon in with his white knighting but had to go with the flow in D3 when the wagon became too strong. Moody also has some interactions with Jalmont (including an overreaction to Jalmont's flip), so my vote is likely to switch between the two of them.

Pulling quotes on the posts I cited in my read on Moody.

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Hitmonleet Please answer Asek asap because you're sliding into lynch territory

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Like you've literally had all of d2 to contribute and now you're going after Hitmonleet ?

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Dislike the shifting of attention away from King onto Hitmonleet
I'm falling asleep so good luck with that
See you day 3 hopefully
 
Hm I like that Knights can cite his sources even if I think his reads are Bad

If he's town I'm gonna have to look at the hard bussers as most likely scum again FailFish pls no

Interesting hawkie reads post left me off it then never replied about it when I've been a scumread. I assume hawkie copied my own post that had me removed but forgetting one of your scumread is ?
 
Part of me thinks Knights' recent charge against the Leet defenders (Asek/me but not Yeti? did I miss something here) is justified from our reluctance to lynch him and part of me thinks this adds to the scumKnights getting desperate for a mislynch onto people largely townread. In the situation we're in I'd have nothing against lynching Knights after the contradiction in his voting pattern (voting Leet d2 but not d3). I think it would make more sense for scum to not vote Leet d2 and bus him d3 when he's pretty much toast though
 
Definite food for thought. I think the theory of Sacrifice Play Scum Mk II would require the player to be the second goon. SPSMkII could also be considered gamethrowing if player is acting from a position of little pressure. Hitmon's sacrifice play comes from being pegged as scum from D1 onwards. The same actions from a non-lockscum player would be wasteful if it occurs while the player is still not lockscum.

Add to that the fact that scum's disadvantage would increase with a sacrifice forcing a solo carry.

It doesn't mesh with the concept of Fort's slot as stealth scum, either, since Fort sacrificing himself negates the advantage of coasting.
 
:addingtinfoil: I think you're not in that bad of a spot right now :P

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I don't see myself voting outside of yeti and fcc rn
do you think we are scum together?

same to Empoof

cause if so you are saying the starting mafia roster was jalmont/hitmonleet/flyhn/aubisio

and that is probably one of the worst possible teams from this game's original playerlist. aubisio and flyhn are notorious idlers, leet is newer and can't make himself be townread when he is town, and jalmont has a notoriously bad d1 as any alignment.

if i randed that as a host i would 100% switch out 1 of flyhn or aubisio for a better player or just rerand the game entirely. flyhn-as-mafia requires a tryhard starting on his team to either guide him or just straight carry him when he never posts in their team pm (source: walrein multis). he can play fine as town these days but in GUZ he was the first scum downed lol

just... chew on that team.
 
LightWolf pancake hey dudes whats up any thoughts???????????

josh and asek have probably the best EoD activity and involvement in the game in terms of prodding people to vote/be active and being present; another reason to sideeye the knights scumread onto asek
 
do you think we are scum together?

same to Empoof

cause if so you are saying the starting mafia roster was jalmont/hitmonleet/flyhn/aubisio

and that is probably one of the worst possible teams from this game's original playerlist. aubisio and flyhn are notorious idlers, leet is newer and can't make himself be townread when he is town, and jalmont has a notoriously bad d1 as any alignment.

if i randed that as a host i would 100% switch out 1 of flyhn or aubisio for a better player or just rerand the game entirely. flyhn-as-mafia requires a tryhard starting on his team to either guide him or just straight carry him when he never posts in their team pm (source: walrein multis). he can play fine as town these days but in GUZ he was the first scum downed lol

just... chew on that team.
you could possibly be scum together. I'm not really looking for partners rn, just scum in general. so, no, my votes aren't correlated.

and twin already said the game was rngd (as it should be). attempting to balance the game manually is common on smogon but I know ms never does and idk about mu (id hope they wouldnt). rng means the game doesn't turn into host spec
 
i agree it should be rnged

but i would re-rng a team that weak

jalmont is a good player but his apathy for d1 is a liability i think people give less of a pass for after serial killer dbz
 
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