Max IVs in every stat is possible, just not probable, so you can't judge legitmacy just by those IVs unless it has 252 EVs in every stat.
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Hacked parents
- Thread starter Vincents.Zydane
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Still - they were done in such a way so that Yanmega has HP 70 Ice, using as high IVs as possible to get it. =\
So either way, I did some research and apparently Pokesav dumps some unneeded data or something like that? Just what I heard.
Err not really.
Wouldn't this data be recreated when a new pokemon is born?
Wouldn't this data be recreated when a new pokemon is born?
Tell me how it is morally wrong? Its a freaking game...if perfect IVs are possible, then why not just speed up the process. I do use shoddy because i dont want to waste the money on an AR. (There is no way I'd breed...what a waste of your unsocial lives) And I just like flame wars.
Obviously, morals are a matter of opinion. He just happens to see it as morally wrong, and I agree. But that doesn't mean your morals have to be the same. You have a pretty poor argument as well. I could have millions of dollars why not just speed up the process and steal from a bank. Would you ever do that in real life? For most people, no. That's because that has consequences. Your only cheating in the game because there are no consequences, you can cheat as much as you want nobody is going to punish you. Just because its a game with no consequences doesn't mean you can justify cheating. That is why it is morally wrong to me. Your opinion will most likely differ. Arguments about hacking will never settle to one side or the other because it is largely opinion based, besides this is completely off-topic.
It's safe to assume the people who start these threads or ask these kind of questions are doing it, why else would they care? I make a mental note of people not to trade with, heh..
Not really I asked a question about the fast egg hatch/ insta-egg code before but I don't use it when I breed(I have an R4 but am clueless on how to dump my saves there, and I don't really care so yeah whatever).
Anyways back on point hex codes cannot be passed on(iirc) it's value always becomes 0 when it is bred. It can only turn different when you caught the pokemon in the wild(don't quote me on this and to anyone with more knowledge than me feel free to correct me :D).
There is also no way to tell that a pokemon had hacked parents as the game doesn't keep record on that on the pkm file(again feel free to correct me). It may keep record on the game but that doesn't really help :/.
@Anti: There is really no point in asking a question like that(because if someone does do it they wouldn't accept it anyways not saying you do Omega I trust you :D).
According to Part IV of the breeding guide, if you breed a perfect 31 IV in all stats Pokemon with another perfect 31 IV in all stats Pokemon, the probability that the offspring would have a perfect 31 IV in all stats is 1 in 59,916 eggs. So there wouldn't be any point in breeding them... the hacker would just use the hacked ones.
The only case where breeding hacked parents would make sense is if you don't know that the parents are hacked, like in the case of the original poster. In that case, I think that the advantages of the parents being hacked is, as illustrated by my example, extremely small. So I would actually accept such bred Pokemon as legal, even though they are bred from illegal Pokemon.
(After all, if a serial killer has a baby in real life, the baby is not put behind bars. Only the father/mother is.)
The only case where breeding hacked parents would make sense is if you don't know that the parents are hacked, like in the case of the original poster. In that case, I think that the advantages of the parents being hacked is, as illustrated by my example, extremely small. So I would actually accept such bred Pokemon as legal, even though they are bred from illegal Pokemon.
(After all, if a serial killer has a baby in real life, the baby is not put behind bars. Only the father/mother is.)
I work, and I have a lot of things that need to be done with my time. Breeding for nature and ability are tedious enough; I don't have time to breed for IVs as well.
As such, I just make Eggs with good (read;not perfect) IVs, hatch them, then EV train.
Cheating; yeah, but should I be left at a crippling disadvantage just because I can't spend the time breeding? Should Pokémon be just like every other aspect of life?
As such, I just make Eggs with good (read;not perfect) IVs, hatch them, then EV train.
Cheating; yeah, but should I be left at a crippling disadvantage just because I can't spend the time breeding? Should Pokémon be just like every other aspect of life?
Why don't you play on Shoddy? You can have perfect IV's without ever having to do anything. Plus, No-body will complain.
I don't understand why anyone is complaining now. Why do you all care what other people are doing if they aren't trying to scam you or something? These arguments never go anywhere because neither side will be reasonable with the other or even entertain the idea that they might be wrong, so this thread might as well just die.
I'll be the one to see both sides.
I can totally understand where people that are against hacking are coming from. They have put a lot of work into making pokemon that have really good IV's and when someone comes along and puts a half an hours work to make a team with perfect IV's (something which anyone breeding pokemon by traditional methods will never legitimately achieve) and gets an advantage over the non hacker, obviously makes the non hacker angry
I can also the hacker side. I've actually raised Decently IV'd Tyranitar and it was painstakingly boring and I don't think I'd ever have time to raise a full team like that (I could give a laundry list of time constraints but I wont) I also think it would take away the fun to have raise a team like that, but It also provides a great deal of accomplishment.
I don't believe that hacking it cheating, unless you are modifying your pokemon beyond that limits of the games (Wonderguard Spiritomb anyone) I do however believe that hacking your pokemon to perfect IV's is absolutely unfair to those who have legitimatley gotten their pokemon as close to perfect 31's as possible. I don't see why people should have a problem if someone were to hack a pokemon to a level of reasonable IV's but then we're left in the position of determining what are reasonable IV's.
And for those of you that say play Shoddy I say no. I've been playing pokemon since RBY and I've never played Netbattle of Shoddy cause they just don't feel the same as actually playing on the GB/DS.
If being able to legitimately hack pokemon (within reason) adds a lot more ppl to the game then I say let them come. This gives more people to battle with (hopefully none to trade with though) and eventually they might join the ranks of those who breed legit pokemon (I would if I have more time but I don't)
My question is what would you, who breed legit pokemon, consider average IV's for your competitive pokemon?
I can totally understand where people that are against hacking are coming from. They have put a lot of work into making pokemon that have really good IV's and when someone comes along and puts a half an hours work to make a team with perfect IV's (something which anyone breeding pokemon by traditional methods will never legitimately achieve) and gets an advantage over the non hacker, obviously makes the non hacker angry
I can also the hacker side. I've actually raised Decently IV'd Tyranitar and it was painstakingly boring and I don't think I'd ever have time to raise a full team like that (I could give a laundry list of time constraints but I wont) I also think it would take away the fun to have raise a team like that, but It also provides a great deal of accomplishment.
I don't believe that hacking it cheating, unless you are modifying your pokemon beyond that limits of the games (Wonderguard Spiritomb anyone) I do however believe that hacking your pokemon to perfect IV's is absolutely unfair to those who have legitimatley gotten their pokemon as close to perfect 31's as possible. I don't see why people should have a problem if someone were to hack a pokemon to a level of reasonable IV's but then we're left in the position of determining what are reasonable IV's.
And for those of you that say play Shoddy I say no. I've been playing pokemon since RBY and I've never played Netbattle of Shoddy cause they just don't feel the same as actually playing on the GB/DS.
If being able to legitimately hack pokemon (within reason) adds a lot more ppl to the game then I say let them come. This gives more people to battle with (hopefully none to trade with though) and eventually they might join the ranks of those who breed legit pokemon (I would if I have more time but I don't)
My question is what would you, who breed legit pokemon, consider average IV's for your competitive pokemon?
Does anyone know if this is 100% correct? Cause it conflicts with what other people like X-Act have said, so I'm wondering if anyone can clear this up.
If a man walked into a brothel and claimed afterwards he was just looking, would you believe him? Yeah. People who make these threads and ask about the "limits" of hacking are only asking because it concerns them personally because they do it, or are thinking about doing it. If someone was legitimate they wouldn't give a shit about what can and cannot be detected in hacks, as they themselves are not cheating. It's common sense.
Bottom line, if you don't want to get caught cheating, don't do it. And I'm surprised these garbage threads stay open, they ruin stark mountain with their presence on a daily basis.
Or maybe they are just doing what they say they are doing and asking what the limits of hacking are acceptable in trading... its not a conspiracy dude i think you should be a little more laid back
Raikou's certainly right about 1 thing (and the other things), these are definitely garbage threads. :P