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NOC C9++ Game Thread

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hi i'm not dodging eod. i'm reading and writing this while I'm reading. i'm starting reading from page 22 because i'll be out tmrw and don't want to extend for that long. since i'm writing this as I read the game so some of the info might not be updated/may be invalid after certain events.

re: twin: honestly twin looks pretty typical, although kinda annoying as always. i feel like anyone who's doubting twin being town rn (I actually haven't read the whole thing at this point so this may or may not be happening) is probably just dumb because the chances of him fakeccing mason and being uncced are so minimal that the entire drama that would cause is negligible. however can people not claim prs. this is way too early.

re: EoD1 lynches
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Earlio: asek, BBM, acidphoenix, Jalmont, Kirsche, Twin
BBM: Haruno, Fenrir, DurzaOffTopic
DurzaOffTopic: zorbees, Moody
Thetwinmasters: Champ1604
Haruno: Earlio

obviously the most notable vote here is Earlio on haruno. so.... I dug through earlio's posts to see at what point he starts mentioning haruno so i could consider whether or not haruno told earlio to bus him.

his first few posts: memes
post 3: I don't like twin
later: flip on twin (lol), and other 1-liner reads on asek and durza (but later he flips on durza) and an ambiguous read on fenbaka. still no haruno mention.
next post: flip on durza
next post: clarifies read on fenbaka
soon: lynches me
next: no opinion on acid and moody\
soon: continues to push champ and durza
next post: SUDDENLY MENTIONS HARUNO
goes back to durza, then claims, then haruno again

so bc I know I'm town i'm pretty sure at least one person earlio pushed at some point OR/AND one of the two people he had "no opinion on" is scum. so that's haruno, durza, fenbaka, acid, moody. i'm pretty sure out of this pool only one person is scum because I'm not sure if earlio is good enough to bus 2 people with help from any of these people except for maybeeee moody. so now we're back to reading the game after that tangent.

re: post 796. this post is the fakest piece of shit I've ever read. from haruno. yeah

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ok now I'm up to the haruno/durza cc bonanza. this obviously invalidates the entirety of my stuff above in the way that I meant for it to be used but I'm leaving it because it's good info in other aspects. *typically* I'd lynch the person in haruno's spot for not ccing durza immediately BUT haruno is pretty bad at noc so I'm gonna keep an open mind at this point in the game.

re: post 940. just a checkin to say first of all i'm flattered and second of all between the post where haruno cced durza this conflict has not developed at all, which is *kinda* interesting because in theory the rest of this day should be a 1v1 between them.

re: shubaka only posting content when asked. this is at least a decent scumtell for me typically because obviously town would want to think for themselves. However I feel like shubaka is almost conftown at this point because of the durza 1v1. So just post shubaka. please.

re: Durza not wanting to protect twin.


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ok so lolololol this is actually kinda funny but don't be an idiot durza please. Luckily I'm pulling out some meta right now and I know that durza actually can be an idiot sometimes (sorry durza) (you're cool other times)!!!!!!! so I am pretty he's just being an idiot here instead of actually being basically confscum which some other players make him out to be.

re: twin asking for power roles. i mentioned this earlier because I was tagged in it so I knew about it. don't claim yet please. this is dumb for reasons that I think have already been explained.

ok I'm caught up from page 22 now. I'd like more content from shubaka17 for reasons mentioned and also zorbees why did you lynch haruno specifically when it was a bad idea as twin pointed out. also more content from you.

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at this point my most likely scumteam is probably haruno moodycloud/acid. doesn't help that moody isn't really contributing near the end of this day specifically. neither moody or acid have really contributed anything of value yet but my read on moody over acid is more of a gut read than anything. i think zorbees is potentially scum also, his vote on haruno is not only perplexing but a bit opportunistic. He also didn't interact with earlio in anyway which would make sense with a bus between the other scum partner relationship.

here I'll rank em for you

scum

haruno
moodycloud
acid
zorbees

null

kirsche
bbm
asek

town

durza
shubaka
twin
me

i'm tired but I'll look into my null reads in the morning. I'll be on for a few more minutes if you have questions. otherwise gn
 
prefer haruno to durza and kirsche > zorbees as ppl I find notable for srs, dislike recent from zorbees / still have the same thoughts on kirsche even if I never got around to isoing

also spec is 0 effort thinking of srs is >0 effort so ya
 
pancake said:
hi i'm not dodging eod. i'm reading and writing this while I'm reading. i'm starting reading from page 22 because i'll be out tmrw and don't want to extend for that long. since i'm writing this as I read the game so some of the info might not be updated/may be invalid after certain events.

re: twin: honestly twin looks pretty typical, although kinda annoying as always. i feel like anyone who's doubting twin being town rn (I actually haven't read the whole thing at this point so this may or may not be happening) is probably just dumb because the chances of him fakeccing mason and being uncced are so minimal that the entire drama that would cause is negligible. however can people not claim prs. this is way too early.

re: EoD1 lynches
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Earlio: asek, BBM, acidphoenix, Jalmont, Kirsche, Twin
BBM: Haruno, Fenrir, DurzaOffTopic
DurzaOffTopic: zorbees, Moody
Thetwinmasters: Champ1604
Haruno: Earlio

obviously the most notable vote here is Earlio on haruno. so.... I dug through earlio's posts to see at what point he starts mentioning haruno so i could consider whether or not haruno told earlio to bus him.

his first few posts: memes
post 3: I don't like twin
later: flip on twin (lol), and other 1-liner reads on asek and durza (but later he flips on durza) and an ambiguous read on fenbaka. still no haruno mention.
next post: flip on durza
next post: clarifies read on fenbaka
soon: lynches me
next: no opinion on acid and moody\
soon: continues to push champ and durza
next post: SUDDENLY MENTIONS HARUNO
goes back to durza, then claims, then haruno again

so bc I know I'm town i'm pretty sure at least one person earlio pushed at some point OR/AND one of the two people he had "no opinion on" is scum. so that's haruno, durza, fenbaka, acid, moody. i'm pretty sure out of this pool only one person is scum because I'm not sure if earlio is good enough to bus 2 people with help from any of these people except for maybeeee moody. so now we're back to reading the game after that tangent.

re: post 796. this post is the fakest piece of shit I've ever read. from haruno. yeah

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ok now I'm up to the haruno/durza cc bonanza. this obviously invalidates the entirety of my stuff above in the way that I meant for it to be used but I'm leaving it because it's good info in other aspects. *typically* I'd lynch the person in haruno's spot for not ccing durza immediately BUT haruno is pretty bad at noc so I'm gonna keep an open mind at this point in the game.

re: post 940. just a checkin to say first of all i'm flattered and second of all between the post where haruno cced durza this conflict has not developed at all, which is *kinda* interesting because in theory the rest of this day should be a 1v1 between them.

re: shubaka only posting content when asked. this is at least a decent scumtell for me typically because obviously town would want to think for themselves. However I feel like shubaka is almost conftown at this point because of the durza 1v1. So just post shubaka. please.

re: Durza not wanting to protect twin.


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ok so lolololol this is actually kinda funny but don't be an idiot durza please. Luckily I'm pulling out some meta right now and I know that durza actually can be an idiot sometimes (sorry durza) (you're cool other times)!!!!!!! so I am pretty he's just being an idiot here instead of actually being basically confscum which some other players make him out to be.

re: twin asking for power roles. i mentioned this earlier because I was tagged in it so I knew about it. don't claim yet please. this is dumb for reasons that I think have already been explained.

ok I'm caught up from page 22 now. I'd like more content from shubaka17 for reasons mentioned and also zorbees why did you lynch haruno specifically when it was a bad idea as twin pointed out. also more content from you.

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at this point my most likely scumteam is probably haruno moodycloud/acid. doesn't help that moody isn't really contributing near the end of this day specifically. neither moody or acid have really contributed anything of value yet but my read on moody over acid is more of a gut read than anything. i think zorbees is potentially scum also, his vote on haruno is not only perplexing but a bit opportunistic. He also didn't interact with earlio in anyway which would make sense with a bus between the other scum partner relationship.

here I'll rank em for you

scum

haruno
moodycloud
acid
zorbees

null

kirsche
bbm
asek

town

durza
shubaka
twin
me

i'm tired but I'll look into my null reads in the morning. I'll be on for a few more minutes if you have questions. otherwise gn
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asek claimed 1 shot cop
 
was that before page 22 or did I just miss it
alright then I didn't really comment on asek though so there's not much to invalidate in my post besides the null read, he's probably town
 
pancake said:
hi i'm not dodging eod. i'm reading and writing this while I'm reading. i'm starting reading from page 22 because i'll be out tmrw and don't want to extend for that long. since i'm writing this as I read the game so some of the info might not be updated/may be invalid after certain events.

re: twin: honestly twin looks pretty typical, although kinda annoying as always. i feel like anyone who's doubting twin being town rn (I actually haven't read the whole thing at this point so this may or may not be happening) is probably just dumb because the chances of him fakeccing mason and being uncced are so minimal that the entire drama that would cause is negligible. however can people not claim prs. this is way too early.

re: EoD1 lynches
---
Earlio: asek, BBM, acidphoenix, Jalmont, Kirsche, Twin
BBM: Haruno, Fenrir, DurzaOffTopic
DurzaOffTopic: zorbees, Moody
Thetwinmasters: Champ1604
Haruno: Earlio

obviously the most notable vote here is Earlio on haruno. so.... I dug through earlio's posts to see at what point he starts mentioning haruno so i could consider whether or not haruno told earlio to bus him.

his first few posts: memes
post 3: I don't like twin
later: flip on twin (lol), and other 1-liner reads on asek and durza (but later he flips on durza) and an ambiguous read on fenbaka. still no haruno mention.
next post: flip on durza
next post: clarifies read on fenbaka
soon: lynches me
next: no opinion on acid and moody\
soon: continues to push champ and durza
next post: SUDDENLY MENTIONS HARUNO
goes back to durza, then claims, then haruno again

so bc I know I'm town i'm pretty sure at least one person earlio pushed at some point OR/AND one of the two people he had "no opinion on" is scum. so that's haruno, durza, fenbaka, acid, moody. i'm pretty sure out of this pool only one person is scum because I'm not sure if earlio is good enough to bus 2 people with help from any of these people except for maybeeee moody. so now we're back to reading the game after that tangent.

re: post 796. this post is the fakest piece of shit I've ever read. from haruno. yeah

---

ok now I'm up to the haruno/durza cc bonanza. this obviously invalidates the entirety of my stuff above in the way that I meant for it to be used but I'm leaving it because it's good info in other aspects. *typically* I'd lynch the person in haruno's spot for not ccing durza immediately BUT haruno is pretty bad at noc so I'm gonna keep an open mind at this point in the game.

re: post 940. just a checkin to say first of all i'm flattered and second of all between the post where haruno cced durza this conflict has not developed at all, which is *kinda* interesting because in theory the rest of this day should be a 1v1 between them.

re: shubaka only posting content when asked. this is at least a decent scumtell for me typically because obviously town would want to think for themselves. However I feel like shubaka is almost conftown at this point because of the durza 1v1. So just post shubaka. please.

re: Durza not wanting to protect twin.


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ok so lolololol this is actually kinda funny but don't be an idiot durza please. Luckily I'm pulling out some meta right now and I know that durza actually can be an idiot sometimes (sorry durza) (you're cool other times)!!!!!!! so I am pretty he's just being an idiot here instead of actually being basically confscum which some other players make him out to be.

re: twin asking for power roles. i mentioned this earlier because I was tagged in it so I knew about it. don't claim yet please. this is dumb for reasons that I think have already been explained.

ok I'm caught up from page 22 now. I'd like more content from shubaka17 for reasons mentioned and also zorbees why did you lynch haruno specifically when it was a bad idea as twin pointed out. also more content from you.

---

at this point my most likely scumteam is probably haruno moodycloud/acid. doesn't help that moody isn't really contributing near the end of this day specifically. neither moody or acid have really contributed anything of value yet but my read on moody over acid is more of a gut read than anything. i think zorbees is potentially scum also, his vote on haruno is not only perplexing but a bit opportunistic. He also didn't interact with earlio in anyway which would make sense with a bus between the other scum partner relationship.

here I'll rank em for you

scum

haruno
moodycloud
acid
zorbees

null

kirsche
bbm
asek

town

durza
shubaka
twin
me

i'm tired but I'll look into my null reads in the morning. I'll be on for a few more minutes if you have questions. otherwise gn
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I also never said the zorbees vote on haruno was bad
 
aight as I said I'm tired, I probably mixed that up in my head because i didn't right the last few things until I was done reading. honestly that was a lot of my scumread on him because of how bad that post was in my head. he's more like null now.
 
I don't think it really helps to talk about possible setups yeah. too many unknown variables right now. there could be a non-claiming PR OR maf shot the SK OR they both shot jalmont OR one/both of durza/haruno is lying, which is why I dont think any remaining PR should claim. it wouldn't prove anything

and yeah pancake's post reminded me that I'm not really sure about moody or zorbees, both of whom voted durza over earlio at deadline. there are some other bad zorbees/earlio interactions that I didn't mention earlier cuz I thought zorbees was the mason. specifically, zorbees's early vote on earlio looks like it could be scum distancing from their buddy early game.

so I would probably go acid > kirsche > zorbees > moody. I can't really remember interactions between any of them and haruno from day 1, and all I remember from d2 is kirsche's suspicious temporary switch from haruno to durza. but I think d2 interactions with haruno are mostly a wash because it was very obvious very soon that he was getting lynched
 
pancake I'm very confused about your shubaka logic. why is he likely conftown due to a durza 1v1??? when was in he a 1v1 with durza? if you mean that he's town because of a 1v1 between haruno and durza, that still doesn't make sense to me
 
Why are we going over like 100 hypotheticals when we can just lynch Haruno and get info from that?

Pancake can you explain your read on Shub a bit more, why is he conf town for some 1v1, I don't think he claimed.

Really out of motivation to read this thread rn too much activity when the Haruno lynch was decided 36 hours ago.
 
durza 1v1 = durza haruno 1v1

shubaka was one of the three people that earlio actively pushed

haruno and durza were the other two

assume 1 of haruno and durza are scum, I find it extremely unlikely that earlio being fairly new was actively pushing 2 of his partners

never said conftown i said almost conftown keyword almost

he's still one of my strongest townreads and I hope this clarifies my logic, please note that the durza 1v1 is with haruno, idk why this isn't obvious .-.
 
kirsche said:
Why are we going over like 100 hypotheticals when we can just lynch Haruno and get info from that?

Pancake can you explain your read on Shub a bit more, why is he conf town for some 1v1, I don't think he claimed.

Really out of motivation to read this thread rn too much activity when the Haruno lynch was decided 36 hours ago.
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did you read the claims
 
BigBangMeteor said:
and yeah pancake's post reminded me that I'm not really sure about moody or zorbees, both of whom voted durza over earlio at deadline. there are some other bad zorbees/earlio interactions that I didn't mention earlier cuz I thought zorbees was the mason. specifically, zorbees's early vote on earlio looks like it could be scum distancing from their buddy early game.
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the deadline vote was explained a few posts ago, I stated at some point towards the end of d1 that I was willing to switch to Earlio if the BBM wagon was a threat, since I had such a strong townread on you. I still had Durza as scummier at that point though.

In regards to the early pressure vote, I can see why you would see it that way. But when Earlio had a post in the last game that was basically "hey yeah I didnt get recruited" when he was recruited, and other general nooby plays, I figured I wanted to see if he would slip up if he were mafia in this game. I do agree that I could have worded my vote post differently to make it less obvious it was a pressure vote, but whatever, I'm a little rusty in terms of NOC so I made a mistake.
 
@shub good logic, I thought you meant durza vs Haruno but I was confused for a moment and thought you might mean Fenrir vs Earlio (which wasn't a 1v1 but hey, confusion is an awful status condition).

Might ISO BBM over N2 I feel like I've been forgetting about him. Pedit: Actually nvm just read Haruno's ISO and he would know BBM is not new if they were buddies.

Haruno really hasn't said anything that I find particularly incriminating, only people he's talked about other than Durza/Twin is a line on Zorbees and BBM (which I addressed above). Still think Acid is town and the Asek claim prob comes from town, from what pancake said Shub is likely town. That leaves Durza, Moody, Pancake and Zorbees. Haven't even seen Zorbees post today at all (lol he just did), though I admit to skimming a LOT. Gonna ISO these guys again, shouldn't take long. Durza can't be buddies with Haruno though surely. Do think last scum is among them though.

@Twin: I only saw you claim Mason and Asek claim 1 shot cop.
 
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