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I've been messing around with this new team, and I've actually found it to be very good. So, I wanted to share my team, and I'd also like to ask for some advice on it as well. I'm just a beginner at SuMo Monotype, and this is my first "origional" team, so there are probably some things that don't make sense, or are just a plain bad idea. Never the less, This is my Mono-Flying team!
Scarf Togekiss was my first Pokemon of choice, simply because Togekiss is one of my favorite Pokemon. As I knew that I wanted to build a bit of a bulkier team, I chose to run Choice Scarf over a more utility set. Air Slash is by far the most spammable STAB for Togekiss, as, when paired with Serene Grace, it has a massive 60% chance of flinching the opponent. Pair this with the Choice Scarf, and there isn't a whole lot that will be able to avoid it's effect. Dazzling Gleam is used for thhe Fairy STAB, mostly because Gamefreak chose to not bless Togekiss with Moonblast. Despite this move not being Moonblast, Dazzling Gleam still hits pretty hard. Aura Sphere is used to nail Steel Types on the swithch in, as Togekiss has very few options to hit these Pokemon. Also, Aura Sphere was chosen over Flamethrower because it is the only Fighting Type move on the team, and a few members of the team as a whole use Fire Type coverage. Finally, Trick is used to disrupt tanks, rendering their longevity rather useless.
Mantine
Mantine @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Defog
- Roost
- Haze
Mantine is a fantastic Special Wall, and acts as one half of the team's hazard control. Thanks to Water Absorb, Mantine can cover for one of Giscor's weaknesses and heal itself. It carries Scald, as Scald offers great utility, thanks to the burn chance. Defog is used to clear away hazards, specifically Stealth Rocks, which can place a lot of pressure on this team. Roost is used for reliable recovery, something that Mantine enjoys. When Leftovers are still on Mantine, its ability to heal itself becomes a large frustration to the opponent. Finally, Haze is used on anything bold enough to try and set up on Mantine.
Zapdos
Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 176 SpD / 80 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Roost
- Defog
- Heat Wave
Zapdos is a very useful addition to any Mono-Flying team in my opinion. It offers a nice balance of utility, defense, and offence, without sacrificing to much in any one area. Volt Switch is the Electric STAB of choice, thanks to this turning Zapdos into a useful pivot option. Roost is another reliable healing option, and, when paired with Leftovers, it makes Zapdos tougher to kill than normal. Defog used to remove Stealth Rocks, and this is used on Mantine and Zapdos to not force one member of the team into a bad position. Heat Wave is used to nail Steel Types for trying to wall Zapdos, and it also punishes Grass Types for trying to tank the Volt Switch. It also melts Ice Types, which is a big advantage.
Gliscor
Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 208 SpD / 56 Spe
Careful Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Taunt
- Earthquake
- Roost
Gliscor is a good defencive member, who also offers extreamly useful advantages, like an immunity to electric type moves. Stealth Rock is a great hazard, which can really apply pressure on my opponent. Taunt is also a great utility option, as it will prevent any tanks from healing or using a status move. EQ is the STAB of choice, not only for its raw power, but because it punishes Steel and Electric Types, which can be a major problem for Flying. Roost, and Poison Heal can also make Gliscor extremely hard to kill as well, like many other members of this team.
Dragonite
Dragonite @ Choice Band
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Outrage
- Extreme Speed
- Fire Punch
- Earthquake
Dragonite is the Physical Wallbreaker of this team, and he puts quite a few dents in opposing teams when he gets an opportunity. STAB Outrage from a CB DNite will put a hole in anything that isn't resistant or immune to it, and Fire Punch and Earthquake help cover for these Pokemon that could come in on the Outrage. Extreme Speed is used for it's priority, which is super nice, as it is the only priority on the team. It's worth noting that the Choice band can also be a bit of a curse, as DNite really likes to have freedom over his moves, but the lack of power is noticeable when you aren't running CB.
Celesteela
Celesteela @ Leftovers
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Leech Seed
- Heavy Slam
- Flamethrower
- Protect
Celesteela is the last member of the team, and Celesteela is very tanky. Leftovers, Leech Seed, and Protect offers massive amounts of recovery per turn, making this already hard to kill Pokemon even tougher. Although it isn't made for offence, Heavy Slam is used fir STAB damage, and Flamethrower is used for general coverage. Also, it is worth noting that Beast Boost will increase Celesteela's SpD after every kill it gets.
I've been messing around with this new team, and I've actually found it to be very good. So, I wanted to share my team, and I'd also like to ask for some advice on it as well. I'm just a beginner at SuMo Monotype, and this is my first "origional" team, so there are probably some things that don't make sense, or are just a plain bad idea. Never the less, This is my Mono-Flying team!
Scarf Togekiss was my first Pokemon of choice, simply because Togekiss is one of my favorite Pokemon. As I knew that I wanted to build a bit of a bulkier team, I chose to run Choice Scarf over a more utility set. Air Slash is by far the most spammable STAB for Togekiss, as, when paired with Serene Grace, it has a massive 60% chance of flinching the opponent. Pair this with the Choice Scarf, and there isn't a whole lot that will be able to avoid it's effect. Dazzling Gleam is used for thhe Fairy STAB, mostly because Gamefreak chose to not bless Togekiss with Moonblast. Despite this move not being Moonblast, Dazzling Gleam still hits pretty hard. Aura Sphere is used to nail Steel Types on the swithch in, as Togekiss has very few options to hit these Pokemon. Also, Aura Sphere was chosen over Flamethrower because it is the only Fighting Type move on the team, and a few members of the team as a whole use Fire Type coverage. Finally, Trick is used to disrupt tanks, rendering their longevity rather useless.
Mantine
Mantine @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Defog
- Roost
- Haze
Mantine is a fantastic Special Wall, and acts as one half of the team's hazard control. Thanks to Water Absorb, Mantine can cover for one of Giscor's weaknesses and heal itself. It carries Scald, as Scald offers great utility, thanks to the burn chance. Defog is used to clear away hazards, specifically Stealth Rocks, which can place a lot of pressure on this team. Roost is used for reliable recovery, something that Mantine enjoys. When Leftovers are still on Mantine, its ability to heal itself becomes a large frustration to the opponent. Finally, Haze is used on anything bold enough to try and set up on Mantine.
Zapdos
Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 176 SpD / 80 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Roost
- Defog
- Heat Wave
Zapdos is a very useful addition to any Mono-Flying team in my opinion. It offers a nice balance of utility, defense, and offence, without sacrificing to much in any one area. Volt Switch is the Electric STAB of choice, thanks to this turning Zapdos into a useful pivot option. Roost is another reliable healing option, and, when paired with Leftovers, it makes Zapdos tougher to kill than normal. Defog used to remove Stealth Rocks, and this is used on Mantine and Zapdos to not force one member of the team into a bad position. Heat Wave is used to nail Steel Types for trying to wall Zapdos, and it also punishes Grass Types for trying to tank the Volt Switch. It also melts Ice Types, which is a big advantage.
Gliscor
Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 208 SpD / 56 Spe
Careful Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Taunt
- Earthquake
- Roost
Gliscor is a good defencive member, who also offers extreamly useful advantages, like an immunity to electric type moves. Stealth Rock is a great hazard, which can really apply pressure on my opponent. Taunt is also a great utility option, as it will prevent any tanks from healing or using a status move. EQ is the STAB of choice, not only for its raw power, but because it punishes Steel and Electric Types, which can be a major problem for Flying. Roost, and Poison Heal can also make Gliscor extremely hard to kill as well, like many other members of this team.
Dragonite
Dragonite @ Choice Band
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Outrage
- Extreme Speed
- Fire Punch
- Earthquake
Dragonite is the Physical Wallbreaker of this team, and he puts quite a few dents in opposing teams when he gets an opportunity. STAB Outrage from a CB DNite will put a hole in anything that isn't resistant or immune to it, and Fire Punch and Earthquake help cover for these Pokemon that could come in on the Outrage. Extreme Speed is used for it's priority, which is super nice, as it is the only priority on the team. It's worth noting that the Choice band can also be a bit of a curse, as DNite really likes to have freedom over his moves, but the lack of power is noticeable when you aren't running CB.
Celesteela
Celesteela @ Leftovers
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Leech Seed
- Heavy Slam
- Flamethrower
- Protect
Celesteela is the last member of the team, and Celesteela is very tanky. Leftovers, Leech Seed, and Protect offers massive amounts of recovery per turn, making this already hard to kill Pokemon even tougher. Although it isn't made for offence, Heavy Slam is used fir STAB damage, and Flamethrower is used for general coverage. Also, it is worth noting that Beast Boost will increase Celesteela's SpD after every kill it gets.
Hey Elodin Stratagem, overall cool team. Nice to see some people using underrated threats like Scarfed Togekiss. Anyway I have a few suggestions to improve your team.
While the 4 moves you have chosen for Mantine perfectly compliment the team the speed EVs can use a little bit of adjusting. Belly Drum Azumarill is a huge threat to Mono Flying and since most run max speed which hits 199 speed, I adjusted Mantine's EVs to 200 speed which allows it tonsafely haze against Azumarill everytime. jolly Azumarill us junky cteam dw abt that
Since Mantine is a defogger on the team I would suggest using SubToxic Zapdos as it helps wear down all non-steel and poison type pokemon for Togekiss to be able to clean easier in the late game. The speed evs given to Zapdos let it outpace 252+ speed Vincune always ensuring that you can get a Toxic off on the infamous threat. SubToxic also really appeciates Roost as it is easily able to timer off pokemon and wear off any damage done by simply clicking roost. Discharge+Toxic just is so frustrating as it can cripple so many teams with paralysis or poisoning. The HP allows Zapdos to switch into Stealth Rocks with more ease.
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The reason I chose Landorus-Therian over Gliscor is because not only on top of Stealth Rocks, Landorus-Therian provides U-turn as a slow pivot into wallbreakers like Charizard Y, and can cripple opposing pokemon with Knock Off by removing their held item. This makes pokemon such as Victini much easier to beat. Also since Zapdos stallbreaks decently Gliscor's Taunt while nice isnt super needed making Landorus-therian the better choice. The speed EVs allow it to outspeed pokemon such as 252+ Choice Specs Magnezone,Choice Band Victini at -1, and base 100s with no investment while maximizing its physocal bulk. The 252 hp/24 spd allow it to live a Life Orb Draco Meteor from Latios.
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Charizard was a replacement over Celesteela because Landorus, Mantine and Zapdos already form a very nice defensive core. Charizard Y adds the necessary special wallbreaker your team is missing. So few pokemon can switch into Charizard Y due to it setting Sun and being able to spam Fire Blast with little to no drawback. This pokemon also breaks down some of the same checks that Togekiss has allowing Togekiss to clean much easier lategame.
Landorus-Therian (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 24 SpD / 92 Spe
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Stealth Rock
- Knock Off
Dragonite @ Choice Band
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Outrage
- Extreme Speed
- Fire Punch
- Earthquake
Charizard-Mega-Y @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Fire Blast
- Solar Beam
- Focus Blast
- Roost
Watch out though Mega Diancie is a huge threat to the team, but theres only so much you can fit on one flying team :(. Your best bet is chipping it down then using Extreme Speed Dragonite or Scarf Togekiss to put it down. Landorus can also live any one hit from Mega Diancie and return with Earthquake either ohkoing it or heavily crippling it if its behind screens or in grassy terrain. Alternatively if Mega Diancie seems to be to much of a pain you can switch Landorus-Therian back for Gliscor or Skarmory.
Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 248 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Stealth Rock
- Roost
- Whirlwind
This EV allows Skarmory to switchin into Diamond Storm and then npt get ohkoed by Diamond Storm the next turn. Iron Head ohkoes Mega Diancie which is so nice. However, the team variation with Skarmory over Lando or Gliscor just get run over by the Fire type pokemon so playMantine and Dragonite more carefully in that mu. 0 Atk Diancie-Mega Diamond Storm vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Skarmory: 121-144 (36.3 - 43.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock 240 SpA Diancie-Mega Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Skarmory: 138-164 (41.4 - 49.2%) -- 81.6% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock 0 Atk Skarmory Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Diancie-Mega: 268-316 (111.2 - 131.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 8 Def / 248 SpD
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Stealth Rock
- Roost
- Whirlwind
Thanks for the rate and ideas, trust me, they are gladly accepted. I'll be sure to give these changes a try, and see where the team takes me from there. Thanks again!
