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NOC Bard's College Mafia - Day Three
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I never noticed such and interaction of that sort between them. In case I missed something, I just looked at all their posts, and saw nothing of the sort.
I mean, did Haruno suddenly git gud while I was busy doing other things? Haruno's a meme unto himself and Xan read newb for taking him seriously.
OK I'm here, going to write out my thoughts on all players before heading to bed.
Really wanted to work on this earlier today but was hanging out with friends.
Really wanted to work on this earlier today but was hanging out with friends.
shubaka17: No posts. Probably just going to get replaced or modkilled.
Former Hope: Pretty strong townread. I believe that he believes his scumread on toni based off of toni's responding 7 minutes later. Like, I don't know how much I actually believe it myself and I'm not keen to use OOG arguments like that to clear/condemn a player, but the amount of thinking Former would have to go through in order to fake that is scum is pretty incredible.
Meowmixx: Really concise poster, can't really get much out of them. Their posts do seem to be game-related, which I like. Ehh I actually like his second string of posts enough for me to upgrade that into a light townread. Seems to be engaging and offering their thoughts and working to understand Former over mudslinging them. Their questioning seems fine and is sort of similar to what I'm doing.
bluedoom: People are saying that bluedoom is townie, I.. am somewhat inclined to agree with them but he has the highest chance of being a potential deep wolf if I have to guess. Focuses on Champ; I like how he's still actively trying to interrogate Champ even though he's already scumreading him in 147. 148 is easily fakeable for scum, yeah, but I still like it. Overall on reread seems pretty good though I don't understand why he's dropping his Champ pressure in favor of xnadroj. He can be town, though read is subject to revision depending on how strong wolves play around here.
MoodyCloud: Really no idea on him. He posted some short one liners, didn't respond to me, didn't vote, and dipped out. Would actually be fine with pressure on him.
mxmts: Still kind of scumreading this slot but he might just be a newbie who is super confused with how mafia works. Still lurking and not providing a lot of content; lynching him would be a coinflip really wrt his actual alignment since I've mislynched my fair share of bad townies before.
Granny Pie: Devoid of content. Eh actually I wouldn't mind seeing this slot dead, their last couple of posts seems to be mindless bandwagonning and sheeping of the latest case around the block.
ItzViper482: ???? modkill/replace plz
Jalmont: Gun to head, probably just poorly playing town? The "my role sucks" and "I can't even remember the last time I was mislynched" feel like tonal townie markers to me. Easy to fake, sure, but they've worked for me in the past, hence the gun to head remark.
Texas: Am a fan of his later posts. Kind of like posts like 207 and I've liked his responses to my questions. The unvote/voting of Haruno and then Jalmont feels like townie deliberation to me. 171 I can probably buy as a genuine thought from Texas. Kind of same boat as bluedoom in that if there are well-playing scum in my townreads he's probably one to look at, but I like his posts and activity thus far.
Tonithetourguide: No idea on this one.
Champ: Would need to give another look-over of her posts when I'm more awake but my initial thought is to not lynch her Day 1, but re-examine her play on future Days because she's in a weird spot. I'm not really townreading anything she's /doing/, per se (144 I can sort of see coming from town if I squint) but I'm mostly townreading her based off of thread flow. I rarely see scum just allow 4 votes to pile up on a buddy, especially in a game this large. Feels more like they're engineering a mislynch. So yeah, town for now, but still gonna monitor this slot in future Days.
Hitmonleet: If Hitmonleet is scum and Champ is town, then Hitmonleet probably doesn't point out the 4 votes on Champ thing. Do they do that if they're scum/scum? Maybe? I don't really understand where his scumreading of me comes from either? Not really getting much from his posts; would love more content from him.
XnadrojX: IIoA stuff early game. Mostly he's just.. providing his opinions but not really taking the time to question others? Actually he questions others later in the Day. Feels like his 197 is the key to figuring out his alignment for now, since it's a lot of game relevant thoughts and a question, which is pretty good for this playerbase in my book, but I am not really getting reliable towntells or scumtells off of him. Like, if he's scum, he's playing a pretty safe game right now. Going to need to question him in order to get a better grip on his alignment.
Haruno: Lurker.
Knights: Can be town in my book? 32 feels like a genuine thought (wrt the tinfoiling) and I've liked his responses when he's engaged with me. The post I actually really liked is that he snapped at me for dismissing his scumhunting efforts as irrelevant; feels like the type of thing that scum!KoC doesn't get mad about, because he's obviously putting on a show, but town!KoC is annoyed about. So unless I'm misreading this he's good in my book.
Earlio: Can't really get a grip of his later posts; going to take a look again when I'm more awake and not finishing up this half an hour long post.
BloodyRain: Fine dismissing him as a weak townread who has a slightly difficult time getting into the game. Might end up taking a look at his posts later.
Aura Guardian: Liked him cranking out ISOs. Can soooort of agree with bluedoom though about the the unvote then revote? It's just.. kind of strange to do in general, but it does show that AG is trying to deliberate on things. Just kind of unsure at the moment if it's real or not. I'm really tired right now so all of these last couple of reads are getting ruined; I'll try to re-examine them later.
Prophylaxis: best town
Former Hope: Pretty strong townread. I believe that he believes his scumread on toni based off of toni's responding 7 minutes later. Like, I don't know how much I actually believe it myself and I'm not keen to use OOG arguments like that to clear/condemn a player, but the amount of thinking Former would have to go through in order to fake that is scum is pretty incredible.
Meowmixx: Really concise poster, can't really get much out of them. Their posts do seem to be game-related, which I like. Ehh I actually like his second string of posts enough for me to upgrade that into a light townread. Seems to be engaging and offering their thoughts and working to understand Former over mudslinging them. Their questioning seems fine and is sort of similar to what I'm doing.
bluedoom: People are saying that bluedoom is townie, I.. am somewhat inclined to agree with them but he has the highest chance of being a potential deep wolf if I have to guess. Focuses on Champ; I like how he's still actively trying to interrogate Champ even though he's already scumreading him in 147. 148 is easily fakeable for scum, yeah, but I still like it. Overall on reread seems pretty good though I don't understand why he's dropping his Champ pressure in favor of xnadroj. He can be town, though read is subject to revision depending on how strong wolves play around here.
MoodyCloud: Really no idea on him. He posted some short one liners, didn't respond to me, didn't vote, and dipped out. Would actually be fine with pressure on him.
mxmts: Still kind of scumreading this slot but he might just be a newbie who is super confused with how mafia works. Still lurking and not providing a lot of content; lynching him would be a coinflip really wrt his actual alignment since I've mislynched my fair share of bad townies before.
Granny Pie: Devoid of content. Eh actually I wouldn't mind seeing this slot dead, their last couple of posts seems to be mindless bandwagonning and sheeping of the latest case around the block.
ItzViper482: ???? modkill/replace plz
Jalmont: Gun to head, probably just poorly playing town? The "my role sucks" and "I can't even remember the last time I was mislynched" feel like tonal townie markers to me. Easy to fake, sure, but they've worked for me in the past, hence the gun to head remark.
Texas: Am a fan of his later posts. Kind of like posts like 207 and I've liked his responses to my questions. The unvote/voting of Haruno and then Jalmont feels like townie deliberation to me. 171 I can probably buy as a genuine thought from Texas. Kind of same boat as bluedoom in that if there are well-playing scum in my townreads he's probably one to look at, but I like his posts and activity thus far.
Tonithetourguide: No idea on this one.
Champ: Would need to give another look-over of her posts when I'm more awake but my initial thought is to not lynch her Day 1, but re-examine her play on future Days because she's in a weird spot. I'm not really townreading anything she's /doing/, per se (144 I can sort of see coming from town if I squint) but I'm mostly townreading her based off of thread flow. I rarely see scum just allow 4 votes to pile up on a buddy, especially in a game this large. Feels more like they're engineering a mislynch. So yeah, town for now, but still gonna monitor this slot in future Days.
Hitmonleet: If Hitmonleet is scum and Champ is town, then Hitmonleet probably doesn't point out the 4 votes on Champ thing. Do they do that if they're scum/scum? Maybe? I don't really understand where his scumreading of me comes from either? Not really getting much from his posts; would love more content from him.
XnadrojX: IIoA stuff early game. Mostly he's just.. providing his opinions but not really taking the time to question others? Actually he questions others later in the Day. Feels like his 197 is the key to figuring out his alignment for now, since it's a lot of game relevant thoughts and a question, which is pretty good for this playerbase in my book, but I am not really getting reliable towntells or scumtells off of him. Like, if he's scum, he's playing a pretty safe game right now. Going to need to question him in order to get a better grip on his alignment.
Haruno: Lurker.
Knights: Can be town in my book? 32 feels like a genuine thought (wrt the tinfoiling) and I've liked his responses when he's engaged with me. The post I actually really liked is that he snapped at me for dismissing his scumhunting efforts as irrelevant; feels like the type of thing that scum!KoC doesn't get mad about, because he's obviously putting on a show, but town!KoC is annoyed about. So unless I'm misreading this he's good in my book.
Earlio: Can't really get a grip of his later posts; going to take a look again when I'm more awake and not finishing up this half an hour long post.
BloodyRain: Fine dismissing him as a weak townread who has a slightly difficult time getting into the game. Might end up taking a look at his posts later.
Aura Guardian: Liked him cranking out ISOs. Can soooort of agree with bluedoom though about the the unvote then revote? It's just.. kind of strange to do in general, but it does show that AG is trying to deliberate on things. Just kind of unsure at the moment if it's real or not. I'm really tired right now so all of these last couple of reads are getting ruined; I'll try to re-examine them later.
Prophylaxis: best town
So I think it goes like this:
TOWN: Prophylaxis
LEANING TOWN: Former Hope, Meowmixx, bluedoom, Jalmont, Texas, Champ, Knights, bloody?
NULL: shubaka, Toni, Hitmonleet, Xnadroj, Haruno, AG, Earlio, ItzViper
LEANING SCUM: mxmts, Granny Pie, MoodyCloud
Unvote; vote: Granny Pie
Would recommend people just take a gander at their posts, literally just a bunch of bandwagoning.
TOWN: Prophylaxis
LEANING TOWN: Former Hope, Meowmixx, bluedoom, Jalmont, Texas, Champ, Knights, bloody?
NULL: shubaka, Toni, Hitmonleet, Xnadroj, Haruno, AG, Earlio, ItzViper
LEANING SCUM: mxmts, Granny Pie, MoodyCloud
Unvote; vote: Granny Pie
Would recommend people just take a gander at their posts, literally just a bunch of bandwagoning.
I'll be around for like 15 more minutes if anyone wants to talk about reads/gamestate etc before I hit the sack.
If mxmts flips town then what have we accomplished for the Day?
There's a reason why I said that a lynch on him is a coin flip - it's because he has zero content and I have no idea if he's just newb town or newb scum. Plus, if he's town, then it's impossible to figure out who are the scum on the wagon, because a lynch on mxmts is so easily justifiable. Town and scum would say "he's lurking/made bad posts" and I wouldn't be able to tell which is which.
Would rather make people take stances IMO. Day 1 is the most critical day for interactions to happen.
There's a reason why I said that a lynch on him is a coin flip - it's because he has zero content and I have no idea if he's just newb town or newb scum. Plus, if he's town, then it's impossible to figure out who are the scum on the wagon, because a lynch on mxmts is so easily justifiable. Town and scum would say "he's lurking/made bad posts" and I wouldn't be able to tell which is which.
Would rather make people take stances IMO. Day 1 is the most critical day for interactions to happen.
gonna go zzzzzz
will be more active and stuff tomorrow
will be more active and stuff tomorrow
Mostly the bandwagoning + lack of town mindset. They're just posting to post and not posting to try and figure things out.
I'm not really opposed to a mxmts lynch, but my reasoning still stands?
If we lynch mxmts and they flip scum, great. If they flip town, then it's going to be really annoying to figure out who is actually scum or town because it's so darn easy to justify lynching mxmts.
Whatever, just keep talking about the game.
If we lynch mxmts and they flip scum, great. If they flip town, then it's going to be really annoying to figure out who is actually scum or town because it's so darn easy to justify lynching mxmts.
Whatever, just keep talking about the game.
btw let's not just give Texas a pass for sounding towny which i believe many people are doing / have done
this post in particular is quite alarming to me especially the bolded
first off "push[ing] hard as fuck on inactives" is classic mafia play because whats easier than having to read through posts its going after afk people
second off texas' content is surprisingly bare. if u look at his iso youll see that his posts are severely inflated by a lot of fluff or info posts that legit anyone could make. his post recent contribution is bringing up a scum tell that made no sense and distracted from the current conversation
just saying friends be aware
also i guess i have to town read bluedoom rn
this post in particular is quite alarming to me especially the bolded
first off "push[ing] hard as fuck on inactives" is classic mafia play because whats easier than having to read through posts its going after afk people
second off texas' content is surprisingly bare. if u look at his iso youll see that his posts are severely inflated by a lot of fluff or info posts that legit anyone could make. his post recent contribution is bringing up a scum tell that made no sense and distracted from the current conversation
just saying friends be aware
also i guess i have to town read bluedoom rn
so can you explain why this isn't true for granny pie who has made less posts than mxmts
why dont u give us some reads on other people in the game my dude
You're not wrong
Do you think scum!texas pushes that ideology as one of the first posts of the game?
Smogon towns have been hamstrung the last several games by inactives muddying the waters and scum getting away with being fairly inactive while we mislynch on d1 and d2 almost without fail because someone being active has something misconstrued as scummy and i intend to avoid that if at all possible when i'm involved going forward
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