NOC Laser Tag NOC - GAME OVER | Mafia Win

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Blazade said:
We have A Day Lynch. Assuming people don't lie about where they shoot mafia only need to use one shot to protect themselves each. Assuming they do scumhunting using this method becomes difficult.

Also because of the public nature of the shots people who are getting shot are gonna want to shoot so a larget number of the players are covered earlier, with a full permutation of them being the worst case. In that scenario mafia can protect themselves and then 6 townies die and they win instantly. Even in scenarios with close to full shots it's anyone's guess who was protected and who survived as a result of mafia changing shot to protect themselves.

Again assuming people lie there's no need to claim shots publically in the first place, it's far safer to claim shots after they're taken.

Don't talk to me about simple mathematics lol.
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Mafia are also bound to claiming their shots; if they use their shot to “protect” themselves, we will know, because the mafia member’s target will also not die, so they will be claiming scum. It’s like a scenario where a scum fake claims cop guilty on a cop that guiltiest a scum partner - sub optimal play for scum because it’s a 2 for 1

AND somehow you think that publically claiming shots somehow makes town auto die, when the reason that it is so is because the town is actually shit and can’t aim properly , rather than a result of my plan, in which case it wouldn’t make a difference whether they claim their shots or not because they’re trash who are destined to shoot town and lose the game anyway.

I’m not sure why it’s in your best interests to keep town being in an UNINFORMED MAJORITY, as if we don’t have enough information already, and give town even less information to work with, lol.
 
Also, scum have a limited number of shots they can take to protect themselves, they can only protect n / 2 of themselves maximum, and if somehow extra scummy people DONT die it would be pretty frickin obvious, and then they can be lynched or vigged subsequently if they are found guilty, any time we feel like it.

The scum use their “vig” shots like a night kill, if they are constantly put on the defensive they can’t even kill at all. town will STILL have the advantage.

I am really trying to figure out if your strong resistance is a result of ignorance or scum motivated to prevent your game being broken
 
The fact that I posted my opinion before you should tell you that I truly believe it.

And yeah town is shit and can't aim properly, and when they broadcast en masse mafia don't need to waste shots on the mis shots. They can save them for their own future kills or use them to protect each other, instead of wondering if their shot will accidentally be on another target or cleaning people with their own resources.
 
Blazade said:
The fact that I posted my opinion before you should tell you that I truly believe it.

And yeah town is shit and can't aim properly, and when they broadcast en masse mafia don't need to waste shots on the mis shots. They can save them for their own future kills or use them to protect each other, instead of wondering if their shot will accidentally be on another target or cleaning people with their own resources.
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If that’s the case then everyone might as well just idle and we’ll play this like a vanilla game. But if so, then we should STILL broadcast our intentions.

I mean, just think about it, if town mis fires, do you think they’ll own up? It’s embarrassing. Honesty is usually not everyone’s Best policy.
We can’t even tell how many shots scum have in that case.


Scum have limited shots, it’s their only way to take down pro town people. They won’t use it randomly. I find it difficult to think that there will be a conflict of interests, because scum would shooot towny people and town will (try to shoot) scummy people. Using it to “protect” themselves is an opportunity cost and a risk (if nobody shoots their partner, RIP partner).

Scum won’t be wasting shots on mis shots simply because they’ll aim for pro town. We have no power roles here, so no player has any more inflated importance than the other
 
And if a town is going to make a retarded vig at least we’ll be here to stop him or persuade him against doing so, if he does broadcast it, assuming a perfect town follows the plan perfectly.

I know that this won’t work in practice, because of n00bs who won’t cooperate, but in theory I am still not convinced that this is not the best solution.
 
Unvote whoever I voted; Vote Earlio

weird-ass reaction to Hawkie's pressure.

Also can we all agree to MS's plan so he doesn't need to spam up 3 pages explaining the benefits of the plan since that's what the previous 3 pages are and it's a pain for people who don't follow this thread 24/7 to read.

tentatively shooting MoodyCloud.
 
XnadrojX said:
Unvote whoever I voted; Vote Earlio

weird-ass reaction to Hawkie's pressure.

Also can we all agree to MS's plan so he doesn't need to spam up 3 pages explaining the benefits of the plan since that's what the previous 3 pages are and it's a pain for people who don't follow this thread 24/7 to read.

tentatively shooting MoodyCloud.
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Scratch that I'm shooting apricity
 
XnadrojX said:
Unvote whoever I voted; Vote Earlio

weird-ass reaction to Hawkie's pressure.

Also can we all agree to MS's plan so he doesn't need to spam up 3 pages explaining the benefits of the plan since that's what the previous 3 pages are and it's a pain for people who don't follow this thread 24/7 to read.

tentatively shooting MoodyCloud.
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Jordan is town for now
 
I may have to mod this from mobile for a while, at least until I can buy a replacement monitor. I'm gonna get on that votal once I finish announcing a few suspended activities unrelated to this game.
 
Votal

Walrein - 2 (Asek, Metal Sonic)
Earlio - 3 (Da Letter El, Hawkie, XnadrojX)
Asek - 2 (Blazade, Granny Pie)
Da Letter El - 1 (Former Hope)
Thetwinmasters - 2 (Haruno, MoodyCloud)
XnadrojX - 2 (Walrein, apricity)
Haruno - 2 (Jalmont, Thetwinmasters)

I'm gonna go update the drivers on my old laptop and see if that's an option.
 
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