NOC Animal Mafia ~Game Over~

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Okay this is ridiculous

unlynch, lynch jalmont

I'm honestly now less sure of your alignment, but I'm damn sure not going to let you get away with a response like that.
 
i made a mistake. i don't play with redirects a lot because most of the time i'm on ms and those roles only show up in role madness games. fsr i was thinking of reverse martyr this entire time. So yes now FH's night action makes sense.
 
Going through day 3 and noting stuff I see


I actually do like this post by Texas on the surface. But then taking a 2nd look at it, this reads as weird to me. From what I gather, he was scum reading the blazade slot not just trying to push it for activity. So this sudden switch here is *super* weird to me. Like, if you scum read the slot for what reason would you switch your vote off of it just because of a sub if you actually had a genuine scum read on that slot.


Wanting to know why they were targeted isn't the most unusual thing. Though the "OMGUS" that follows is


I don't know what to think of this one honestly. Because frankly that strategy of redirecting someone you are town reading makes no sense. Why would you possibly mess up their action when instead you could mess up the strategy of a possible scum mate by redirecting someone who might be scum to someone else who might be scum, meaning you either mess up a persuade, hook or whatever else the mafia might have (though prized above all, redirecting a kill onto another scum would have been amazing



Some good questions, but feels rather shallow to me. Then backs the idiotic idea of having the persuader claim just so if they are town they can be mislynch bait.


This is a pretty bad post for moody. At least in XX's second quoted post he makes a world of sense, hawkie is the kind of player who very easily earns a town read no matter what his alignment (read: last NOC), well at least the middle bit makes sense. The 1st and last line are mildly confusing out of context but not knowing hte context, they feel more like someone trying to play and not knowing how vs scum.

he says, having been one of the ones lynching after idlers....

more weird af logic but that's not really alig

oh this is where you asked that. ngl I straight up didn't actually read this full post when it was new it seemed so fluff.


Honestly, this post is very nearly a scum slip. The way I'm honestly reading this is that Moody knows the persuader is town and wants them to claim so they can either get a handle on them or they can then cause a mislynch onto them since if a persuader does claim, town has no way of knowing their alignment .... unless you were scum and knew scum didn't have a persuader.

Okay, this is actually a straight up awful post in context. He's responding saying

this post is some how making me = scum crystal clear however I can't even fathom how that would be the case since it's just a post pointing out the massive dissonance in texas's post. Seems like OMGUS at best and just a scum post at worst.



Between these weird votes, at least apricity has prior (even if weak) reasons to do it. KOC here has the strange vote considering their latest read was 'weak scumread' and so without explaining reasoning for


Weird hop on/hop off, but I guess I can see the town in this. I feel like scum would want to commit to the lynch more than hop off early. Plus, the danger there is low I guess. So I see this post as being somewhat towny since it doesn't fir the

iirc 0. Haruno popping his head into here is probably ever so slighly towny since I guess, well honestly that's probably just null. I was going to say it was towny since scum can probably get an idea of what's happening from a scum chat but this level of effort can be so easily faked that it's not really indicative either way.

See, this post is just the worst. He sets it up as being apart of the 'blazade/jordan' theory but then blatantly states here that he doesnt' care a

Similarly, this post comes off as wanting to be town. But in reality, let's face it. Someone who subbed in providing a reads list doesn't help town at all. As town and hell, as someone who has been confirmed to be a redirector I have what I've posted here and if I do end up getting mislynched, there 0 reason why town should follow my uninformed reads.

Okay, reread of the day complete so reads anyways

Aubisio - Did they post today? I honestly can't recall, seems more like idling aubisio which isn't really a suprise. - Null
Thetwinmasters - Same as above, can't recall a single post from them - also null
Haruno - Poked his head in at least. But I mean, I also know he's busy in rl so I guess he has an excuse but still I'm with most people in that this slot needs to be active for better reads - ...yet another null
Earlio - Admits to sheeping and sheeps for weird reasons. Lean scum, and like I said before I think if texas is scum Earlio is a good partner for them.
DurzaOffTopic - Will be subbed
Jalmont - I townread honestly. Besides just his position being what I think is anti scum right now, the drama early on feels like it's not something scum would want to do since it attracts a lot of attention. but you really really really need to explain the persuader thing (also disclaimer, I read the drama parts when I wasn't in the game so take that as you will)
Whydon - Townread, if you don't town read this slot then you need to read more carefully.
3P1K - slight town read for the train hopping. Otherwise seems to be inclined to getting info rather than join the bandwagon craze.
Blazade - oh wait that's my slot. I guess I'm not actually playing? Well that makes this awkward
Mithril - Also can't recall seeing anything from them. - null
XnadrojX - Okay, this is a weird slot. People have been saying they think them scum, but frankly, having read today I can't remmeber any of their posts...much less things that ping me. I think for this slot, I'd want to see more activity from them before making an actual read, but going off the posts they've had quoted from other people, nothing honestly struck me as extrodinarily scummy or even anything that would say scum vs newby town. I'd want to see more of them, but frankly, this slot is fairly null (ftr, like I said before, the reason I redirected him wasn't so much because of my own read, but because I was lazy and did a quick scan through of the past few pages to gander at a scum I could redirect in case I died).
Asek - Also needs to post more... wow people weren't kidding this game is filled with idlers, and asek usually isn't one of them so I guess light scumread.
MoodyCloud - Scumread. Their behavior throughout today reads hard to me like a mafia who is trying to pretend to be active, but on the whole has really bad arguments and reasoning and more so, supports things with little substanative reason to do so.
Hawkie - Well just got subbed so null for now.
KnightsofCydonia - Slight scum read, like I said before. Their lynch on me felt like it was very scum driven but I don't have much beyond that on this slot.
apricity - I think I actually genuinely scum read this slot more than just gut scum read. They are similar to moody in that they've had weird af posts. HOWEVER honestly, their weirdness feels too close to moody for them to be scum together and I'm inclined to think that KOC and apricity wouldn't both, as scum, post that way back to back. So scum read, but depending on how KOC/Moody flip I could see it changing (Moody flips town - apricity scum, moody flipping scum - apricity town. KOC flip town - apricity scum, KOC flip scum - apricity town).
Thunder~BALLZ - Needs to be subbed. Hard null.

Why is there no texas on the player list? Probably like blazade they weren't replaced by their sub on the list so oh well.

Bonus round
Texas - Scum read. Like I said before, I feel like in this game scum have taken an active role in misleading village to encourage mislynches and texas's behavior fits right into that. Besides encouraging lynches for extremely, uncharactically, weak reasoning and being wishy washy on them for that weak reasoning. There's his intro reads post that I recall seeing. Now I don't actually remember that post since I wasn't caring when I actually read it...but here's some interesting info.

When MS has been subbing people, he's been doing it in such a way that people know who they are subbing in for before they do it, and they have time before they sub because MS waits for their confirmation before doing it. What this means, is if texas believed he was going to be subbing into a scum slot he had time before he was in the game and learned teammates to go back and get reads that are entirely neutral, after all he would legitimatlly not know who scum are yet he can then join as scum and post that, faking a pro town reads list that in all honesty should be null. Now I respect texas enough as a player to think he could guess when he might be subbing into a scum slot if he was following this game so I see this as a likely scenario that adds further to the texas = scum idea.

Anyways
town: Jalmont, Whydon, 3p1k and maybe maybe maybe haruno?
scum: earlio, moody, KOC, Apricity and texas
idlers/null: everyone else

voting time, amongst those. I feel most confidant honestly between moody/texas though between them, I think moody being scum could clear apricity for me. So lynch moody
Asek; twin, and thunder are all dead. Too lazy to check atm but like 99% sure texas subbed in for mitril.
 
Will be back tonight to respond to some of this stuff, and disect hopes readlist a bit more thoroughly. If you need me before then ping me, i should still be checking the thread periodically.
 
Hi 3p1k I have zero reads right now. Once in a blue moon I play a mafia game where I have no fucking idea what I’m doing and this is the one apparently.

How should I fix this?
 
FH why does your reread post start off as responding to things that caught his attention and after quoting 2 posts turns into a tunnel on me lmao
It seems we are fated to tunnel each other in any noc we both are in
 
To adress two big misconceptions FH seems to have : Jordan is not a newbie who does not know how to play the game, and we are NOT going to policy lynch someone claiming persuade early.
The point is that no one is going to believe a persuader town claim near deadline and we will lynch them in that scenario, them claiming of their own volition early being the only way for me to consider that they may be town. The only downside of this if persuade is town is that it tells mafia to hit someone else if they want to find a more powerful role.
 
Me telling idlers that they are being anti town was really about making it clear that they're setting themselves up to be mislynched, with aubisio/earlio in mind. Durza/haruno/hawkie were completely afk and were not the target audience.
 
FH I don't think you realize how bad 712, 716 and 726 looked
Like seriously ??? they really objectively don't. Except for 'my' 716 post, that one does look terrible. How dare I hack into someone else's account and post as them.
FH why does your reread post start off as responding to things that caught his attention and after quoting 2 posts turns into a tunnel on me lmao
It seems we are fated to tunnel each other in any noc we both are in
Because a lot of your posts pinged me as being super scummy

lynch jordan
this is what I'm talking about though. Suddenly jumping off one bandwagon to another with no explination why. Stuff like this is why I'm pretty confident you are scum.
 
To adress two big misconceptions FH seems to have : Jordan is not a newbie who does not know how to play the game, and we are NOT going to policy lynch someone claiming persuade early.
The point is that no one is going to believe a persuader town claim near deadline and we will lynch them in that scenario, them claiming of their own volition early being the only way for me to consider that they may be town. The only downside of this if persuade is town is that it tells mafia to hit someone else if they want to find a more powerful role.
Also this post just.... I think you do know of course how absolutely easy it would be as mafia to take a persuade claim and get a mislynch on them. All it takes is one newb town to claim persuade and boom, you have a mislynch that you've set up to take advantage of.
 
Hi 3p1k I have zero reads right now. Once in a blue moon I play a mafia game where I have no fucking idea what I’m doing and this is the one apparently.

How should I fix this?
Let me level with ya, im probably the last person you should ask on how to get reads considering how well mine have worked out this game.
On a more serious note i have absolutely no clue how to engage with this post. Reread over the thread a time or two ig and see if you can pick up on anything? Im not expecting you to come out and lead town into a blaze of glory or anything crazy just give me something to work off of, because not having reads from a slot makes it significantly harder to forge a read on that slot.
 
Let me level with ya, im probably the last person you should ask on how to get reads considering how well mine have worked out this game.
On a more serious note i have absolutely no clue how to engage with this post. Reread over the thread a time or two ig and see if you can pick up on anything? Im not expecting you to come out and lead town into a blaze of glory or anything crazy just give me something to work off of, because not having reads from a slot makes it significantly harder to forge a read on that slot.

The thread serch function, too. Very useful for checking interactions. Plug one name in the search bar and another player's name in the member bar.
 
Like seriously ??? they really objectively don't. Except for 'my' 716 post, that one does look terrible. How dare I hack into someone else's account and post as them.

Because a lot of your posts pinged me as being super scummy


this is what I'm talking about though. Suddenly jumping off one bandwagon to another with no explination why. Stuff like this is why I'm pretty confident you are scum.
1) oops meant 718
2) see that's the thing, I was leaning town on your slot before you made those three posts and they had me like ??? wtf is he talking about, if the persuade claims, they aren't going to be "easy mislynch bait for mafia" because guess what, we aren't that stupid ? we just stand to gain info if they do hence why we'd ask them to cooperate on the off chance that they're town ??
3) I was going to get back to pressuring Jordan after getting some effort out of you but I don't really care about convincing you so I guess it's fine if you tunnel me in yet another noc where i'm town
 
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