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Has Jordan literally ever defended Jalmont and earlio
Mixed thoughts on Jalmont and Knights, but apricity is also pretty scummy.

I'll be on for the next hour, so if anyone is here I can talk with them.
all right i see the whole of the past 2 pages has been Texas and Jalmont slinging shit at each other, but I don't think voting someone purely because their playstyle annoys you is better than voting a scumread.

I can't really say anything to defend myself from Texas, but while self-preservation is inherently more of a scum trait, some people as town (which I like to say includes me for the purpose of this defense) would place self-preservation as a beneficial trait to have when town as it lowers the PoE. The main argument on me is that I guess so yeah.

Back to real things, what are we going to do about Haruno and Durza?

I feel like I want to townread Jalmont for being so against the tide but then again it could be me being pocketed so.... I'd put him as town for now.


Vote MoodyCloud

Don't like that naked sheeping of Texas
is all I've found
 
here are the three people id be willing to vote today.

blazade - 0 posts on who he thinks is mafia except for me sort of?
whydon - afk BUT some posts which are mainly question asking. no personal content.
thunderballz - feels like hes trying the cryptic strat but im not really buying it.

haruno and durza are completely afk so i dont feel like we can vote them right now.
also found this, I'm leaning town on Jalmont rn but there sure were quite a few reasons to give him looks from d1/n1
 
Or maybe I really think Hawkie is town because I've seen him as town tunnel other town because that's the kind of guy he is? Plus he initiated the vote and, as I think I've explained very well BELOW the bolded bits, the wagon grew too fast too be all town. If I wanted to specifically avoid Hawkie's aggro I could just hop on the wagon for free towncred from Hawkie.
36 pages later this post is still bs by the way
 
no! absolutely not!

Here is what happened from xna's perspective. He submitted an action to MS saying "tonight i'm goign to check jalmont". He gets back an answer saying "town". Of course he is going to assume that means that jalmont is town. Of course in MS's PM the host did not say "btw you were redirected", that's the whole point of a redirect, to fuck with people without them knowing that they were fucked with.

you want to talk about xna disappearing? he disappeared last game too where he was town. and the game before that, cos i read that one. he's not an active player and he isn't obsessive about this game the way some of us are, but holy shit he's a cop that ISN'T COUNTERCLAIMED, you want to talk about "giving us more info with less margin for error on future days" why not keep the fucking cop alive and see what happens?

meanwhile, haruno is lying :/

i dont understand how this could be your conception of a redirector. as described by u, this role is extremely unfair and is essentially a bastard role

it also makes 0 sense to be on the village
 
Just so we're perfectly clear

Jordan is claiming to have town cop checks on both Jalmont and Earlio

Nowhere in the entire game has he posted in support of them, in spite of the fact that both isers came under heavy pressure and received multiple votes

And people still think this isn't a fakeclaim smh
 
A fakeclaim which, I might add, came when he was under heavy fire, came on two isers who were being heavily town read at the time, and featured neither anything tangible tying Jordans supposed result down nor any follow up to his claim with game state
 
To say nothing of the circumstantial evidence that outed cops traditionally lead the game by virtue of being all but locked town and yet Jordan has completely game flaked
 
Like seriously I can't be (and I know I'm not) the only one who is seeing how incredibly convenient the entire timing and content of the claim is.

Claiming cop is textbook play for scum about to get lynched, and literally everything else just reinforces this position
 
why is no one else concerned about the fact that former hope REDIRECTED jordans action onto APRICITY something jordans claims does not CORROBORATE

you would think that former hope would be ESPECIALLY concerned by this. i know i would be if i redirected someone and they claimed to have essentially not be redirected
 
FORMER HOPE should be chomping on the bit to lynch JORDAN here because his action literally directly CONTRADICTS what jordan claims he's done in this game

his FAILURE to do so makes me think the only EXPLANATION is that he and jordan are BOTH MAFIA covering up for their failure to communicate FAKE claims
 
Texas Cloverleaf do you think in this game we have no actual cop then? Considering we still have a protector on the field and watchers, I've honestly been waiting for an actual counterclaim since I do personally feel like in this set up (well, most set ups...) town has some form of inspection to clear people.

(also smh, making me feel like I'm defending him when really I just don't agree with your points)

I mean, stuff like
Nowhere in the entire game has he posted in support of them, in spite of the fact that both isers came under heavy pressure and received multiple votes

Would actually have weight to it if he had been an active poster. But I don't see how you can distinquish inactive posting from not supporting his clears.

A fakeclaim which, I might add, came when he was under heavy fire, came on two isers who were being heavily town read at the time, and featured neither anything tangible tying Jordans supposed result down nor any follow up to his claim with game state


I mean, again. I don't follow your reasoning as it's a massive outlier from traditional mafia and rational thought. Of course a claim would come when you are under pressure, when else is a user who doesn't want to claim going to claim otherwise? Not to mention making up that Jalmont and Earlio were users who were being heavily town read at the time. Like straight up I just looked best and both users in the reads I could find were basically "might be town but could also be mafia" so why are you making up that they were both widely town read? Not to mention, of those clears the only one I really care about is the first one and how he interacts with them the day before this since the other clear would have come last night and frankly (and disappointingly) he hasn't had the posts to actually examine for evidence.


To say nothing of the circumstantial evidence that outed cops traditionally lead the game by virtue of being all but locked town and yet Jordan has completely game flaked
I can give you plenty of examples of lock town completely flaking, like common sense dictates that's more the user than role. So again just ???

Like seriously I can't be (and I know I'm not) the only one who is seeing how incredibly convenient the entire timing and content of the claim is.

Claiming cop is textbook play for scum about to get lynched, and literally everything else just reinforces this position
I mean yes it is 1000% convenient. But here's the view from someone not tunneling, I can also see this world where he is town with his role claim and then, what else was he supposed to do? Not claim? Fake claim? So convenient yes but also entirely NAI.

why is no one else concerned about the fact that former hope REDIRECTED jordans action onto APRICITY something jordans claims does not CORROBORATE

you would think that former hope would be ESPECIALLY concerned by this. i know i would be if i redirected someone and they claimed to have essentially not be redirected
Because I'm using critical thinking skills to apply knowledge that I publicly stated at the start of the day that I used my redirect and who I used it on and so XX not stating he was redirect feels more like a genuine mistake then scum move since well...it's public knowledge. If I hadn't revealed that publicly or at all and XX had posted, then yes absolutely I'd be on his ass. But seriously, how can you have a brain and think scum would knowingly contradict public information, like that only happens if he's actually trying to push to get me lynched and that hasn't been happening.

Anyways, I'm getting really annoyed now. but to summerize, I don't really like Jordan's slot right now and I want to see them flip. But the reasons and things you guys are bringing up are absolutely absurd and just frankly, illogical.
 
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