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Duskfall98

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No point asking the question: "Why have you chosen this exact moment to bring up misbalance?"; because your response will be something such as "I am town this game" which you would answer wether you are town or scum anyway.
 
No point asking the question: "Why have you chosen this exact moment to bring up misbalance?"; because your response will be something such as "I am town this game" which you would answer wether you are town or scum anyway.
Why would I say that? It would be an insufficient answer to your question

Have I dodged a question by saying “I am town” in this game?
 
Overall verdict: No significant reason to vote for either party in the argument.
Duskfall is new so picking up on everything and interpreting it as suspicious is to be expected. Although it is a little bit suspicious how he went about it, there's not enough reason for me to vote him.
Texas seems justified in calling out Duskfall, his reasoning is sound and I don't think there's any reason for him to think Duskfall is new. Not in this thread at the very least.
The main scumread I'm getting from this is actually on Metal Sonic. The tone of this:

is saying that Dusk being new is trivial and that anybody that didn't know this who tried to hunt him is likely to be scum. The tone is very antagonistic towards Texas but tbh I don't think he's really in the wrong. I also don't think he'd pick off low hanging fruit this obviously if he was scum, seems a bit more experienced than that to me.

So now that I have gone from no read to small read, I shall pursue the small read a bit.
Unvote: Jayflush
Vote: Metal Sonic

Under normal circumstances, this wouldn't be enough for me to vote. I have no reads on anyone else though so... yeah. Here's the vote.


Also I thought that Former Hope vote was an RVS joke... idk though.
I feel like scum wouldn't make a post like this so early when they can still ride the rvs wave and not avoid committing to opinions
 

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Why would I say that? It would be an insufficient answer to your question

Have I dodged a question by saying “I am town” in this game?
You havent but you said you "Didn’t complain about it last game because I was scum" in an earlier post, indicating your reasoning is allignment based.

I assumed you would've carried forward this reasoning, however perhaps I was pre-emptive, I apologise. Would you like to change your mind about why you bring up the balancing topic now?
 

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Caffeine's read list:

Reading scum: Metal Sonic
Leaning scum: Apricity, Duskfall
Just Neutral: Jayflush, Sciatic, FH, Viper, Duskfall, Wawmen
Leaning town: Texas, Moody.
Reading Town: Nobody.

Yet to post: Whydon, ragmatho

Reason behind the scumlean on Apricity:
vote caffeineboost
Kind of stand by my post

But also people need to know I’m not fucking around this game

Want to vote caffeine with me
Wagoning anybody for no reason while claiming you're not fucking around seems a bit off to me. There isn't enough for me to place any official FoS or vote or anything like that but it doesn't seem right... especially when the person you're currently yelling at is Duskfall. Shit doesn't make sense.

Anyway, Duskfall now:
vote apricity
Vote apricity.
Why is it that you only vote for apricity after somebody else has voted for them? You've been arguing with him for a decent chunk of time yet didn't vote until after Moody posted his vote for apricity. Scum lean might be a bit strong for this because you are by your own admission a new player but this is still a noteworthy action.

None of these actions are significant enough for me to change my vote. Metal Sonic's insistence that Texas and I are scum without giving any reasoning whatsoever seems very strange to me.
 

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I haven't been arguing with him for a long time, I was with Texas. Apricity only replied this morning and I thought it was fair to wait for him to defend himself. I gave him a chance to explain and waited until he left to vote for him, because he failed to convince me that he's town.
 

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I haven't been arguing with him for a long time, I was with Texas. Apricity only replied this morning and I thought it was fair to wait for him to defend himself. I gave him a chance to explain and waited until he left to vote for him, because he failed to convince me that he's town.
The timing of the vote itself is rather odd.
At 8:27 am GMT +1, apricity posted. Your next post was 2 hours and 13 minutes later followed by a vote 3 minutes after that. Within those 2 hours and 13 minutes, Moody had explained his thoughts and placed a vote on apricity. The explanation (which I have bolded) doesn't entirely add up. The posts in your discussion before that had on average 2 to 5 minutes between them. It doesn't make sense for you to not respond for 2 hours then vote for him when he isn't here any more. Why wait for him to leave then vote? Why not vote for him when he's here? Why not ask him the question you want a response to when he's here and not 2 hours after he's posted? Your game play from a town perspective does not make sense.
 

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The timing of the vote itself is rather odd.
At 8:27 am GMT +1, apricity posted. Your next post was 2 hours and 13 minutes later followed by a vote 3 minutes after that. Within those 2 hours and 13 minutes, Moody had explained his thoughts and placed a vote on apricity. The explanation (which I have bolded) doesn't entirely add up. The posts in your discussion before that had on average 2 to 5 minutes between them. It doesn't make sense for you to not respond for 2 hours then vote for him when he isn't here any more. Why wait for him to leave then vote? Why not vote for him when he's here? Why not ask him the question you want a response to when he's here and not 2 hours after he's posted? Your game play from a town perspective does not make sense.
My work day starts at 9am and my break is at 10:30am. At 8:27am I made my last post before leaving my house. My next post was at break.

I voted after he left because it was clear his defence was over, while he is still commenting he could bring up a relevant point as to why he is town.
 

CaffeineBoost

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My work day starts at 9am and my break is at 10:30am. At 8:27am I made my last post before leaving my house. My next post was at break.

I voted after he left because it was clear his defence was over, while he is still commenting he could bring up a relevant point as to why he is town.
Fair enough.
Moving Duskfall to Neutral.
 

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