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NOC Hope+1 Game Thread

ragmatho said:
Asek had to make me post.

As far as i know, i believe that FH, Metal Sonic, Duskfall98, Texas and CaffeineBoost are part of the town.
I'm not 100% sure about Jalmont, MoodyCloud, ItzViper482 and the other 2 people that haven't posted here.

And for the sake of it... Lynch apricity
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HE POSTS! AT LONG LAST HE POSTS!
Mind giving reasons for your re-
Whydon said:
Me no likey this vote


Also ragmatho made reads on town/scum but without any reasoning. Might not mean much in terms of the game but idk.
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What he said...

Rag and MS seem to be on apricity for the sake of wagoning. The other votes on apricity seem to be genuine but I am shaky on FH due to experiences which quite frankly give me PTSD.

Reading scum: Metal Sonic
Leaning scum: Apricity
Just Neutral: Jayflush, Sciatic, Viper, Duskfall, Wawmen, Rag, Whydon
Leaning town: Texas, Moody, FH
Reading Town: Nobody

No intention to join this wagon until it is closer to the deadline and it is obvious MS will not be getting lynched. Rag is neutral for now since there isn't much for me to go on but I think rag's the 3rd most sus player here. General inactivity followed by a blatant bandwagon doesn't look particularly good.
 
Whydon commented on ragmatho's lack of reasoning but has said he doesnt like metal sonic or FH without any reasoning, a bit suspicious of him as it stands.

On the other hand I'm pretty sure FH and caffeine are town because their points have been pretty logical to me, but they could just be good at finding holes I guess.

Leaning towards town with moody and jay also but they haven't posted enough for me to get a strong enough read. My gut kind of just tells me they feel legit right now.
 
Former Hope said:
I'm also kind of gut reading this, but I also know hals scum style last game was to bus early and for shoddy reasons. His first lynch was on cb and has kept sparring with them since.

Cb on the other hand called out hal for his lackluster pushes, which isn't somthing he did last game, but more so his push feels weird on dusk. It read to me like he was adding dusk in there to balance out bussing hal and it read as extemely "though protest to much" and wordy without really saying anything.
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ok let's get one thing right here at least

Jul 1, 2018
fh are you bussing i'd prefer not to lynch you but if we are bussing i'm going to grab all the credit i can

This is what i posted when you started geting strung up last game by asek. You were not the designated day 1 bus like you said last game. You were just fucked because you were transparent.

I town read you this game because last game you were flailing and disinterested and I don't see that here so I'm going to talk to you like you're town. I didn't scumread you last game because it's my style. I scumread you alst game because you were getting strung up by asek and so I asked you if you were ok with me bussing, you said that you rather I didn't, which is why end of day 1 and 2 I busted my fucking testicles trying to save you

I don't bus as scum without permission

This all above is kind of personal, I feel like when FH said in postgame that "people did'nt understand what his motive was" or whatever I felt kind of slighted because honestly his motive was never to get bussed, it just turned out that way because the entirety of the fucking game read him as such. Anyways please get this through your head.

The other thing that kind of worries me about this post but not really is this comment on caffeineboost. 1. you don't know enough about my alignemtna t the time of this post to reasonably start making associative tells, 2. "wordy without saying anything" is literally why we got a cb mislynch last game and you should know that

That being said a cursory understanding of your play last game informs me that you are town here so instead of pushing you i guess all i have to say it fuck off
 
I DO NOT LIKE DUSKFALL!

I think duskfall is scum! This will be the topic of this post.

Duskfall98 said:
No point asking the question: "Why have you chosen this exact moment to bring up misbalance?"; because your response will be something such as "I am town this game" which you would answer wether you are town or scum anyway.
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This is not a post town makes! This is a post scum makes when he wants to drive a mislynch! This is because when you make a post like this, you reduce the area in which your scumread has to operate to zero! You are not making this post to determine a person's alignment, you make this kind of post to get a person lynched, and it is clear to me at least that nothing I have done so far warranted this behavior!

It is difficult I know for town to read through the thread, I don't blame you. Here is what happened. I made a post about the game being imba because of the lack of d1 hammers. Duskfall in post 32 said that he thinks my opinion is scummy.

I AM GOING TO USE ALL CAPS HERE BECAUSE I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. DUSKFALL'S VOTE IS ACCOMPANIED BY AN INQUIRY OF WHY I CHOSE TO USE THIS TIME TO BRING UP THE IMBALANCE IN THE GAME. I HAVE IN FACT ALREADY ANSWERED THIS QUESTION ONE PAGE PRIOR ON POST 50. IT IS UNREASONABLE TO THINK THAT THIS IS SCUMMY BEHAVIOR

i am going to be SUPER thorough with this. when i sign up for a game i very rarely read the rules. i signed up for the last metal sonic game for instance without knowing what kind of lynch mechanic it used (it was clarified in the game and not in OP so i guess reading the signup thread had no consequence in this occasion). when i found out that there was no day 1 hammer i was quite happy about it because i was scum. in THIS particular game, i signed up off of the high of having won the last game and without really reading what rules were being used, but i signed up anyway bveecause i like smogon and i like playing mafia here, so this retarded "oh you have 23% chance of being disadvantaged when you think scum is more likely to win" is retarded even assuming that i actually read the rules, because i play these games with no consideration towards balance and with all consideration to the community i play with.
 
I DO NOT LIKE CAFFEINEBOOST!

i think that he is scum trying to gain cred on the back of a town mislynch!

i think this because he is being very awkward in starting out with a scumread on metal sonic, putting me in lean scum, and then not making an effort to follow through with the game! go read the last game we played in, greek mythology. go look at how cb questions and is hesitant about things and feels like a fish out of water because he is uninformed. He does not have this quality this game, and therefore I believe that he is in fact informed! His tone is compeltely different form what he sounded like last game. I can't even remember when he gave readlists. I scumread CB because I think his posting is fabricated
 
viper and moody have been afk the past few days i can testify to this, i think their alignemtns are totally random, confaiclus probably also falls into this category but i don't have their message close to the top on discord
 
i believe texas and jalmont to be town, the former read developed with an easy understanding of i think if texas is scum then he would've tried to push me at least a little

the latter read i have because i think it's hard to lurk and be as nonchalant and sit perched on a high horse as scum. it's possible but at least i think when you come down from this position to deliver your sermon, if you are scum then you want to push a little harder on your positions, whereas jalmont sounds like town indecision
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
Nvm this is worse vote duskfall98

The irony of this post which itself is overly verbose to try and demonstrate towniness is almost as ironic as me getting a ticket for warning another driver about a police speed trap by flashing my high beams and signalling a second police cruiser
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this still seems real on reread
 
CaffeineBoost said:
Overall verdict: No significant reason to vote for either party in the argument.
Duskfall is new so picking up on everything and interpreting it as suspicious is to be expected. Although it is a little bit suspicious how he went about it, there's not enough reason for me to vote him.
Texas seems justified in calling out Duskfall, his reasoning is sound and I don't think there's any reason for him to think Duskfall is new. Not in this thread at the very least.
The main scumread I'm getting from this is actually on Metal Sonic. The tone of this:

is saying that Dusk being new is trivial and that anybody that didn't know this who tried to hunt him is likely to be scum. The tone is very antagonistic towards Texas but tbh I don't think he's really in the wrong. I also don't think he'd pick off low hanging fruit this obviously if he was scum, seems a bit more experienced than that to me.

So now that I have gone from no read to small read, I shall pursue the small read a bit.
Unvote: Jayflush
Vote: Metal Sonic
Under normal circumstances, this wouldn't be enough for me to vote. I have no reads on anyone else though so... yeah. Here's the vote.


Also I thought that Former Hope vote was an RVS joke... idk though.
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like the vote but still unfortunately really dislike you
 
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