caff d1 post "analysis"
#19
Not a fan of the immediate VT claim btw. Not scummy or anything just... bad imo.
IIoA, kinda filler
#71
Null on everyone. Not hopping on the viper bandwagon because I don't fully see it.
at this point you should be able to make reads off of some people, you've seen multiple interactions that could seem particularly scummy
i think the viper bandwagon is a fair point though, but the apathy here is concerning
The VT claim serves as no help for getting a read. Intuiting anything from this would be pointless.
hard disagree, multiple people have concluded thoughts about heal but i guess i'll let this one slide
#134
Day 1 VT claim is a bad thing and I don't like it. Please claim something else. Preferably TFPTSLBOOIA.
I'd say that Hal is always mad but in the two games I've played with him he has been scum both times. I have seen him get mad in a game I hosted but it was more FFA. I think it's just his personality though.
Texas is the beacon of light and we should sheep him unless he turns out to be scum and writes a random living player's name in red. He has posted a decent amount which does tend to be town lean for him.
Ayy lmao it's actually his first time.
Never played with Smogon Account. Inactivity like this is not particularly useful.
Dusk is fairly new iirc so his deflecting is actually a fairly plausible reason for him to be scum with Hal... idk though.
Viper is a hard one to pin for me as well. His reactions to posts make me think he's probably scum but it's hard to tell.
Caffeine is almost definitely scum because he has a very ugly nose.
Anywhom. Is there a vote count? I saw L-1 get mentioned at some point... wait I haven't read the entirety of the thread yet. BACK IN A MOMENT!
this whole post just reeks of filler
basically what you decipher from this post is
texas town lean
everyone else null, except you don't even mention smogacc/lazer/heal/me?????? the latter three have posts in this game that can be indicative of alignment at this point of the game
viper could be scum
duskfall98/apricity are buddying so probable scumteam, but noting that hal's personality is how he always asks so he may not be scum
this is about 5-6 pages in the game so you
definitely can assert/strengthen/make reads at this point of the game if at least a bit wary, caution is always prevalent but you entered with a post like this and made relatively no conclusions and doesn't do anything in regards to scumhunting at all
#142
Hey Nuxl, you seem experienced for a first timer. This means one of several things.
- You have played live games hence the specific mention of forum games in your signup post.
- You have played forum games and are a compulsive liar
- You are actually in the Sicilian Mafia and have learnt the game through real life.
Pick. My read on you will depend greatly on the option you choose.
okay, this question is actually so fucking weird for reasons that i bought up before. how is my past experience at all AI? what conclusion are you trying to make here? why are you only asking me who everyone is TRing here?
#223
jk he's actually trolling; so his only question this game is completely irrelevant to the context and doesn't advance his mindset at all? ok lol
#243
You are reading way too much into a joke. I am aware that my activity has been rather bad but still.
your activity is irrelevant to the fact that you basically admitted to trolling lol, why ever do this as town?
i get your previous jokes but they're just that versus something that should legitimately only be asked in context of RvS, if ever at all?
I don't see anybody as particularly towny. This isn't due to nobody being towny, I just have a hard time trusting that people are contributing genuinely.
this is now 11-12 pages into the thread and yet you can't get anything conclusive at all here? lol?
in previous games even though your d1 activity wasn't stellar you still put in the effort to scumhunt and ask real questions and suspect people and point out things you found weird and as well as posting readlists. this isn't done this game which is concerning
As for my suspect list, I currently lean towards a lynch for Heal or IFML. I'd only lynch IFML to sheep Texas since when he's town he seems to be very good at reading people. As bad as it is, I do trust his read a decent amount.
why sheep texas if you think he has the potential to not be genuine
Heal's initial VT claim alongside his idea that either Hal or Viper is scum and if Viper is scum then I'm scum etc. doesn't really make too much sense to me.
wait i thought you said heal's VT claim was something you couldn't get a read from? it's being brought up here to paint him in a bad light?
this whole read in general seems very fillerish but probably with lack of explanations
Hal and Viper is in my eyes a plausible scumpair since Hal could easily use Viper as a way to establish a TvS argument which has occurred in games before this. Hal is suspicious as well and I don't fully trust that his read on me is genuine but there's not much else I have to say about Hal.
first point of analysis in the entire game barring the fact that hal's usual pressure onto viper in past games is scum!hal on town!viper; just seems to me like a good way to point out something that seems to be "makes you wanna think". this is never approached at all during the rest of d1 btw
also ifml literally brought this up earlier and i have made a counterargument to this but doesn't respond to anything previously mentioned in the past few pages
As far as less precise readings go, I think that there is at least 1 scum in the non passive passive aggressive love triangle between Hal Heal and Viper.
IFML could very well be scum if Texas's read is to be followed. Smogon account's complete inactivity makes him simultaneously a hard null and a scum lean. If it continues then I reckon the null bit will disappear.
The most likely candidates for town would be Texas and Nuxl but it's too early for me to determine if they really are town.
So the vote pool is as follows: one of Hal, Heal, IFML, and Viper.
this post doesn't really mention who he thinks is most scummy; and this whole line of reasoning doesn't seem geniune on a second look, nor changes his vote to jump on a wagon
#259
I can't say that I have personal thoughts on IFML without saying what Texas has already said. He seems to be in a scum mindset. It's been pointed out and I kinda agree with it. You haven't misread.
why is echoing someone a problem? barring lack of analysis. it's cool to get new perspectives because this way we can approach people in a different light and catch things that we missed
I got lazy... well, returned to being lazy. Also are these one word answers? I gave one as a response to Nuxl and you've gone ahead and pluralised it.
uses laziness as an excuse. this isn't a question that gives you a conclusion. do you not want to be townread or anything?
Low activity really. Everything that I have to say rn has been said... well except these responses. Again, the only example of me undermining something is Nuxl's post saying "distancing". It was what, page 1 or 2? Of course there's going to be uncertainty. I'm not gonna waste my vote though. Always vote the scummiest looking person (even if they're not particularly scummy).
again, echoing is a problem? there is no post in question that may look odd, or any scumhunting that you'd like to partake in?
also at this point, caffeine's current vote is on heal
#261
"I scumread hal. Unvote hal."
filler
doesn't provide any analysis or response to vipers post aside from this nor again in d1
#265
okay I'll concede that one
filler
#266
Can somebody post a vote count?
this could be a genuine question or an opportunity to jump on a wagon
#284
PR fishing in public can lead to giving information to scum. There is a 66% chance that this information will be useful to town. There is a 100% chance that this information could be useful to scum. It does not make sense to fish for PR's as town. No point in jeopardising town's PR's by publicly pointing them out. When the time is right, they will claim.
attempt to gain towncred?
#366
Unvote: Heal
Vote: Smogon Account
jumps on the easy L-2 wagon, does not bring up smog acc at ALL before his null and/or scum lean
Weak reasons behind all his supposed reads, sometimes no reasons at all
yep this was brought up earlier
and he's willing to give up his scum lean on Dusk to vote for me
um he didn't say this at all? he doesn't even say dusk is scummy, where did you get to this conclusion? he says Dusk is town multiple points in the game?
and doesn't even have the decency to tell us why. He just did it because Hal did it.
other people have lacked reasoning to their votes earlier, you call him out on this compared to a few other d1 posters?
interesting conclusion, where did you come to this?
Why has IFML gone from a scum read to a town read?
an attempt at townhunting/understanding reasoning compared to the entirety of caff's d1 when it's likely Smog Acc will be lynched irregardless
in conclusion I feel Caffeine's play this game is entirely reliant on coasting, there are issues i have with his positioning this game compared to his attempts in greek mythology/hope +1
he is a lot more apathetic and is whatever at multiple points of this game and doesn't really attempt to town hunt and/or scum hunt at all
alternatively he is just not reading the game at all
lemme know what you guys think
TL;DR:
Mr. Inactive suddenly gets active and still somehow says nothing. /QUOTE]
