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NOC Small Street Game Thread - Ended- TOWN wins!
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This is pure as the fallen snow on top of a virgin drinking hot cocoa
Can you explain why? Also, are you going to need to be pressured to end up voting?
Texas Cloverleaf Did I adequately answer your question earlier? I'm not sure I did, I get distracted easily. Heres my original response to quote 1, if it helps anybody.
On the second quote Texas, I would like to address each point you made, labeled below.
1.) I believe the dichotomy already existed, and I was just emphasizing it.
2.) I meant to propose that if we became confident that one of them was a mafia, and then the one we lynch turns out to be town, that we should not lose our confidence and consider lynching the other one to *almost* guarantee a mafia kill. I communicated that thought poorly.
3.) Yeah I thought everyone would already agree with me, and i was just voicing what everyone else was thinking. Apparently no one else was thinking that. I have nothing to rebuttal this one with.
4.) What specifically are my 'empty calories' and 'fluffing'? I tried to shorten the post as much as possible while still having enough details to make an argument.
Please make a case to answer these questions and refute my statements. I would appreciate it. Also, anyone else, feel free to chime in on my rebuttals. Thanks!
It's usually "Oh My Gosh Ur Scum/Stupid"
It typically applies when someone starts to scum read someone in response to being scum read by them.
A lot of people fall into the fallacy of thinking its scummy or that scum do it more often. But from my own experience of having omgused plenty of times and having seen it before, I think it has very little to do with alignment and more to do with person. Apricity for example (not to call him out, hes just the first to come to mind) tends to omgus anyone who starts a push on him, regardless of alignment.
Duskfall98 can we get a vote count
MoodyCloud I left our mafia pm by accident. Can you remind me who's on our team again?
ive pointed out posts from marth i dislike w/ content and tone and none of his posts hit me as v towny
cs is because of 1/3 sheeping, 1/3 meta, 1/3 tone
w/ me not voting its just that i didnt consider it cause its not important to how i want to play and how im reading marth who i would be voting rn
ill drop it tho cause at worse it starts some fun discussions
vote bluedoom
Votecount 1.7
Ds (1): former hope
Former hope (4): apricity, DS, csyager, mewtwohidden
CsYager (2): Texas cloverleaf, stealthbomber
Bluedoom (1): vooper
Not voting (9): ZestOfLife, Nuxl, tonithetourguide, Drookez, Sanjana, moodycloud, Hannah, bluedoom, samoyed
Deadline: 7pm est, 17th April, approx 22 hours
Hammer: 9
Ds (1): former hope
Former hope (4): apricity, DS, csyager, mewtwohidden
CsYager (2): Texas cloverleaf, stealthbomber
Bluedoom (1): vooper
Not voting (9): ZestOfLife, Nuxl, tonithetourguide, Drookez, Sanjana, moodycloud, Hannah, bluedoom, samoyed
Deadline: 7pm est, 17th April, approx 22 hours
Hammer: 9
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I'm literally just going to do this as a stream of consciousness while rereading the thread so not everything is going to be relevant.
Former iso part 1
From town!former perspective this is a decent comment, but scum!former would also know whether vengeful is town or scum. Basically wifom.
tbh I don't like any of this for reasons I've stated before.
atp day1 has officially started, and white flag was not officially announced to be on or off. In future posts, you say that when the day started and white flag wasn't announced, you assumed it was off. Idk wheher you reached the conclusion yet that scum doesn't take a 4th member without white flag. Imo, scum only take public vanilla if there are 4 scum, and I don't see a reason why there could be a team of 3, and one of those is vanilla.
oh. tbh i see vengeful / double / faith healer or night governor as the correct picks if there are three.
its kinda suboptimal to pick vanilla unless there are 4, but eh, its all wifom. If cs flips scum I would be incredibly shocked.
so at this point you think white flag is turned off, but recruiting a 4th is still likely or do you think white flag may or? middle path is possible tbh.
Not sure about this myself. I felt his post #241 wasn't very helpful and nobody was even talking about lynching CS. I don't think anything else he has said has really stood out at this point. I'll investigate this more later. I want your explanation on why he pinged you, and I'll compare it to my findings later.
This is honestly not ai, but not a helpful attitude for town to have imo. I mean, maybe you could've gotten a read on sb/blue/toni from this, but apricity was never going to give you a serious response. Keep in mind, all you've posted to this point is gamespec and the comment on bluedoom which idk if you've ever backed up? Still, fair enough ig.
atp stealth seemed a little jumpy so I can see why you would vote him tbh. After reading the thread again, this feels fairly natural. Tbh though, I think its fair for him to ask you reads in a vacuum. I want to know what the goal of this vote was, and what exactly made sb seem scummy, assuming
don't think getting double voter to claim is a good idea, but ig if you still assume white flag is off, this is reasonable.
this makes sense with his previous sentiment idk og I agree with it yet. I'll basically have to iso every
atp in the game I could agree to a wagon on all except ds/cs tbh. reasonable reads.
Atp I haven't done a DS. iso or analyzed him particularly closely. I don't see his tone as particularly stiff though. Really want to know what it is that made you upgrade. Not sure I agree, but haven't seen anything particularly unjustifiable so far except you might seem a little opportunistic, but ig that makes coherent sense
Stealth's post makes sense to me, and is the type of post I might make if I thought about it tbh. I don't think it warrants this reaction. Up until page 13 you were fixated on hal and didn't produce any actual reads, and while at this point you have voted stealth and blue, you haven't supported those reads with much of anything substantive-something you criticize hal for.
okay fair enough. the part about leaving the pressure on is straight up goofy though. I think you have enough s
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Okay, so you change your mind on DS. I can agree with that I suppose. This part about the randomizer is straight up goofy atp the meminess has gone to far.
Former iso part 1
From town!former perspective this is a decent comment, but scum!former would also know whether vengeful is town or scum. Basically wifom.
tbh I don't like any of this for reasons I've stated before.
atp day1 has officially started, and white flag was not officially announced to be on or off. In future posts, you say that when the day started and white flag wasn't announced, you assumed it was off. Idk wheher you reached the conclusion yet that scum doesn't take a 4th member without white flag. Imo, scum only take public vanilla if there are 4 scum, and I don't see a reason why there could be a team of 3, and one of those is vanilla.
oh. tbh i see vengeful / double / faith healer or night governor as the correct picks if there are three.
its kinda suboptimal to pick vanilla unless there are 4, but eh, its all wifom. If cs flips scum I would be incredibly shocked.
so at this point you think white flag is turned off, but recruiting a 4th is still likely or do you think white flag may or? middle path is possible tbh.
Not sure about this myself. I felt his post #241 wasn't very helpful and nobody was even talking about lynching CS. I don't think anything else he has said has really stood out at this point. I'll investigate this more later. I want your explanation on why he pinged you, and I'll compare it to my findings later.
This is honestly not ai, but not a helpful attitude for town to have imo. I mean, maybe you could've gotten a read on sb/blue/toni from this, but apricity was never going to give you a serious response. Keep in mind, all you've posted to this point is gamespec and the comment on bluedoom which idk if you've ever backed up? Still, fair enough ig.
atp stealth seemed a little jumpy so I can see why you would vote him tbh. After reading the thread again, this feels fairly natural. Tbh though, I think its fair for him to ask you reads in a vacuum. I want to know what the goal of this vote was, and what exactly made sb seem scummy, assuming
don't think getting double voter to claim is a good idea, but ig if you still assume white flag is off, this is reasonable.
this makes sense with his previous sentiment idk og I agree with it yet. I'll basically have to iso every
atp in the game I could agree to a wagon on all except ds/cs tbh. reasonable reads.
Atp I haven't done a DS. iso or analyzed him particularly closely. I don't see his tone as particularly stiff though. Really want to know what it is that made you upgrade. Not sure I agree, but haven't seen anything particularly unjustifiable so far except you might seem a little opportunistic, but ig that makes coherent sense
Stealth's post makes sense to me, and is the type of post I might make if I thought about it tbh. I don't think it warrants this reaction. Up until page 13 you were fixated on hal and didn't produce any actual reads, and while at this point you have voted stealth and blue, you haven't supported those reads with much of anything substantive-something you criticize hal for.
okay fair enough. the part about leaving the pressure on is straight up goofy though. I think you have enough s
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Okay, so you change your mind on DS. I can agree with that I suppose. This part about the randomizer is straight up goofy atp the meminess has gone to far.
I think even without white flap 4p is still possible. They have 85 points and it costs 80, but there's enough 0 or low cost roles to still make it feasible
also it's just sort of a running joke to use a randomizer to guess the mafia team. It hasn't been yet right, but some day it will be
also it's just sort of a running joke to use a randomizer to guess the mafia team. It hasn't been yet right, but some day it will be
also MewtwoHidden you aren't going to get an explanation for 'pings' from most people. Like for me it's a gut feeling. I'm not going to try to explain a gut feeling (especially one that happened over 24 hours ago).
I mean, they know who it isnt so far lol
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The reason why I was on Csyager in the first place was because I wanted to see how he was reacting to pressure. That is why I did not explain any of my reasoning (because explaining pressure votes is against the spirit of pressure votes). I am content with how he has responded to the pressure. I am open to other options now.
The reason why I was on Csyager in the first place was because I wanted to see how he was reacting to pressure. That is why I did not explain any of my reasoning (because explaining pressure votes is against the spirit of pressure votes). I am content with how he has responded to the pressure. I am open to other options now.
former iso part 2
Back to this? What provoked this in particular. Why aren't you pursuing your other leads like bluedoom or stealth, and instead are focusing on hal who has made only a handful of posts and that you think is towny? If you don't want him to dominate who the town votes for, why not focus on your reads rather than meming against him.
Back to this? What provoked this in particular. Why aren't you pursuing your other leads like bluedoom or stealth, and instead are focusing on hal who has made only a handful of posts and that you think is towny? If you don't want him to dominate who the town votes for, why not focus on your reads rather than meming against him.
I've dealt with this problem before and the answer is to ignore him. I don't know your experiences, but in Mayor Mafia hal tried to do this and me and DS. gamesolved. I don't think what you're doing atp with hal makes much sense at all, when you have other leads (stealth/bluedoom to pursue)
Half the game was idling and still is, so I still don't get this.
Ehhh I want to say this is legitimate.
I don't, on the other hand, think you should be cleared for it.
I don't see how DS. is saying texas or hal are town, or why you made that assumption? Tunneling is mostly a town thing ig but scum can use it as well.why do you automatically assume texas is town here?
I don't see how anything Texas said should make you decide to vote dsunvote, vote ds
Are you the biggest wagon atp? isn't DS.? Either way, the more I think about it the more it feels like doing that iso of me was to try to pocket my vote tbh.
What he did to me last game seems like what he's doing to you this game. Tbf he was town last game.
yh I can see this on either sb or toni, assumin
uhhh. CS isn't mafia my dude. Have you read his posts?
bluedoom might not, but in my limited ability to read tone I think DS. has played similarly whether its the noncommittal voting or just his general posting style I can see this being town ds., but I'm gonna iso him too so we'll see if I change my mind.
uhhh, I feel like you have some vendetta with drookez, esp since there are 3 othe
uhh from what I read, DS. literally just said you shouldn't get a derpclear which is exactly what you yourself agreed with.
maybe
Atp I feel like former v ds. is tvt. I'll iso ds. later, but that's my gut atm. I'm honestly more skeptical of what little I've heard from Texas than either of them, and I only voted for Former in the first place bc I was looking at it as a dichotomy.
Either way, I don't support a lynch on either of them right now. I feel like I'm more interested in a Stealth or BD lynch d1.
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Either way, I don't support a lynch on either of them right now. I feel like I'm more interested in a Stealth or BD lynch d1.
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