NOC D6 Mafia Game Thread [Day 4; Deadline June 1 at 6 PM EST]

[DS.]

That said, Mewtwo sort of digging themselves in and giving rationale for what was quite clearly an RVS vote feels super weird to me. Will check but I feel like they even said at some point all their early votes were random? Kind of weird to hop into defensive and act as if it was made with a pro-town reason in retrospect

Yeah so I mean I can't really see how this vibes with the entire rest of what you've been responding back and forth with me on, but I personally feel like this RVS vote is taking up too much of the thread so ima just dead this conversation now

 

[Athena_57]

You've got the timeline wrong

Hannah comes in in a fairly towny way
Samo votes for her
I call him out for it
You quote me calling him out as a bad example
Samo says his vote was RVS
Samo switches to voting me and attacks Hannah for voting me but gives caffeine a town read
I call him out bc caffeine has been defending me very strongly.
I respond to your quote which was calling him out for the original Hannah vote

I don't care about the rest of this timeline in the context of my question/comment. The reason I even pulled up a timeline was bc you were using a later post to justify your earlier actions to me.

I said I think you proclaiming to the thread sam should give a reasoning instead of asking him is a bad first reaction. Anything that happens after that doesn't impact this

 

[M2H]

I don't care about the rest of this timeline in the context of my question/comment. The reason I even pulled up a timeline was bc you were using a later post to justify your earlier actions to me.

I said I think you proclaiming to the thread sam should give a reasoning instead of asking him is a bad first reaction. Anything that happens after that doesn't impact this

??? the corrected timeline addresses this.

 

[M2H]

ok

dusk votes hannah with no justification -> I call him out -> you call me out for my post calling him out -> Samo says his vote was RVS and then pushes me/Hannah but ignores caffeine -> I call him out -> I respond to you calling me out

 

[Athena_57]

Dipping for a bit but to recap: jordan only solid townread

??? the corrected timeline addresses this.

No it doesn't. The only relevant part of your new timeline is the first 3 lines. To quote your timeline in italics
> Hannah comes in in a fairly towny way
Fair enough
> Samo votes for her
I agree this is a bad vote
> I call him out for it
The way you react here is bad imo
> All the other stuff
I don't care bc it doesnt impact your first reaction

 

[Athena_57]

Dipping for a bit but to recap: jordan only solid townread

Uh ignore this, was working on a shortlist before this happened. More reads coming in a bit maybe

 

[Athena_57]

Uh ignore this, was working on a shortlist before this happened. More reads coming in a bit maybe

I lied, I'm actually going to read page 10-12 first

 

[Clarinet]

Athena vs DS. feels like a convoluted mess. Let's not overcomplicate things, Athena thinks DS. has a horrible reasoning to vote for Mew while DS. feel entitled because he perceived Mew's vote as an attack on his talkative style

Hope I got that right!

 

[Samoyed]

I do agree with mewtwo that bluedoom has schooched so he probably rolled mafia

I like clarinet
Athena: word of advice - stop talking to DS unless you want a multi-day spat

 

[Tommy]

Not entirely sure why you've decided to audition for the role of mildly condescending tutorial. Also that bit in bold is weird. Mind clarifying why you don't want somebody you think is scum to be piled on?

Scumreading someone on an opening is the best you can go off in the opening of the game, but it is possible for town to have a scummy opening too. In my recent champs game I got fucked because less experienced town didn't know how to deal with pressure and kept imploding as they were continuously lynched. I was a lot of the driving force for said pressure.

My experience has taught me that, yes you can put people under pressure, yes you can make them implode. But that doesn't really benefit me unless I am certain Mewtwo is scum 100 percent, not just a read. There's a good chance he's scum here, but I want to give him a chance to fight back so it's not like my champs game where the second I scumread anyone they just get piled on and die automatically.

 

[Athena_57]

I want to give him a chance to fight back so it's not like my champs game where the second I scumread anyone they just get piled on and die automatically.

It's not your fault you have such incredible charisma man, dw

 

[Tommy]

Yeah so I mean I can't really see how this vibes with the entire rest of what you've been responding back and forth with me on, but I personally feel like this RVS vote is taking up too much of the thread so ima just dead this conversation now

Thank you

 

[Tommy]

ok

dusk votes hannah with no justification -> I call him out -> you call me out for my post calling him out -> Samo says his vote was RVS and then pushes me/Hannah but ignores caffeine -> I call him out -> I respond to you calling me out

Ok this whole timeline stuff is definitely dumb, I didn't even vote Hannah so you aren't even going back to see what the timeline was. You're just making it up??

 

[Tommy]

It's not your fault you have such incredible charisma man, dw

Awh stop it you

 

[DS.]

Athena vs DS. feels like a convoluted mess. Let's not overcomplicate things, Athena thinks DS. has a horrible reasoning to vote for Mew while DS. feel entitled because he perceived Mew's vote as an attack on his talkative style

Hope I got that right!

Nah, i just dont agree with them and felt like i made that clear.

 

[DS.]

I do agree with mewtwo that bluedoom has schooched so he probably rolled mafia

I like clarinet
Athena: word of advice - stop talking to DS unless you want a multi-day spat

And yet I was the one who called for the topic to be dropped.... lol

 

[Samoyed]

Real timeline

>y’all acted retarded

 

[M2H]

Ok this whole timeline stuff is definitely dumb, I didn't even vote Hannah so you aren't even going back to see what the timeline was. You're just making it up??

mb that was samos vote not yours. Idk why I put you there

 

[Samoyed]

Less a specific word, more a specific phrase. Appeal to Emotion or AtE as it's commonly called.

Had a read through things. DS vs Mewtwo doesn't really convince me that Mewtwo is the lynch. If anything it makes me see Mewtwo as town more. I don't see DS being scum either.
I have a gut feeling that Hal is town in this game. The way he's posting is similar to games I've played with him but there's less of it, which makes sense given that he's on holiday or something idk.
Nadroj also seems like town, just seems to have a good tone.
Dusk is giving me some weird vibes but this is also kinda how I remember what Town Dusk plays like. Really don't think it's enough to put him down as a Town Lean though.
I really thought Zest would post more. He may play Forum mafia differently to PS mafia though so idk.

So where does that bring us? Well unfortunately as I was typing up my list of reads I was assaulted by a kid with a bionic selfie stick arm who told me I was too old to understand. Not entirely sure what it was I was supposed to understand but my leg is bruised and I've decided to get more hip by doing stuff that's more with the times. One of the "hottest memes" going round the internet right now is that of the tier list. So, from now on I shall be providing my read lists in the form of a tier list so I don't get attacked by a mercenary from the youngest generation.

Tier List of Reads

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How did you make that tier list I want to make these

 

[Hannahh]

Hi sorry I went out with a friend last night and uh, only just woke up like an hour or two ago. Lots ot catch up on so bear with me while I quote my 8 "reply to thread" tabs

 

[Hannahh]

Ok I totally forgot what I was going to say to half of these god damn

Is this why you voted? Posts 45 and 46 would suggest that you voted Mewtwo on an OMGUS.


And until now you haven't really provided any reason as to why you voted for Mewtwo.
Mind clarifying your mindset here?

Ok before this it was DS voting Mewtwo and vice versa for the whole "lynching most active town" thing. I think I quoted this to say the reasoning for lynching Mewtwo was because Mewtwo wanted to lynch him for being super active, but now that I'm like 7 pages later in the thread this barely matters.

Hannah defending mewtwo here
Also saying “oh yeah I fucked up” and “I agree” and posturing and shit is bad

Admitting that you’ve done wrong is not towny and is entirely mafialike

Wait I totally thought it was a very townie thing to do but it might be because I'm also (now after catching up) townreading Mewtwo even more. Last game, I think M2H took a few days to be super townie but eventually everyone reached the same conclusion. I'm highkey expecting M2H to start looking more townie as the days go on. (I can't super read based off last game as I ghosted d2 but I remember not townreading M2H right away.)

Hannah why did you hard defend mewtwo

Answer for this is the same as above sorry^ Also I wouldn't say I hard defended, just thought waht M2H did was a townie thing to do. AGREEING that what happened was weird and scummy as opposed to constantly fighting for it to be seen as not scummy (if that even makes sense?)

oh darlin ive never been told that i lack meat

I SPIT OUT MY DRINK WHEN I READ THIS

I can’t do meta right now but if clarinet has played with Hannah before then he’s sus

If not then it’s OK

I want to say I've never played a real game with Clarinet fyi, maybe my one smog game from 3 years ago or my one SF game from 3 years ago or something? Name is familiar btu idk why

I agree that town can make mistakes btw, but this still doesn't feel towny to me. I don't want to get into a tunnel on Mewtwo this early though so I'm gonna leave him for now and come back later.

unvote

"Still doesn't feel townie" But you're _not_ lynching? Kinda weird, especially since Mewtwo said you always hard tunnel them. Is that the only reason you switched?

I'm amazed how he's certain of Hannah being town

Not sure how it's certain since he only said he thinks it's my townie self but we did play mafia for like 3 years together before I disappeared from mafia for at least 2-3 more years, I've played one game since I left ps so if he's meta reading me it's probably fairly accurate from his pov.

 

[Hannahh]

Sorry for long post, I had a lot of things I wanted to reply to.

 

[Samoyed]

ok you check out

 

[Samoyed]

Ok I totally forgot what I was going to say to half of these god damn



Ok before this it was DS voting Mewtwo and vice versa for the whole "lynching most active town" thing. I think I quoted this to say the reasoning for lynching Mewtwo was because Mewtwo wanted to lynch him for being super active, but now that I'm like 7 pages later in the thread this barely matters.



Wait I totally thought it was a very townie thing to do but it might be because I'm also (now after catching up) townreading Mewtwo even more. Last game, I think M2H took a few days to be super townie but eventually everyone reached the same conclusion. I'm highkey expecting M2H to start looking more townie as the days go on. (I can't super read based off last game as I ghosted d2 but I remember not townreading M2H right away.)




Answer for this is the same as above sorry^ Also I wouldn't say I hard defended, just thought waht M2H did was a townie thing to do. AGREEING that what happened was weird and scummy as opposed to constantly fighting for it to be seen as not scummy (if that even makes sense?)



I SPIT OUT MY DRINK WHEN I READ THIS



I want to say I've never played a real game with Clarinet fyi, maybe my one smog game from 3 years ago or my one SF game from 3 years ago or something? Name is familiar btu idk why



"Still doesn't feel townie" But you're _not_ lynching? Kinda weird, especially since Mewtwo said you always hard tunnel them. Is that the only reason you switched?



Not sure how it's certain since he only said he thinks it's my townie self but we did play mafia for like 3 years together before I disappeared from mafia for at least 2-3 more years, I've played one game since I left ps so if he's meta reading me it's probably fairly accurate from his pov.

This is a good post

 

[Athena_57]

Logic doesn't really flow here actually, reads as an excuse to flip a read and gesture M2H to have a shift into a playstyle you can call towny. Outlining your read flowchart doesnt seem to support any kind of towny purpose.

It was a pretty easy read, having played mafia on PS where most players have roughly the same meta. Unless you're telling me Hannahh has drastically changed her playstyle after literal years of hiatus, which I somehiw doubt by the way, her opening post was in line with her Town self.

Mostly out of curiosity, where does this leave you? This seams uh, fairly contradictory