NOC D6 Mafia Game Thread [Day 4; Deadline June 1 at 6 PM EST]

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samo and whydon go in neutral tbh.


not familiar with hal's scum game yet but he seems pretty similar to the other games I've played with him and he's been town. I think saying I'm town lean overall and proceeding to continue tunneling me all day is kind of lol tier and maybe a reason not to put his as a full town read but that's the sort of thing I expect from town!hal at this point.

hannah comes off tonally very pure in the posts that she has made and I don't want to say she's obvtown because she's been a little less active that I would like to say that but I think she's the towniest person in the room if I had to make a bet.

jordan comes off very different from how he played as mafia in role madness and eimm. Maybe those two consecutive losses made him reconsider his playstyle, but I don't think that this is scum!jordan atp. I think the clarinet vote is probably a natural progression from what he was posting about before, and doesn't seem to be preplanned or forced.

Athena feels pretty good here. She had a fairly good start and maintained that image in my mind I think.

Caffeine also feels pretty good. I angleshot him reading small street which makes me feel like he was genuinely trying to solve my slot. Ig its also possible that he is after town cred for opposing my lynch but I think that possibility is pretty small tbh.

whydon, zestoflife are null for now. hopefully zest's sub will be easier to read.

DF feels towny for the most part but I think his judgement is clouded on jordan/hannah. Tbh I just have a bad gut feeling about this slot. He tunneled me, unvoted me and kinda set up himself up to not be too suspected if/when I flip, and I think his current srs (me/jordan/hannah) are odd and only make sense if you think scum!me is going to be wide open about who his teammates are which is possible ig but not really when im the main lynch. I don't really want to give my validation to this slot but I also don't want to necessarily say to go after him bc tunneling is in his meta.
Samo vote and unvote was kind of strange ngl.

More aggressive samo could be either a scum playstyle change like I said was possible in the case of jordan or it could just be his town meta.

DS I don't like to make judgements about this slot just bc he's usually scummy even as town. I think he comes off a little self-conscious about his posting habits with his original vote on me and his current vote on athena feeling like a reaction to that. I think immediately going to setup spec rather than reads in that little convo is kind of an lol moment. ngl I don't like the Athena read and I think athena's entrance was pretty okay but maybe I'm giving her too much credit. This is a slot I wouldn't want to lynch necessarily, but I think I'd suggest paying a little more attention to it.

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tbh I like most of his content but I don't like his tone, he still comes off lurky in the way that he did in eimm and his long post today sounds like the early stuff he posted in eimm. I think trying to argue that my lynch is neccesary rather than arguing why I am scummy is bad and, like clarinet, comes off as not owning your reads.

I've said p much everything I want to say about Clarinet. Basically he has a fairly towny and pure tone but his actions don't make much sense from a town mindset as he's omgus'd me, jordan, and athena to some extent, he has qualified most of his reads (with the exception of jordan i think?) with statements that don't give him ownership over his reads.

atp my tentative solve for the game is either samo/clarinet/df or ds/df, clarinet, and bd tbh.
 
Yeah so ngl part of me wants to trust dusk/marth on jordan and mewtwo so my worldview is fucking mess rn but at this point I just feel the best about lynching Clarinet. I feel like me knowing them better and respecting them as players combined makes me naturally want to sheep their worldview and I'm not scumreading either but I'm just not seeing it

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- From what I've seen of Jordan's scumgame it's definitely evolved since last time I saw it but this still feels close enough to town to make me not want to lynch him
- I don't think scum!Marth opens with a DS vote. Unless we're looking at literal Marth/Clarinet/Mewtwo team there's at least one easy wagon available or he can go like jordan or whatever and take the easy way out. Also I kinda liked the vote without context.
- Mewtwo's blob on dusk as in "he's towny but idk about his reads rn" I'm melding enough with that I can forgive some disagreements I have with his other reads. If he has to go, he has to go and there are some good assocciatives but I really think Clarinet's a better lynch.
- I read the twin-game and clarinet is somewhat similar but also only made like 5 posts there so ehh. I really hated their last string of posts so staying here for now

Clarinet>Mewtwo>Jordan>Marth between these four
 
Oh also I had this thought that apart from me the mewtwo and clarinet wagoners were mutually exclusive (correct me if I'm wrong) which lowkey makes me think scum hasn't been meddling with both so there's likely scum between them
 
MewtwoHidden I feel like Clarinet is just as possible a lynch as Bluedoom atp so if you're self-pressing just go with the one you feel better about. Also this way you can't hide behind self-pres if we mislynch

tbh I like bluedoom better because I'm still not sure what to make of clarinet's over the top emotional outburst, but if I could get my lunch early and have access to the game close to lynch I'd go for either of them.

right now I think my vote stays put.
 
well, that's a lot of things you didn't like so I guess you can keep the vote :v4:
obv I'm not wanting to get lynched, but I can't force you to move

either you're volatile town second-guessing himself or scum that doesn't care :smogthink:
before EOD will offer final thoughts, can't waste so much time in defending

if anyone has questions, I'll gladly answer, but sincere seekers only :blobuwu:
KEEP ME ALIVE FOR TOWN'S SAKE!

Athena_57 this is what I mean. He had similar outbursts against you and jordan as well. I have no idea what to make of it but if its a scum gambit I think its a pretty weird one.

Part of me just wants to think he's immature town tbh.
 
I don't like bd's tone but I kind of like the content of the one large post he made.

I do like clarinet's tone but don't like the fact that he appeals to emotion, doesn't own his reads, bad reaction to Athena and jordan asking questions and voting him and don't really like the responses I've been given right now but they also are making me second guess myself.

Ugh this is scum Mewtwo I think
 
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samo and whydon go in neutral tbh.


not familiar with hal's scum game yet but he seems pretty similar to the other games I've played with him and he's been town. I think saying I'm town lean overall and proceeding to continue tunneling me all day is kind of lol tier and maybe a reason not to put his as a full town read but that's the sort of thing I expect from town!hal at this point.

hannah comes off tonally very pure in the posts that she has made and I don't want to say she's obvtown because she's been a little less active that I would like to say that but I think she's the towniest person in the room if I had to make a bet.

jordan comes off very different from how he played as mafia in role madness and eimm. Maybe those two consecutive losses made him reconsider his playstyle, but I don't think that this is scum!jordan atp. I think the clarinet vote is probably a natural progression from what he was posting about before, and doesn't seem to be preplanned or forced.

Athena feels pretty good here. She had a fairly good start and maintained that image in my mind I think.

Caffeine also feels pretty good. I angleshot him reading small street which makes me feel like he was genuinely trying to solve my slot. Ig its also possible that he is after town cred for opposing my lynch but I think that possibility is pretty small tbh.

whydon, zestoflife are null for now. hopefully zest's sub will be easier to read.

DF feels towny for the most part but I think his judgement is clouded on jordan/hannah. Tbh I just have a bad gut feeling about this slot. He tunneled me, unvoted me and kinda set up himself up to not be too suspected if/when I flip, and I think his current srs (me/jordan/hannah) are odd and only make sense if you think scum!me is going to be wide open about who his teammates are which is possible ig but not really when im the main lynch. I don't really want to give my validation to this slot but I also don't want to necessarily say to go after him bc tunneling is in his meta.
Samo vote and unvote was kind of strange ngl.

More aggressive samo could be either a scum playstyle change like I said was possible in the case of jordan or it could just be his town meta.

DS I don't like to make judgements about this slot just bc he's usually scummy even as town. I think he comes off a little self-conscious about his posting habits with his original vote on me and his current vote on athena feeling like a reaction to that. I think immediately going to setup spec rather than reads in that little convo is kind of an lol moment. ngl I don't like the Athena read and I think athena's entrance was pretty okay but maybe I'm giving her too much credit. This is a slot I wouldn't want to lynch necessarily, but I think I'd suggest paying a little more attention to it.

BD tbh I like most of his content but I don't like his tone, he still comes off lurky in the way that he did in eimm and his long post today sounds like the early stuff he posted in eimm. I think trying to argue that my lynch is neccesary rather than arguing why I am scummy is bad and, like clarinet, comes off as not owning your reads.

I've said p much everything I want to say about Clarinet. Basically he has a fairly towny and pure tone but his actions don't make much sense from a town mindset as he's omgus'd me, jordan, and athena to some extent, he has qualified most of his reads (with the exception of jordan i think?) with statements that don't give him ownership over his reads.

atp my tentative solve for the game is either samo/clarinet/df or ds/df, clarinet, and bd tbh.

This is nothing but meta/gut reads.

You don't want to lynch me but you have me as scum lean?
 
tbh this is pretty frustrating because I always try to give people the oppurtunity to defend themselves even when I feel really confident that they are scum and I don't think I'm being given the same due diligence here. If its partially a meta read can you find something to back it up. I can't properly defend myself if the only reasons that I am given are things I can't argue with.
 
tbh this is pretty frustrating because I always try to give people the oppurtunity to defend themselves even when I feel really confident that they are scum and I don't think I'm being given the same due diligence here. If its partially a meta read can you find something to back it up. I can't properly defend myself if the only reasons that I am given are things I can't argue with.

I could say the same thing about your read on me tbh.
 
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A good point has been raised about lynching Mewtwo to clear up a bunch of interactions they've had. While I can somewhat see these points, I don't agree with them to such an extent that I'd be willing to lynch one of the few people I think are likely to be town.

The bluedoom push is certainly interesting and has some merit, though I'd like to see how bluedoom acts within the following day before I pass my judgement on them. They're posting like town but only after somebody pointed out that they actively idled earlier and that this was supposed to be a scumtell of theirs. Neutral as a result.

Clarinet acted quite weird after being pushed and I would prefer to see them lynched. Their explanation for their three suspects doesn't convince me that his reads are genuine.
 
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