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Rolycoly2 might be the ugliest, shittiest Pokemon I have ever seen. That face... It looks like something an 8 year old might draw. Horrible horrible horrible. I CAN'T. And I have a very large tolerance for unfavorable designs.

I kinda like Rhyperior 2.0 though, except is that pile of coal sitting on its back or is it hollow and full of coal...?
 
Rolycoly2 might be the ugliest, shittiest Pokemon I have ever seen. That face... It looks like something an 8 year old might draw. Horrible horrible horrible. I CAN'T. And I have a very large tolerance for unfavorable designs.

I kinda like Rhyperior 2.0 though, except is that pile of coal sitting on its back or is it hollow and full of coal...?
How do those eyes work
 
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EDIT: Typings are mostly as expected.


Wooloo, Dubwool - Normal
Rookidee, Corvisquire - Flying (idk if he meant pure)
Corviknight - Steel/Flying
Yamper, Boltund - Electric
Rolycoly - Rock
Carkoal/Coalossal - Rock/Fire
Clobbopus/Grapploct - Fighting
Silicobra/Sandaconda- Ground
G-Ponyta - Psychic
G-Rapidash - Psychic/Fairy
Impidimp/Mogrem/Grimmsnarl - Dark/Fairy
Arrokuda/Barraskewda - Water

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The two fish were confirmed to be Water type. Also Orbeetle is one of the best designs this generation.

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The previous line was from the person who claimed no ice types so I'm removing it due to how suspicious it is.
 
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The two fish were confirmed to be Water type. Also Orbeetle is one of the best designs this generation.

The foxes are Ground type.

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Also we apparently won't like the new Eevee evolution.

That Galarian Stunfisk looks like a bear trap with a Pokeball in the middle... I assume when the PC goes to pick up an "item" on the ground, it snaps shut? Gruesome.
 
I can't believe you guys are being fooled by these rollycolly jokes.
It doesn't match the artstyle of the first and gigantamax stages at all.
 
I can't believe you guys are being fooled by these rollycolly jokes.
It doesn't match the artstyle of the first and gigantamax stages at all.
You're saying that as if Pokemon lines haven't been split between different creators before. Stuff like that has been a thing since Gen 1.
 
Wow, didn't notice that the new subforum was up until now. Thought we just hadn't had any new information and that's why the old thread was dead.

Gonna go through and give thoughts. If you have a propensity to hate new stuff, this post might make your brain hurt. Overall I'm very positive about these new designs -- overall being the key word, though.
Completely standard mid-stage evolution. Has the Monferno / Croconaw / Braixen vibes of "really this could have been a 2-stage line but we made it a starter line so we had to think of a teenage stage". Don't hate it, though.
And the payoff of the slightly awkward mid-stage is this beast. Grookey was my favourite from the start as soon as the rhythmic tapping of its stick was pointed out to me from the starter reveal trailer, and I had hoped it would evolve into a drummer. Its likely signature move (being a Grass-Type move that bypasses Substitute due to its being sound-based) will be really cool, and I think it just about makes up for it not being dual-typed, despite its design absolutely pointing to Grass/Rock or Grass/Normal as opposed to pure Grass-Type. I can also now create a full team of awesome manly monkeys: Rillaboom, Passimian, Primeape, Oranguru, Ambipom, and Simipour
The best design in the Sobble line. Sobble itself has Fennekin syndrome and looks a little too oversized-head-kawaii-hey-I'm-cute-5-year-old-girls-buy-my-plushie, but Sobble2 has more of a universal appeal. Only qualm I have with the design is it's not really a teenage stage, looking a little more like a tween stage. But I suppose that makes sense since where Grookey and Scorbunny would be like 10 years old, Sobble would be 4.
I hate it. Worst design of the generation. Every generation has a few stinkers, but it's unfortunate that this time around one of them ended up being a starter. Thoughts and prayers go out to the anime writers who are gonna have to keep Sobble interesting through the entire SwSh series without it evolving, because Sobble2 is such a clear mid-stage that it would feel weird for Sobble to evolve and not evolve again, and Sobble is gonna become much more popular than Intelleon.
Extremely meh. I literally don't have anything to say about this design because it's extremely nondescript. However, I have to say that if I was 7 playing Pokémon Colosseum and this thing was sent out, I would have thought it looked awesome. I guess my perspective on what I like about designs is different now, but I can see little boys liking this a lot, and Rillaboom is here for the grown men.
Overall I think this is a weak set of starters. I really like the Grookey line, and there's a good chance it would've ended up on my team whether it was a starter or just found in the wild. However, Intelleon is possibly the worst starter we've ever had, close to Primarina (sorry Water-Type fans, the last 2 gens have shafted you). Cinderace is in the middle of "not for me, but I can see why someone would like it". None of the final stages of the starters seem to appeal to girls much, which breaks tradition, but I think they may have wanted Intelleon to be the design that appeals to girls and they just failed. I sent these designs to a groupchat with some casual Pokémon fans in it -- most of them are girls and all of them said Intelleon is the worst.

I don't see why these are monotype. Grookey should be Grass/Rock, Intelleon should be Water/Ghost (we've had ghostly properties become full Ghost-Type attributes in the past such as with Jellicent), and Cinderace could be either Fire/Electric or Fire/Ground. All of these type combinations would be up until now rare combos and they all make more sense given the designs we have than them being monotype. It doesn't necessarily detract from the designs, but Grookey and Cinderace in particular look more like Grass/Rock and Fire/Electric types than they do monotype Pokémon.

In my ranking of starters, I would go 3, 4, 2, 8, 1, 7, 5, 6 -- 8 and 1 are perhaps interchangeable. Regardless, I would say this is the best set of starters since the "new" era of Pokémon beginning in gen 5, and that's exciting to me.
I will share more thoughts throughout the day but I'm going out now. My overall short thoughts are that many of the designs revealed officially are worse than many of the designs leaked. I want to know who decided Pokémon like Alcremie and Duraludon were better than the Ice-Type moth, Sandaconda, or Barraskewda. Also, Stunfisk-Galar should have been the first Galarian form revealed. It's the best use of the regional exclusive mechanic yet, because it's not just taking a base design and adapting it to a new environment -- it's an evolution of concept. A massive bear trap is way more effective at what Stunfisk does than just trapping it, and the PokéBall mouth is the most genius way Pokémon has used the RPG trope of mimics yet, as much as I also love Voltorb and Amoongus.

If you're seeing these new designs and they're making you not want to buy the game, I don't think there's anything that could convince you that these games are worth getting. It's nothing to do with these designs, because these designs are for the most part excellent, and a high for the series for at least the last couple of generations. And that's speaking as someone who is also a fan of most of the Gen VII designs. Don't let Dexgate detract from the assets we do have -- they're awesome.
 
Maybe it means we get to choose which one we want to revive? Who knows, sounds strange.

Also I like basically all of the designs in this new wave, Galarian Stunfisk is hilarious.
 
Orbeetle looks reallllly good . Gives off this evil superpowered villaint ype vibe. Still wish the rolycoly evos eyes stayed orange though. I see what they were going for but they do look kinda awkward. Glad we got our first ice bug and psychic bug mons though
 
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So we can revive two fossil Pokemon at once, though what happens if we use a matching pair? Will we still get two, will the resulting Fossil Pokemon get any benefits, both?

I was thinking there'd be two species of fossils and by combining a different top and bottom you could create hybrids.
 
intelleon and cinderace dont look like real pokemon to me. are either of them confirmed to be Really Real?
You underestimate the power of furries
Also Rillaboom has some good evidence behind its existence so it's likely that those two are real
 
You underestimate the power of furries
Also Rillaboom has some good evidence behind its existence so it's likely that those two are real
are there any pics of intelleon and cinderace in the same style as the rillaboom pic because in the OP the intelleon and cinderace seem to come from different sources than that, thats why im skeptical (+ theyre both ugly and like i said not very pokemon-like)
 
After 2 months of saying negative shit —because I didn't like almost anything tbh— this new leaked Pokémon are some fire. It's true the Rock/Fire one resembles Rhyperior but 1) I like Rhyperior 2) Rock/Fire is a combination that has my attention. Bug/Psychic and specially Bug/Ice are great combinations AND new, so getting both of them in the same gen is nice, very nice. Bug/Ice one can make for a counterpart to Volcarona with QD + Bug Buzz/Ice Beam. We don't know its ability. Arrokuda and Barraskewda rulez, Galarian Stunfisk is the best of the bunch (I love Stunfisk and was hopping for a Galarian Form/Evo), the new fossil mechanic is great, Galarian Ponyta evo gets the Fairy type as should be... All great.
 
Rock/Fire is a combination that has my attention.

It's kind of awful competitively though. It's 4x weak to both Water and Ground, two very common attacking types. I guess it's nice to take Fire-type attacks for Steam Engine though (and maybe certain Water-type attacks with a Passho berry, like Scald from Toxapex since it can't get burnt).

It's actually very Heatran-esque as it doesn't like to take Ground- or Water-type attacks but does appreciate getting hit by Fire-type moves.
 
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It's kind of awful competitively though. It's 4x weak to both Water and Ground, two very common attack types. I guess it's nice to take Fire-type attacks for Steam Engine though (and maybe certain Water-type attacks with a Passho berry, like Scald from Toxapex).
It will still most likely still have that steam engine ability, so if for some reason it survives a water attack, it will at least have much better speed. Still bound to be pretty underwhelming though, but who knows?
 
It's kind of awful competitively though. It's 4x weak to both Water and Ground, two very common attacking types. I guess it's nice to take Fire-type attacks for Steam Engine though (and maybe certain Water-type attacks with a Passho berry, like Scald from Toxapex since it can't get burnt).

It's actually very Heatran-esque as it doesn't like to take Ground- or Water-type attacks but does appreciate getting hit by Fire-type moves.

Yup, but I like it and it has some great offensive capabilities. I've never mind the x4 weakness to ground because Earth Power and mostly EQ are coverage moves which every team composition has at least 1/2 answers always in the form of grass resistance or flying/levitate. It's true Steam Engine activation should only be reached in a competitive format via Fire attacks, because it won't be able to survive Scald/EQ.
 
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