SS OU First team after long time - It's raining 'mons

gabe-mad-rider

gabe-mad-rider

Hi guys,
back here after loooong time, I decided to breed again and go into competitive with my Pokemon Sword.
In the past I reached +1850 in BW Smogon metagame with a sun team featuring GOD Jumpluff with Sword Dance and Chlorophyll and decided to do another weather team.
This time it is rain team (kinda of...)

IT'S RAINING 'MONS, ALLELUJA!


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Pelipper @ Damp Rock
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Hurricane
- U-turn
- Roost

Not too much to say, really.
Standard set for the rain setter of the team. U-turn to gain momentum, Scald for STAB, burn, and threat/makes pression on Excadrill. Hurricane because I miss flying moves but Knock Off could be a replace. Roost is for recovery due to the lack of leftovers in favor of damp rock to extend the rain time.

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Dracovish @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Strong Jaw
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fishious Rend
- Crunch
- Psychic Fangs
- Ice Fangs

First rain abuser and cleaner and revenge killer and whateveryouwillswitchiwillbiteyou.
Crunch is there for the water absorbers like Jellicent or Seismitoad. Ice Fangs in place of a dragon move is both for the dragons and to not be walled by fairies. Psychic Fangs for Toxapex. Jolly over Adamant to outspeed the most possible (maybe adamant? Did not see too much the speed calcs for the tier). The lack of power I do not have by nature is filled by rain by the way. If played carefully he can take the fire moves directed to Ferrothorn easily, force the switch and punish very hard with his jaws. Great typin, awful design, great 'mon at all.

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Barraskewda @ Choice Band
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Liquidation
- Close Combat
- Psychic Fangs
- Crunch

The 'mon where all is started. Wonderful design and so extreme, I decided to create a team where it could fit in. Glass cannon, as someone said, is the perfect description for this monster. Outstanding speed also with admant nature and very destructive power. Choice band is the natural item for it. Thanks to the dynamax mechanics, also if locked into a move, once dynamaxed, you can switch move to have perfect coverage. Dyna-fight to boost attack, dyna-water to summon rain, dyna-psychic to summon the field to avoid priority moves, very useful for a 'mon with so poor defence. It's the cleaner of my team or, if needed, it starts something Dragovish will finish with its bite.

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Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Power Whip
- Gyro Ball
- Knock Off
- Stealth Rock

Ferrothorn is a must in every a rain team, EVs on physical defence to wall better Gyarados or opponent Dracovish, both very scary. Power Whip is there to destroy Seismitoad so the sweep for Dracovish or Barraskewda can be on the way. Gyro Ball damages hard the fast 'mons. Stealth Rock because, you know... And not so sure about Knock Off, it can be very useful on the switch when you wall something but Toxic is an option too, like T.Wave... Not sure about this 4th move, an advice would be appreciated.

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Kommo-o @ Throat Spray
Ability: Soundproof
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Clanging Scales
- Flash Cannon
- Boomburst
- Clangorous Soul

After all those physical attacker I needed a special one and my choice went on Kommo-o.
All EVs in speed with timid nature for sure. Throat Spray is a fantastic item for this mon, and with Clangerous Soul it gives 2x boost in Sp. Atk and 1x boost in all the other stats at the cost of 33% of HP. Clanging Scales is natural STAB and very powerful while Boomburst is neutral big shoot. Both these two moves would benefit of the spray with continuous boosts. Aura Sphere could be a possibility instead of Boomburst. Flash Cannon is to deal with fairies. I do not run Flamethrower because under the rain, but it can be considered yet because I am walled by opponent Ferrothorn. I choose Soundproof to face Ditto without fear, taking an opportunity to setup with Clangerous Soul and become unstoppable (I hope).

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Excadrill @ Leftovers
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Rapid Spin
- Rock Slide

Last but not least, Excadrill is my spinner and Special wall, besides this is a role you do not usually see for him. EVs are distributed for its bulkness and leftovers for recover. Rapid Spin is mandatory gaining also a boost in speed in this metagame, Iron Head and Eq are STAB and, with the Mold Breaker, it punishes Rotom-W. Rock Slide is for additional coverage and OHKO on Centiskorch and Charizard.
It takes special attacks very well, unless the water ones, but for those it is covered by the other 'mons of the team.

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I know team is not perfect, any advice is appreciated if well motivated. Thanks in advance to all guys.
 
I'd recommend a Seismitoad to counter Electric types. It's an easy switch just to make their Electric move deal no damage. Here's a set for Seismitoad that you could use:

Seismitoad @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Earth Power
- Focus Blast
- Stealth Rock
 
Seismitoad could be a good option but for who? Kommo-o as special attacker? Than it would be the third mon weak to grass attack after Dracovish and Barraskewda... This could be a problem... But maybe I will give it a try. Thanks for the advice!
 
gabe-mad-rider said:
Seismitoad could be a good option but for who? Kommo-o as special attacker? Than it would be the third mon weak to grass attack after Dracovish and Barraskewda... This could be a problem... But maybe I will give it a try. Thanks for the advice!
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Dracovish is not weak to grass lol, its water dragon, only weak to fairies and dragons
 
SwordIsBored said:
I'd recommend a Seismitoad to counter Electric types. It's an easy switch just to make their Electric move deal no damage. Here's a set for Seismitoad that you could use:

Seismitoad @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Earth Power
- Focus Blast
- Stealth Rock
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I think you should really specify which pokemon you should switch to Seismitoad.
I also think water absorb is better for a fish with a rend
 
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Remi the mimikyu user said:
I think you should really specify which pokemon you should switch to Seismitoad.
I also think water absorb is better for a fish with a rend
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He has a pelliper. Swift Swim would be loads better.
Speaking of which are you doing a Rain team or just a normal team? Ok you’re doing a rain team.

Edit: another change: switch Hurricane on Pelliper to Air Slash or Defog (thanks Lennart ! Yeah Pelliper lost Defog). Pelliper’s goal isn’t to attack, it is to set rain and annoy the opponent. So it will be better to make opponents crazy with Air Slash flinching (if you’re running Air Slash I also suggest running max speed to take advantage of flinch) or Defog to get rid of hazards.
 
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After few battles, Kommo-o is to be removed from the team, lol... I misunderstood the item, its effect is for one time only but, a part from this, few times it has been useful... I need a grass attack, so thought about Gengar special attacker with energy ball and G-max form to trap that damn cancer Corsola... Some other tries will arrive.
 
corsola can be countered by dracovish (becareful of willowisp though) because of rend.
I want u to remove exca, but I just dont know which mon should I switch to, still testing it out...
gengar is a good choice though
 
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Exca works perfectly for my gameplay... I really cannot think this team without it... Why do you want to remove it?
Busy these days, no time to try Gengar.
I switched Dracovish from jolly to adamant, outstanding power... In mid-game he can sweep the entire opponent team.
 
gabe-mad-rider said:
After few battles, Kommo-o is to be removed from the team, lol... I misunderstood the item, its effect is for one time only but, a part from this, few times it has been useful... I need a grass attack, so thought about Gengar special attacker with energy ball and G-max form to trap that damn cancer Corsola... Some other tries will arrive.
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Who have you replaced Kommo-o with in the meantime. I like your team I have had a bit of success but discovered the effect of Throat Spray the hard way myself, haha.
 
NOTsamhyde said:
Who have you replaced Kommo-o with in the meantime. I like your team I have had a bit of success but discovered the effect of Throat Spray the hard way myself, haha.
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I also discovered it too late hahah.

I tried some games with Gengar and I like it. For now I'm playing without Energy Ball but with Shadow Ball, Focus Blast and Sludge Wave. Surprisingly, Cursed Body has become useful in 2-3 times giving me the momentum to setup.
 
かたわれ時 said:
He has a pelliper. Swift Swim would be loads better.
Speaking of which are you doing a Rain team or just a normal team?

Edit: another change: switch Hurricane on Pelliper to Air Slash or Defog. Pelliper’s goal isn’t to attack, it is to set rain and annoy the opponent. So it will be better to make opponents crazy with Air Slash flinching (if you’re running Air Slash I also suggest running max speed to take advantage of flinch) or Defog to get rid of hazards.
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Pelipper lost Defog
 
Also no, don't run Air Slash with Pelipper? Hurricane is objectively better, even if your only goal is to "annoy" the enemy team (you're definitely getting more value from confusing your opponent than from slow flinches).

I'd personally run offensive swift swim Seismitoad over Gengar, mainly because you already have a grass move in Power Whip (if your problem comes from opposing toads) but you don't have SRs. If you like Gengar that much though, I guess you can keep it and put the rocks on Excadrill.

EDIT: mb didn't see you have sr on your Ferro
 
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I tried G-Max Gengar without Energy Ball, but with Nasty Plot + Sludge Wave + Shadow Ball + Focus Blast and it is working nice.
I really do not want to remove Barraskewda, it is the mon for which I decided to run "rainy". I am not playing too much because I am busy these days, but the team seems working nice.
Air Slash over Hurricane... Pelipper is not so quick and its bulkiness sometimes helps, I can try but not so sure.

Two minor changes I am thinking about are:
1) A dragon move to hit other Dracovish with my Dracovish.
2) Thunder Wave to Ferrothorn, could be very useful due I always endure 2 ice hits from Darmanitan and others.

Sometime I miss some thunder move, just one time I was totally walled by a Bulk Up Corviknight... Still thinking about it
 
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