I know you're not getting triggered by people hating in this team, but when I watched the replays, it was obvious that you made plays that requires though and prediction. Great job! Imma use this in my next YouTube video, will rate the team and of course credit it lol. Will let you know when it goes up!
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SS OU Paraflinch Squad | Peak 1963 | 4 OU | feat. Cinccino, sandaconda, galvantula and friends
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Exactly. People get so up in arms and OTT about hax teams because either they think they'll win without having to work (wrong) or they think they're unfair (also wrong). I really don't understand the controversy. Once you roughly know the team, as someone else says, you just win most of the time as the team is one-dimensional. The reason it wins is largely people not knowing what it does at team preview, not really the hax itself. And the hax can not come up when you need it and cost you games.
Thanks Bro, people think you can get to the top 4 without skill, which is not true, even when u are playing a "low skill" team u have to make plays to beat good players like omari p storm zone etc
Alright, got done with the vid, and can give you some notes that hopefully help out! The team is amazing, but it does require skill and suh. I also struggled with lead matchp sometimes, but that might just be my own inexperience. But one weakness of this team in general is fast hard hitting pokemon, so pokemon like dracovish and hydregon give the team a couple of problems. Corviknight can also be an issue, especially if you lose galvantula. I also found it a little hard to prevent rocks from staying up, which led to sashes being broken sometimes. glad to be able to use the team!
I've never have problems with them, dracovish is a set Up fodder for cloyster and hydreigon loses 1 v 1 to togge, once paralyzed he is not a problem, and as I said, corviknight loses vs everything in this team once It gets paralyzed, the real threat to this team is rotom, Heat specially, but ofc if u use someone else's team It won't work as good as It did for the builder.
Thanks for the help and I'll watch that video for sure :)
And after having seen the video, I confirmed that It was the way u play It what made u feel like pkm like vish were a problem. u have only 2 leads, sandaconda vs excadrill and galvantula againts anything else, they + excadrill should try to paralyze everything and keep the field safe and clear for the 3 flinchers, u never lead With Cinccino , cloyster toge or even excadrill, u just wait your 3 supports to prepare the field for the sweep and then u go for literally a 1 vs 6 , I have a lot of 1 v 6 replays, i think I posted some of them, watch them carefully, also, the way u used togekiss was often wrong, for example, vs hydreigon, u always try to paralyze him, and then paraflinch him to death, with full hp u never lose a 1 v 1 to hydreigon. There are more things to improve but it's all about practic, once you understand the team correctly u can easily peak the top ( loved how u called this "the best team" hehehe thanks Bro)
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Yea I thought so! I knew I definitely struggled with lead matchup, but that helps out alot! Thanks for the tip! Also, I am always open to the idea that I am making misplays, I know I am nowhere near the best lol.
Also, I did find out in later games(after the video) that dracovish allowed me to setup easily with cloyster, but then came the problem of scarf dracovish, who outspeeds and does massive damage with fishous rend, though I think my problem then was not spinning away the webs properly. I figured out a couple things and ways to play with the team after the video, but your response explanation was great and very helpful, thanks!
Called it the best, honestly because it is the best team i have tested so far! It seems to have answers for everything, so long as you play correctly! :)
As I said it's all about practise, thanks for the feedback :D
Disregard all the hate bro, you're a legend. Gratz on top 4!
Hahahaha more like "meme"
Why not a SD Mold Breaker Exca? It helps a lot to beat rotoms and ferro
With Mold Breaker you can also change Sandaconda' s Sand Spit ability to shed skin (Sandstorm brokes Galvantula's Sash)
Another thing seems not so useful is Tail Slap on Cinccino. I'd try another Thunder Wave or U - Turn for momentum.
Excuse me if I said something wrong, I'm not so experienced.
Wonderful team
With Mold Breaker you can also change Sandaconda' s Sand Spit ability to shed skin (Sandstorm brokes Galvantula's Sash)
Another thing seems not so useful is Tail Slap on Cinccino. I'd try another Thunder Wave or U - Turn for momentum.
Excuse me if I said something wrong, I'm not so experienced.
Wonderful team
Easy explanation, sandaconda + excadrill help to keep the field clear, i need drill to be the fastest, but at the same time dont want him to be scarf. Tail slap is cincinno's stab, so it's neccesary. Trust me, this team is the result of more than 50 battles with It or smth like that, if i'm running something weird is because It just works, somehow, but It works
I think this team may have contributed to the King’s Rock rants in the OU thread. :D
Great team! I hate fighting against it, haha.
I’m curious what manner of TR gave you trouble. Hatterene because it’s immune to Glare and TWave?
Great team! I hate fighting against it, haha.
I’m curious what manner of TR gave you trouble. Hatterene because it’s immune to Glare and TWave?
@pavijo27 on showdown uses a weird TR with arctovish, jellicent and other weird stuff.it won 3 of 5 vs this team, I'd like pavijo27 to do a rmt, cuz his tr is working so well at 1900+
How is dracovish "set-up fodder" for cloyster exactly? I see a scarf earthquake doing way more than enough to kill it after a shell smash.
First, dracovish atacks, It doenst kill, then u set Up, and if u can, sweep
This is your daily reminder that Dracovish gets EdgeQuake. Because it can and that's clearly balanced.
252+ Atk Choice Band Dracovish Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cloyster: 168-198 (69.7 - 82.1%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Dracovish Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cloyster on a critical hit: 250-296 (103.7 - 122.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO (Stone Edge does have high crit rate)
Clearly setup fodder. Also if you choose to go Jolly, Adamant Vish actually underspeeds you and hits you after the Shell Smash for a OHKO.
Yeah no Vish actually use EdgeQuake, I just find it hilarious how many "checks" it rips a hole in. Oh and:
252+ Atk Choice Band Strong Jaw Dracovish Fishious Rend (170 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cloyster: 159-187 (65.9 - 77.5%) -- 25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Strong Jaw Dracovish Psychic Fangs vs. -1 0 HP / 0 Def Cloyster: 158-187 (65.5 - 77.5%) -- 25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
So Banded Vish smack you hard whichever nature. Best case scenario:
252 Atk Strong Jaw Dracovish Fishious Rend (170 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cloyster: 96-114 (39.8 - 47.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
So no switching in on even Jolly Scarf Vish if rocks are up. While the best play against Vish on HO is to sac something rather than try and switch in on it, I would hardly call it setup fodder. It'll do in an emergency if you know it's scarf I guess.
U set cloyster into fishious rend, not into Stone Edge. In my experience, there was not a single time that dracovish beat me using this team
well duh, a paralysed Vish is pretty useless, and your team spams para. I would not go as far as to call it "setup fodder", as even worst case Cloyster is smacked into priority range. But like I said it'll do if it's all you got. Just pray it's not the one cosmic brain with EdgeQuake Sub.
Well, dont call It set Up fodder then, anyway webs + para is more than enough to stop the fish so don't worry, he won't be a problem, atleast for me, cuz I know how to play the team perfectly and what to do in any moment, but some people are having troubles with vish, so if u want u can change something like Cinccino for idk what hahaha
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I made this team and went something like 20-2 in Sw/Sh online battles with only just picking it up. Seriously nasty. Thanks for sharing!