Project Break My Team [Cycle #24] [SS]

Do you like the idea of challenges for BMT?

  • Yes

    Votes: 32 76.2%
  • No

    Votes: 5 11.9%
  • Could be good with adjustments (lmk on cord)

    Votes: 5 11.9%

  • Total voters
    42

Cantius

I COULD BE BANNED!
Cloyster @ Rindo Berry
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 232 HP / 252 Atk / 24 SpA
Adamant Nature
- Icicle Spear
- Shell Smash
- Protect
- Hydro Pump

0 SpA Shaymin Seed Flare vs. 232 HP / 0 SpD Rindo Berry Cloyster: 241-285 (80.6 - 95.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
shell smash then kill
+2 252+ Atk Cloyster Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Shaymin: 730-870 (180.6 - 215.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

24- SpA Cloyster Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 36 SpD Solid Rock Rhyperior: 435-516 (100.2 - 118.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
protect to avoid custap then icicle spear to do the 1% of damage left

252+ Atk Dragonite Superpower vs. 232 HP / 0 Def Cloyster: 176-208 (58.8 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Cloyster Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 72 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 390-460 (114.3 - 134.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

EDIT: problems fixed!
 
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Bruno Mars (Sigilyph) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 8 HP / 72 Def / 252 SpA / 176 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Ice Beam
- Protect
- Icy Wind

252+ Atk Dragonite Outrage vs. 8 HP / 72 Def Sigilyph: 243-286 (84.6 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

you don't need to invest for rhyperior. Any flying type with sub breaks it, as long as it can hit hard enough. not even sure u need protect unless you choke with sub

Magic Guard prevents leech seed from working, icy wind lets you avoid any shenanigans with Shaymin gaining hp w/ protect and dodging a 2hko with air slash.

you don't rlly need the spdef but w/ever
 
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IBM

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Gog (Murkrow) @ Eviolite
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Feather Dance
- Substitute
- Snarl
- Roost

Shaymin:
Can’t break sub, just pp stall
0 SpA Shaymin Seed Flare vs. 248 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Murkrow: 55-66 (16.9 - 20.3%) -- possible 5HKO

Rhyperior:
Sub whenever it’s an option and roost to get more subs, it can’t hit with anything other than rock wrecker which gives you a free turn

Dragonite:
Feather dance and roost
-2 252+ Atk Dragonite Outrage vs. 248 HP / 8+ Def Eviolite Murkrow: 132-156 (40.7 - 48.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
-4 252+ Atk Dragonite Outrage vs. 248 HP / 8+ Def Eviolite Murkrow: 88-105 (27.1 - 32.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
 

pqs

Banned deucer.
hello

due to the slow movement of bmt overall, and barely anybody posting anymore after the first week, i'd you all to vote upon if bmt should have one or two weeks during a cycle. scroll up for poll. if you have a different idea for how it could go, say it here. i will end this poll manually at roughly the same time that this bmt cycle is over, though the date for when it automatically ends is off.
 
Making this set actually helped me learn how hidden power IV's are calculated, which is pretty cool.

POTUS (Abomasnow) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Impish Nature
IVs: 30 Atk / 0 SpA
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Avalanche
- Substitute


Rhyperior: Sub, hp grass, sub, hp grass. I don't know whether the sim has implemented this or not (I'm guessing it has) but HP Grass should be 59 BP here. If it is incorrectly at 70 then there is a slim chance that hp grass + hail can knock rhyperior into custap range but that is not with correct mechanics so I think it's fair to ignore that. Calcs:
0- SpA Abomasnow Hidden Power Grass vs. 252 HP / 36 SpD Solid Rock Rhyperior: 210-252 (48.3 - 58%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after hail damage
220+ Atk Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Abomasnow: 80-95 (20.8 - 24.7%) -- guaranteed 5HKO (max roll is 95, I have 96hp subs)

Shaymin: Just spam avalanche and there's nothing it can do. Hail is up forever so it's never gaining HP and can't stall you out of avalanches and if it wants to go for seed flare shenanigans then it gets 2hkoed.
0 Atk Abomasnow Avalanche vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Shaymin: 120-144 (29.7 - 35.6%) -- 25.8% chance to 3HKO after hail damage and Leftovers recovery (60 BP)
0 Atk Abomasnow Avalanche vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Shaymin: 240-284 (59.4 - 70.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after hail damage and Leftovers recovery (120 BP)
4 SpA Shaymin Seed Flare vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Abomasnow: 74-87 (19.2 - 22.6%) -- possible 5HKO

Dragonite: Click avalanche and win. Dragonite has to make contact if it wants to 2hko (obama lives fire punch) and helmet will take it out of multiscale. earthquake, predictably, does pitiful damage.
252+ Atk Dragonite Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Abomasnow: 320-380 (83.3 - 98.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Abomasnow: 53-63 (13.8 - 16.4%) -- possible 7HKO
0 Atk Abomasnow Avalanche vs. 72 HP / 0 Def Dragonite: 508-600 (148.9 - 175.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO (against dragonite w/ no multiscale)
 
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Here's another ice type to beat the team that is mono-weak to ice. I think this one's a little less fun but at least it beats rhyperior without sub which is lame.

Cloyster @ Rindo Berry
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 56 SpA / 100 SpD
Brave Nature
- Icicle Spear
- Surf
- Ice Shard

Rhyperior: 56 SpA guarantees an ohko on Rhyperior with surf. If they endure, ice shard takes them out.
56 SpA Cloyster Surf vs. 252 HP / 36 SpD Solid Rock Rhyperior: 435-516 (100.2 - 118.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
and even with a brave nature Cloyster outspeeds Rhyperior, with 158 compared to its 116 speed.

Shaymin: Cloyster's SpDef is so atrocious that even through rindo berry seed flare was still a guaranteed ohko and it needed to have significant spdef investment. Icicle spear isn't guaranteed to kill here so it needs to have ice shard to win this matchup.
4 SpA Shaymin Seed Flare vs. 0 HP / 100 SpD Rindo Berry Cloyster: 204-240 (84.6 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Cloyster Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Shaymin: 370-450 (91.5 - 111.3%) -- approx. 37.5% chance to OHKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Cloyster Ice Shard vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Shaymin: 116-140 (28.7 - 34.6%) -- 99.5% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

Dragonite:
0- SpA Dragonite Thunder vs. 0 HP / 100 SpD Cloyster: 242-286 (100.4 - 118.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
But in all seriousness click icicle spear one time. It massacres Dragonite and Cloyster's fantastic physical bulk means it can't be ohkod by this set.
Cantius already did Rindo Cloyster
 
Ok I am back and stronger than ever and this time I checked the thread

Aerodactyl @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 16 Def / 140 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 Def
- Substitute
- Protect
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Taunt

Rhyperior: Can hit you 4 times. Sub/Protect until they're out and spam hp ice.
220+ Atk Rhyperior Rock Wrecker vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Aerodactyl: 792-932 (263.1 - 309.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO (unimportant)
0 SpA Aerodactyl Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 36 SpD Solid Rock Rhyperior: 76-91 (17.5 - 20.9%) -- possible 5HKO (also doesn't really matter)

Shaymin: Can hit you 4 times. Sub/protect/taunt until they're out and spam hp ice.

Dragonite: the 16 defense evs ensure that fire punch cannot break aero's sub, so fire punch is a guaranteed loss (it was anyway but I was worried about struggle damage after stalling for 12 turns). Outrage and superpower fail to their lack of pp and hp ice does around 40% so there's no possible way to pull some hitting self in confusion on protect turns to save pp shenanigans with outrage.

In conclusion: why is dragonite specifically set to underspeed tyranitar? what's that benchmark for? Scarf swampert?
 

pqs

Banned deucer.
The sixth BMT cycle is over, with Nalei's Articuno post winning a spot in the hall of fame!

This next team, in DPP, by Yami. This cycle will last until April 13th.

Bronzong @ Choice Band
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Trick
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Zen Headbutt

Dragonite @ Yache Berry
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Superpower
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage

Shaymin @ Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 Def
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Seed Flare

Enjoy!

tagging Rosa for the Kyubits

In other news, the poll is over, and BMT cycles have now been shortened to just one week per cycle. Hope you all enjoy :).
 
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IBM

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Aerodactyl @ Power Herb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Protect
- Stone Edge
- Sky Attack

:Bronzong:
Protect and sub spam until struggle

:Shaymin:
Outspeeds by one, Sky attack

252+ Atk Aerodactyl Sky Attack vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Shaymin: 432-510 (126.3 - 149.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

:Dragonite:
Stone edge

252+ Atk Aerodactyl Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragonite: 324-384 (100.3 - 118.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

pqs maybe don’t have two weeks in a row with Shaymin and dnite on the same team
 

Sanshokuinsumireko

I got the baddest bitches in anime
ummmm k.
Yanmega @ Choice Specs
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 216 SpA / 60 SpD / 232 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 Spe
- Bug Buzz
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Air Slash

vs dnite you outspeed and two shot plus speed boost means it can't dd

216+ SpA Choice Specs Yanmega Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 180-213 (55.7 - 65.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Dragonite Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Yanmega: 250-295 (79.8 - 94.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

vs shaymin you survive hp ice and one shot back

252+ SpA Life Orb Shaymin Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 60 SpD Yanmega: 264-312 (84.3 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
216+ SpA Choice Specs Yanmega Bug Buzz vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Shaymin: 434-512 (126.9 - 149.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

vs bronzong you live and two shot
252+ Atk Choice Band Bronzong Gyro Ball (112 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Yanmega: 264-312 (84.3 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
216+ SpA Choice Specs Yanmega Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Bronzong: 198-234 (58.5 - 69.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 

Sanshokuinsumireko

I got the baddest bitches in anime
Charizard @ Expert Belt
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 64 Def / 148 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Flare Blitz
- Fire Punch

vs shaymin it outspeeds and one shots

vs dnite you dd into outrage while outrage doesn't kill zard

252+ Atk Dragonite Outrage vs. 0 HP / 64 Def Charizard: 250-295 (84.1 - 99.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252 Atk Expert Belt Charizard Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragonite: 367-432 (113.6 - 133.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

vs bronzong you fire punch twice and kill
252 Atk Expert Belt Charizard Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Bronzong: 194-230 (57.3 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Bronzong Zen Headbutt vs. 0 HP / 64 Def Charizard: 189-223 (63.6 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
Here's Arcanine:


Arcanine
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 72 Def / 224 SpA / 188 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 Def
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Flamethrower

Bronzong: Flamethrower twice. You're guaranteed to live the eq and flamethrower 2hkos.
224 SpA Arcanine Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Bronzong: 212-252 (62.7 - 74.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Bronzong Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 68 Def Arcanine: 204-242 (63.5 - 75.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Dragonite: HP ice twice. You're guaranteed to live eq (even after a dd) and you 2hko. Unfortunately arcanine doesn't get outrage this gen so it needs spatk investment for hp ice to 2hko. No swag for me I suppose.
224 SpA Arcanine Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Yache Berry Dragonite: 108-128 (33.4 - 39.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO (min roll 108 and then 216 for a total of 324 damage, dragonite has 323 hp)
-1 252+ Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 68 Def Arcanine: 180-214 (56 - 66.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 68 Def Arcanine: 272-320 (84.7 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Shaymin: Flamethrower twice. You live any attack, outspeed, and easily 2hko even after leech recovery.
224 SpA Arcanine Flamethrower vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Shaymin: 240-284 (70.1 - 83%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Shaymin Seed Flare vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Arcanine: 140-165 (43.6 - 51.4%) -- 8.2% chance to 2HKO (I'm actually just one ev shy of being able to guarantee surviving a crit here, I think, although Bronzong and dnite will always have the crit chance too so whatever.)

EDIT: I calced this in gen 8 by accident but all that should mean is that it needs even less spatk to beat dragonite because hp ice will be stronger.
 
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Jabiru

formerly ThatCabbageGuy
Damn I was a bit late in and three of my thoughts for counters were already taken but I present:

:Scizor:
Scizor @ Choice Specs
Ability: Technician
EVs: 192 HP / 232 Atk / 84 SpA
Brave Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Bug Bite
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Counter

Vs Dnite: 2hko's with hp ice whilst Dnite can't 2hko

84 SpA Choice Specs Scizor Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Yache Berry Dragonite: 108-128 (33.4 - 39.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
84 SpA Choice Specs Scizor Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 216-256 (66.8 - 79.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Dragonite Superpower vs. 192 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 146-174 (44.3 - 52.8%) -- 23.8% chance to 2HKO
-1 252+ Atk Dragonite Superpower vs. 192 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 98-116 (29.7 - 35.2%) -- 15.5% chance to 3HKO
252+ Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 192 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 122-144 (37 - 43.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Vs Bronzong: Spam counter

252+ Atk Choice Band Bronzong Earthquake vs. 192 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 138-164 (41.9 - 49.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Vs Shaymin:

Even Maki's Fox couldn't throw this matchup
 

Jabiru

formerly ThatCabbageGuy
#2
:leafeon:
Leafeon @ Insect Plate
Ability: Leaf Guard
EVs: 176 HP / 144 Atk / 188 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Charm
- X-Scissor
- Substitute
- Synthesis

Vs Dnite: Charm spam and chip

Vs Bronzong: Sub, then charm spam and cjip

Vs Shaymin: Outspeed and 2hko
144 Atk Insect Plate Leafeon X-Scissor vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Shaymin: 172-204 (50.2 - 59.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Shaymin Hidden Power Ice vs. 176 HP / 0 SpD Leafeon: 260-306 (82.5 - 97.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 

Jabiru

formerly ThatCabbageGuy
#3
:Typhlosion:
Typhlosion @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 8 HP / 152 Def / 252 SpA / 96 Spe
Serious Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 Def
- Eruption
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Vs Dnite: Note that Dnite still underspeeds even after a dragon dance
252 SpA Typhlosion Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Yache Berry Dragonite: 136-160 (42.1 - 49.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Typhlosion Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 272-320 (84.2 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 8 HP / 152 Def Typhlosion: 252-298 (84.2 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Vs Bronzong:
252 SpA Typhlosion Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Bronzong: 380-450 (112.4 - 133.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Vs Shaymin:
252 SpA Typhlosion Eruption (150 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Shaymin: 434-512 (126.9 - 149.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
Skarmory @ Choice Band
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird

why use more than one move?
Bronzong: Factoring brave bird recoil damage taken is roughly similar (like exactly the same) on both sides, but skarm outspeeds and wins.
252+ Atk Choice Band Skarmory Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Bronzong: 93-110 (27.5 - 32.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO (9.1 - 10.8% recoil damage)
252+ Atk Choice Band Bronzong Zen Headbutt vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Skarmory: 62-73 (18.5 - 21.8%) -- possible 5HKO
Skarm kills on turn 4 and can't take more than 329 damage in the first three turns. It has 334 hp so it wins guaranteed if there aren't any crits.

Dragonite: 2hko and don't get 2hkod back. Superpower max roll + Brave Bird max roll recoil + -1 Superpower could be a kill (I don't really care to do all that addition) but it doesn't matter because if they superpower t1 then brave bird ohkos

Shaymin: Brave Bird ohkos so it can't leech stall. The only thing it can do is sub to chip skarm into hp ice crit range.
252+ Atk Choice Band Skarmory Brave Bird vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Shaymin: 426-504 (124.5 - 147.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Shaymin Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Skarmory: 122-144 (36.5 - 43.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 

Jabiru

formerly ThatCabbageGuy
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Aerodactyl @ Power Herb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Protect
- Stone Edge
- Sky Attack

:Bronzong:
Protect and sub spam until struggle

:Shaymin:
Outspeeds by one, Sky attack

252+ Atk Aerodactyl Sky Attack vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Shaymin: 432-510 (126.3 - 149.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

:Dragonite:
Stone edge

252+ Atk Aerodactyl Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragonite: 324-384 (100.3 - 118.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

pqs maybe don’t have two weeks in a row with Shaymin and dnite on the same team
Bronzong zen headbutt spam wins
24 pp -> 12 with pressure
You get 4 subs and 5 protects, even if you double protect or zen headbutt misses it can kill with struggle.
Skarmory @ Choice Band
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird

why use more than one move?
Bronzong: Factoring brave bird recoil damage taken is roughly similar (like exactly the same) on both sides, but skarm outspeeds and wins.
252+ Atk Choice Band Skarmory Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Bronzong: 93-110 (27.5 - 32.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO (9.1 - 10.8% recoil damage)
252+ Atk Choice Band Bronzong Zen Headbutt vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Skarmory: 62-73 (18.5 - 21.8%) -- possible 5HKO
Skarm kills on turn 4 and can't take more than 329 damage in the first three turns. It has 334 hp so it wins guaranteed if there aren't any crits.

Dragonite: 2hko and don't get 2hkod back. Superpower max roll + Brave Bird max roll recoil + -1 Superpower could be a kill (I don't really care to do all that addition) but it doesn't matter because if they superpower t1 then brave bird ohkos

Shaymin: Brave Bird ohkos so it can't leech stall. The only thing it can do is sub to chip skarm into hp ice crit range.
252+ Atk Choice Band Skarmory Brave Bird vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Shaymin: 426-504 (124.5 - 147.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Shaymin Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Skarmory: 122-144 (36.5 - 43.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Ties exist in DPP
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Superpower vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Skarmory: 164-194 (49.1 - 58%) -- 97.7% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Skarmory Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragonite: 244-288 (75.5 - 89.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Similar issue in Bronzong matchup but more calcs and I'm too lazy when the dnite tie already exists.
 

Jabiru

formerly ThatCabbageGuy

Camerupt @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 80 HP / 176 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Eruption
- HP Ice

• Bronzong -> cb is little expected in zong. His best move vs Camerupt is EQ but I am faster with or without Scarf.

176 SpA Camerupt Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Bronzong: 348-410 (102.9 - 121.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

• Nite-> I made a specific cast to better fit Dragonite. As the previous case, your best answer is EQ
252+ Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 80 HP / 0 Def Solid Rock Camerupt: 246-291 (81.7 - 96.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

while I'm faster with HP Ice
Yache Berry
176 SpA Camerupt Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Yache Berry Dragonite: 124-146 (38.3 - 45.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Rip Yache
176 SpA Camerupt Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 248-292 (76.7 - 90.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

• Shaymin -> click Eruption
176 SpA Camerupt Eruption (150 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Shaymin: 396-468 (115.7 - 136.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Unfortunately your Camerupt doesn't beat Dragonite.
Dragonite can just outrage T1 which kills the majority of the time, and even if it didn't you also have to consider the fact that Dnite can use ddance turn 1 to outspeed and ohko T2.
252+ Atk Dragonite Outrage vs. 80 HP / 0 Def Camerupt: 295-348 (98 - 115.6%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
 
Unfortunately your Camerupt doesn't beat Dragonite.
Dragonite can just outrage T1 which kills the majority of the time, and even if it didn't you also have to consider the fact that Dnite can use ddance turn 1 to outspeed and ohko T2.
252+ Atk Dragonite Outrage vs. 80 HP / 0 Def Camerupt: 295-348 (98 - 115.6%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
thanks man I don't understand how I didn't notice better I'm asleep. Well in any case I change the evs cast to 176 def and done.
 

Jabiru

formerly ThatCabbageGuy
:bw/dustox:
TOX TOX TOX
Dustox @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Shield Dust
EVs: 172 HP / 252 Def / 84 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Iron Defense
- Substitute
- Roost
- Sludge Bomb

:bronzong: - dustox outspeeds, tanks, and recovers. if you know bronzong is using trick turn one, use substitute, but if you know it's using zen headbutt (most powerful move), spam iron defense + roost until at +6 and then pp stall it to death.

252+ Atk Bronzong Zen Headbutt vs. +2 252 HP / 252+ Def Dustox: 102-120 (31.4 - 37%) -- 70.7% chance to 3HKO
don't even try against the TOX.

:dragonite: - hahahahahahahhahahahahahha just tank like wtf and iron defense too easy

252+ Atk Dragonite Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dustox: 199-235 (61.4 - 72.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Dragonite Outrage vs. +2 252 HP / 252+ Def Dustox: 100-118 (30.8 - 36.4%) -- 58.5% chance to 3HKO
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if they try and dd turn one, you can 5hko with sludge bomb while they try and set up, and set up on your own with sub and confuse hax them if nothing else

:shaymin: - shaymin cannot touch you, you just sludge bomb / maybe roost it to death
252+ SpA Shaymin Seed Flare vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Dustox: 49-58 (16.1 - 19%) -- possible 6HKO

TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX TOX
Nalei
Correct me if I'm wrong and Ive overlooked something pretty basic but I believe DNite wins.

Dnite ddances and you ID t1-3
Dnite ddances and you sludge bomb t4-6

Now at the start of T7, both are at +6 and Dnite is 2 hits away from dying
+6 252+ Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. +6 172 HP / 252+ Def Dustox: 110-130 (36.1 - 42.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+6 252+ Atk Dragonite Outrage vs. +6 172 HP / 252+ Def Dustox: 199-235 (65.4 - 77.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Dnite's EQ into outrage kills so you cant rely on roost spam into confusion damage, and seeing as eq breaks sub, even doing that earlier doesn't really help you. Best case scenario I can see is using roost to stall out the earthquake turns before subbing twice, hoping for a two turn outrage and first turn confusion.
 

Jabiru

formerly ThatCabbageGuy
thanks man I don't understand how I didn't notice better I'm asleep. Well in any case I change the evs cast to 176 def and done.
Whilst that stops you from dying t1 to outrage, Dragonite can still use ddance t1 which allows it to outspeed t2 and then kill:
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Outrage vs. 0 HP / 176 Def Camerupt: 354-417 (125.9 - 148.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

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