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I'm still inclined to think Haruno is town. In my experience in OC games town Haruno was super active, just an overall hindrance to the town because he would counterclaim other villagers
 
I forgot he was even playing

so in the lynch pool
thunder subbed in for fen pretty recently.

just thought I'd reiterate this after haruno shaded tbz earlier. I won't say tbz's activity is super high by any stretch, but tbz and fen are different people.

I think fen's d1 was kinda scummy though based off of fen's last 2 mafia games. but I do want to give tbz at least 24 hours to do his thing, if he has a thing.
 
thunder subbed in for fen pretty recently.

just thought I'd reiterate this after haruno shaded tbz earlier. I won't say tbz's activity is super high by any stretch, but tbz and fen are different people.

I think fen's d1 was kinda scummy though based off of fen's last 2 mafia games. but I do want to give tbz at least 24 hours to do his thing, if he has a thing.
my lynch pool rn is basically everyone I don't think is town, but yeah I forgot that slot was playing entirely because Fenrir had exactly one post
 
also to make sure this counts

##Vote zaroco

my read is basically the same as schia's, when I was looking back through the thread zaroco is basically just asking people questions but not following up or really doing anything with it. This is really basic scummy behavior and he's been kind of flying under the radar as a result
 
also to make sure this counts

##Vote zaroco

my read is basically the same as schia's, when I was looking back through the thread zaroco is basically just asking people questions but not following up or really doing anything with it. This is really basic scummy behavior and he's been kind of flying under the radar as a result

IRL I prefer to ask questions about others rather than talk about myself, I also am very indecisive.

How this translates mafia is that I am wary of misreads, and would like more info before I commit to a vote (D1 being rvs).

Another thing, to address the "basic scummy behaviour", I don't really know how townies/mafia typically play so I'm not following any particular meta. But if that is a pattern, then I concede that it's a valid point that I haven't been following up with my questions
 
IRL I prefer to ask questions about others rather than talk about myself, I also am very indecisive.

How this translates mafia is that I am wary of misreads, and would like more info before I commit to a vote (D1 being rvs).

Another thing, to address the "basic scummy behaviour", I don't really know how townies/mafia typically play so I'm not following any particular meta. But if that is a pattern, then I concede that it's a valid point that I haven't been following up with my questions

An example of my hesitancy and desire to ask questions, when the wagon was forming on Caffe by M2H, Haruno and mega I didn't want to vote until we heard from them (#719).

If m2H is accusing of Caffe being scum I wanted to know what would lead Caffe to bus Clar. His response regarding the rolecop slip in #768 makes sense, so townleaning Caffe.
 
To add to that I wasn't convinced by M2H's arguments in #690 for Caffe and #730 for the hammer situation.

But I was more interested in how quickly Haruno agrees with M2H for Caffe's vote, then suspecting him (if I'm reading his comments right #761, #741) but keeping his Caffe vote.

If I'm going to make a read, I'm scumleaning M2H for leading the wagon after scum gets lynched with a justification I'm not convinced by

I'm also slightly leaning scum for Haruno due to what I find to be inconsistency above (this makes more sense to me if they're both scum since Haruno is keeping his vote to get rid of Caffe).
 
To add to that I wasn't convinced by M2H's arguments in #690 for Caffe and #730 for the hammer situation.

But I was more interested in how quickly Haruno agrees with M2H for Caffe's vote, then suspecting him (if I'm reading his comments right #761, #741) but keeping his Caffe vote.

If I'm going to make a read, I'm scumleaning M2H for leading the wagon after scum gets lynched with a justification I'm not convinced by

I'm also slightly leaning scum for Haruno due to what I find to be inconsistency above (this makes more sense to me if they're both scum since Haruno is keeping his vote to get rid of Caffe).
the way this man just manifested how i feel about both haruno and m2h I-
 
what would lead Caffe to bus Clar.

Probably the fact that Clarinet was already dying when Caffeine started pushing him. It isn't as if Clarinet was in a good position already. That point seems to make the idea of Caffeine voting him and pushing him there seem a lot worse. I felt that the Clarinet had TMI, but Caffeine seemed to have a little extra TMI added (he seemed to know/guess clarinet was rolecop). Let's say I'm wrong about that, though, and Caffeine just deduced correctly that Clarinet was referring to himself. Even then I don't think that necessarily reflects poorly on me. I think you have to decide not only who is correct, but who is genuinely trying in order to read people :shrug:

I think the end of day hammer thing is a stupid thing to harp on but I don't really blame you for that, more Panic Station, really.

If I were scum, it seems that I would think that hammering Clarinet a few hours early isn't beneficial as opposed to just letting him die. I really don't know it what world I would be coordinating with Clarinet in scum chat for him to hammer himself right after I vote him. It seems that all that would do to me is make me more visible and make me subject to criticism the next day. That doesn't seem beneficial for me in that scenario. Tbh in that situation I had no clue what the votecount was, and then bam he hammered himself. Unfortunate but it was a really good play from Clarinet as it seems that I am still commenting on it now.

I tend to agree with you regarding Haruno, and hence Haruno is in my POE atm. I think my vote is better placed on Caffeine right now though. I think there is a small potential for a Haruno/Caffeine world here, as they both seemed to follow onto me. Haruno may have expected my Caff wagon to pick up more steam than it seems to have, and wanted to get on early. It seemed that they may have been looking for a way off but couldn't shift off yet as that might hurt their position.

Given you scum read me and Haruno, I take it you must have a pretty strong town read on Panic Station yeah?
 
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