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Alright both PR claims just put me out of whack, particularly my scumread on M2H, here's where I'm at with that

M2H said:
If I were scum, it seems that I would think that hammering Clarinet a few hours early isn't beneficial as opposed to just letting him die. I really don't know it what world I would be coordinating with Clarinet in scum chat for him to hammer himself right after I vote him. It seems that all that would do to me is make me more visible and make me subject to criticism the next day. That doesn't seem beneficial for me in that scenario.
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I can get on board this, although hammering ends discussion, it brings a lot of attention to M2H when there's only a couple hours left so I don't see the benefit > cost here.

If we assume M2H is BG, his vote D1 could also make sense after Clar's half-hearted fake BG claim

Clarinet said:
Nah, I'm just playing.

I will no longer claim to save
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If you think Caffe is scum, what does he get out of getting you to claim in #1155, go for a N2 kill if you have PR?
 
Zaroco said:
If you think Caffe is scum, what does he get out of getting you to claim in #1155, go for a N2 kill if you have PR?
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It def might allow Caff to nk me if I reveal that I'm a PR without as much scrutiny, but I don't really think he expected me to have a PR.

it might go something like this for him?

m2h refuses to claim --> caff has a reason to attack me.
m2h claims vt --> cast suspicion on the claim, try to get m2h lynched.
m2h claims pr --> cast suspicion, maybe accept the claim, either way killing m2h doesn't seem as incriminating anymore.
 
seems like the play that one does reflexively when one has gotten under one's skin; "ah you are gonna push me!! well you better claim now!"
 
What are your thoughts on the current game state M2H seeing as how you're one of the few people I'd trust to be town. Who are your scumreads at the moment? And how do you feel about Caffeine randomly going after you out of nowhere and forcing you to claim?
 
I expect close to nothing except some form of village sabotage from tballz/caffeine/heal regardless of their actual alignment so it seems pointless working with them. Best to form a village core rn of most likely confirmed town so we can POE and solve this game at least.
 
Haruno said:
What are your thoughts on the current game state M2H seeing as how you're one of the few people I'd trust to be town. Who are your scumreads at the moment? And how do you feel about Caffeine randomly going after you out of nowhere and forcing you to claim?
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I'll be honest with you I still want to lynch CaffeineBoost but that might just be me :blobshrug:

HnD is probably town and just having a bit of a lapse of judgement. I'm willing to stand by that read.

I pretty well agree with you that Zaroco has seemed relatively pure today as a whole. Comfy with him being town for now.

I'll be completely honest I've been feeling paranoid about Panic Station's slot as yes, he did push Clarinet hard, but it also seems that he has been heavily leveraging that for "clout" amount the town. I might just be salty about the way he approached communicating with me earlier but something about the way he has approached my slot in particular just irks me. It might wear off a little later.

I still don't really remember anything of note from Schia/Dogop.

I likely tbz tonally on the entrance but willing to relook at that slot in the future.
 
I'm honestly considering the idea that the scum is in that pool of people that aren't very active. It just feels like that kind of game to me.
 
M2H said:
I'll be honest with you I still want to lynch CaffeineBoost but that might just be me :blobshrug:

HnD is probably town and just having a bit of a lapse of judgement. I'm willing to stand by that read.

I pretty well agree with you that Zaroco has seemed relatively pure today as a whole. Comfy with him being town for now.

I'll be completely honest I've been feeling paranoid about Panic Station's slot as yes, he did push Clarinet hard, but it also seems that he has been heavily leveraging that for "clout" amount the town. I might just be salty about the way he approached communicating with me earlier but something about the way he has approached my slot in particular just irks me. It might wear off a little later.

I still don't really remember anything of note from Schia/Dogop.

I likely tbz tonally on the entrance but willing to relook at that slot in the future.
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I'm down to go for the reverse wagon on Caffeine. Nothing screams scum such as, "Yo guy that is not involved in discussion! CLAIM NOW! Also, I'm going to immediately try and lynch town PR." Pretty sure Pblade/lrr would be down with it.

We can push HnD for a future day then, but he's still top of the list of scum for me.

Panic Station is fine by virtue of him not doing anything last night at least since there is 0 chance that there are mafia goons seeing as how shitty Clarinet's role is if the amount of VT's are to believed. I still stand by Clarinet calling out caffeine/panic as a way to build town cred down the line by calling out a scum buddy. Caffeine definitely hasn't done anything to try and

schia/dogop are idle slots afaik.

tbz hasn't been on since I made my claim so a lot of that will depend on how he acts afterwards. It's almost certain that HnD decided to just try and push that easy wagon off ignorant town at least.
 
Lrr reverse wagon on caffeine y/y? Thoughts on caffeine's amazing play of getting m2h to claim and then immediately proceeding to say, "both PR claims are sus, imma lynch them both!"
 
Haruno said:
you as well Zaroco
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Hard for me cause both my previous scumleans are now claiming PR.

I'm not vibing HnD responses since I last posted but I don't see the scum vote as clear as you. What seals the deals on him for you

Reevaluating my suspicions on HnD, Caffe rn

not many thoughts on Lrr, Schia, TBZ, mega atm.

Townie vibes from Panic, dopog (but I mean this has backfired before -secret hitler-) in their posts.
 
Tone feels artificial and OMGUS defenses are my favorite. Also anyone going, "fuck town PR, I'm following the easy wagon! Lynch me if you can, village is too pocketed/stupid to lynch me" is a huge pro. He feels like trying to be US but poor at it? Doesn't even have the good/notable player clout going for him so yeah.
 
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