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NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5
- Thread starter Tommy
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zach entered the game saying he couldn’t find his role pm and that it was given to someone else
Idk, my read on Clouds has changed before I've read his reads list, I'll let you know.
I did barely skim the reads list and the ayia scumread made me think about realiti's angle from earlier and I've just realised how terrible it is because the DM was supposedly sent to an aiya instead of ayia. Basically the angle means nothing, you could easily send the scum chat to the wrong person. I withdraw my compliment to realiti for that.
..still feels like a stretch considering it's his role pm as a whole that he's looking for, not his role/alignment? do role pms get posted in scum chats as opposed to individually when players are mafia-aligned?
My role leads me to think this is indeed what happened.
Apparently I have never been scum in a Dusk hosted game before so I can't answer this for certain, but I've been scum in games where the scum chat and the role PM's are all the same post, that is a PM sent to all scum that acts as scum chat with all the role PM's already in it.
Realiti's angle was that if they couldn't find their PM, then ayia was probably town. At first I thought this would be because Dusk probably wouldn't fuck up both the scum chat and role PM recipients. If they're the same PM though then this becomes less likely.
based on small street - tommy sends out individual role pms and a group role pm and also dms them on discord
Are you asking if I think Clouds' content so far this game is scummy considering this is his first mafia game? (Also, is this his first mafia game I don't feel like looking that up)
few things rly confuse me abt sam. Not even in like a scummy way, just by expectations
1. putting stock into preflips isnt the greatest and not what I expected of his slot entering this game in general esp after reading his last game (but he used meta for a lot of his reads then so ig)
2. the irony of 1 is i buy what he believes what he’s saying with NOC as a format in general
3. He is literally voting Texas who… yes!
can someone who’s played with sam/knows him better fact check me if he’s this like, dispatched with this format as a whole
1. putting stock into preflips isnt the greatest and not what I expected of his slot entering this game in general esp after reading his last game (but he used meta for a lot of his reads then so ig)
2. the irony of 1 is i buy what he believes what he’s saying with NOC as a format in general
3. He is literally voting Texas who… yes!
can someone who’s played with sam/knows him better fact check me if he’s this like, dispatched with this format as a whole
do some of his posts read as coached
alright let's get cracking, this is not going to be the way I'd normally like to do it cause train wifi makes page loading considerably less snappy but we'll make do, getting this notepad style as i read
priority 1: dafuq is up with haruno
- early day 1 setup spec, disinterest, sheeping hal, calling out 'names'
- hal's angleshoot happens, sheeps the vote
- hydro flips, maintains setup spec focus, notes DLE as suspect
- moves directly into self role discussion and desire to self-clear
- believes mason buddy is 3p/scum - why?
- contradicted with believing they can confirm him as town - if 3p/scum wouldnt suspicion on them be equally sus on him?
- partially resolved in 1252 with assessment of town core dichotomy
- valid point in 1254 that haruno would not be scum with a partner and both know of each others role, but assumes truthful and does not preclude scum/3p looking for town partner - i.e. celevers (?) lone wolf recruiter idea
- still focused on night actions 1425
- 1513 leaning village mason buddies
- theory: partial mason incentivizes pubclaiming but if action is repeatable what's the use after mason buddy is found? perhaps intended for use with enhanced results stealer HH? results redirecter in play? no traditional investigatives claimed supports, but contingent on redirecter presence
- key post 1746
- rest arsonist discussion flares up
this is....much less clear than i'd hoped. Haruno the majority of your posts have been setup spec, I can see why this has been your focus given you claimed so quickly but you havent paired this with scumhunting. what reads do you have on people beyond 'active/inactive'? how do you intend to help solve the game? you've mentioned town coring yourself with your mason buddy but i'm not seeing how you can both believe that and think they might be a 3p without even considering the possibility that you might be the 3p diverting the attention away from that possibility. especially considering your focus on setup spec over hunting, you havent shown a concern for that at all.
(insert 15 minutes of thinking)
i kept trying to say more about not being sure about the possibility of you being a 3p but the more i thought about it the more it just didnt make sense for you to be a 3p claiming to try and towncore yourself with your mason to distance yourself from 3p suspicion, too many moving parts and motivations dont line up, the more i think about it the more consistent your actions seem the more i understand your mindset, the more i think you're just town
priority 1: dafuq is up with haruno
- early day 1 setup spec, disinterest, sheeping hal, calling out 'names'
- hal's angleshoot happens, sheeps the vote
- hydro flips, maintains setup spec focus, notes DLE as suspect
- moves directly into self role discussion and desire to self-clear
- believes mason buddy is 3p/scum - why?
- contradicted with believing they can confirm him as town - if 3p/scum wouldnt suspicion on them be equally sus on him?
- partially resolved in 1252 with assessment of town core dichotomy
- valid point in 1254 that haruno would not be scum with a partner and both know of each others role, but assumes truthful and does not preclude scum/3p looking for town partner - i.e. celevers (?) lone wolf recruiter idea
- still focused on night actions 1425
- 1513 leaning village mason buddies
- theory: partial mason incentivizes pubclaiming but if action is repeatable what's the use after mason buddy is found? perhaps intended for use with enhanced results stealer HH? results redirecter in play? no traditional investigatives claimed supports, but contingent on redirecter presence
- key post 1746
- rest arsonist discussion flares up
this is....much less clear than i'd hoped. Haruno the majority of your posts have been setup spec, I can see why this has been your focus given you claimed so quickly but you havent paired this with scumhunting. what reads do you have on people beyond 'active/inactive'? how do you intend to help solve the game? you've mentioned town coring yourself with your mason buddy but i'm not seeing how you can both believe that and think they might be a 3p without even considering the possibility that you might be the 3p diverting the attention away from that possibility. especially considering your focus on setup spec over hunting, you havent shown a concern for that at all.
(insert 15 minutes of thinking)
i kept trying to say more about not being sure about the possibility of you being a 3p but the more i thought about it the more it just didnt make sense for you to be a 3p claiming to try and towncore yourself with your mason to distance yourself from 3p suspicion, too many moving parts and motivations dont line up, the more i think about it the more consistent your actions seem the more i understand your mindset, the more i think you're just town
Honestly just scanned back through his posts and I don't think so outside of him saying openwolfing at some point which I don't think was a term used in-thread before then (but powerwolfing had been)
anything current i should address before i go thread diving?
You’ve been tracked to Hal, what’s your defense
Nah go thread diving IMO, it's the most useful thing considering there's been minimal content from you so far (and this thread is kinda dead bc of Sificon so)
1...Nf6
So you think YOU'RE the lost wolf?
lmao ok got it ig
maybe im harping on the fact that he literally froze on me for 10 minutes when i asked him for any scumreads, but i feel like new players are generally less confident about what they speak and more infused with the game